De'Aaron Fox Rumors Suggest a Possible Trade to The Spurs

Originally Posted by scott

Speaking of Lonnie Walker... I've got some really Hard To Swallow Pills for everyone...

Christ. Hurry up and trade this asshole to Sacramento before they see this chart tbh

Originally Posted by BatManu20

Christ. Hurry up and trade this asshole to Sacramento before they see this chart tbh

Someone hack into the Kings' admin panel and add all these analytics websites to the blocked list

I could see something like Vassell + Keldon + 2 Picks (CHI + Swap) for Fox and that’s about what I would do. Definitely and argument to pay Fox the Vassell/Keldon money so no issue that having it in Fox vs those two split, but then comes down to the picks.

I'd trade for Fox, just depends on the package. Ideally we get him in the offseason when he only has 1 year left on his deal. I don't think the price would be that high, since he only has a year left and only teams he'd resign with would trade for him.

I definitely wouldn't trade Castle, since he's on a rookie deal and the same age as Wemby. If there's anybody on our roster considering his running mate for his whole career it would be Steph. I'm pretty confident that his shot will come around.

Regarding Fox, he's shooting 33% on 6 attempts, but shoots 38% when wide open. He plays for the Kings with Sabonis and DeRozan in the line up. Their spacing is terrible. One would think he should be able to up his percentages by 2-3% playing on a team with better spacing while also not being the 1st, but rather the 2nd option. Not to mention that he's been accused of coasting cause he's playing for a dumpster franchise.

The Mike Brown thing is overblown. Brown was publicly criticizing Fox in mutliple interviews, something Pop never really did with players. He also had some kind of beef with Sabonis, with Sabonis consistently refuting arguments that Brown made in interviews. Add him wanting to bring DeRozan off the bench and doing dumb like switching every pick & roll against the Spurs and there you go.

Yeah, I'm ready. Fox has something to prove. The Kings are a loser franchise and they are blaming him for how terrible they are.

It's time.

the people who want to hoard picks fascinate me. dudes a legit all star, STUD and people are like "eh, dont want to give up TOO much for him" lol just insanity

Originally Posted by T Park

the people who want to hoard picks fascinate me. dudes a legit all star, STUD and people are like "eh, dont want to give up TOO much for him" lol just insanity

They're still stuck in 00s mindset and think we can pull some more Tonys and Manus out of our asses with late picks.

Originally Posted by LeBowen

They're still stuck in 00s mindset and think we can pull some more Tonys and Manus out of our asses with late picks.

Yea, those days are gone.

I'm ready to trade for Fox so long as it doesn't involve Castle. I just don't think they'll even consider it without Castle unfortunately. This team desperately needs a reliable go-to scorer in the back court though, especially at the end of games.

Originally Posted by RC_Drunkford

The Mike Brown thing is overblown. Brown was publicly criticizing Fox in mutliple interviews, something Pop never really did with players. He also had some kind of beef with Sabonis, with Sabonis consistently refuting arguments that Brown made in interviews. Add him wanting to bring DeRozan off the bench and doing dumb like switching every pick & roll against the Spurs and there you go.

Brown was on the hot seat and you can tell he was deflecting blame from desperation.

If the Spurs continue to be in the top 10 out West, I would say be ready for standing pat. Would be nice to find some bench depth cause Keldon, Tre, and Collins are not them.

Kings about to win their 3rd game in a row since firing Mike Brown. Currently up 7 over Memphis with 2:50 min left in the 4th.

Standing pat might be out of their hands if Paul decides he wants another try with a supposed contender. Lakers now have enough room under the apron and the need for an extra ball handler.

Originally Posted by objective

Standing pat might be out of their hands if Paul decides he wants another try with a supposed contender. Lakers now have enough room under the apron and the need for an extra ball handler.

All reports from Paul's camp indicates he loves Spurs basketball.

Kings starting to win games, and if that continues I don't see any way they trade Fox or that Fox asks for a trade. It's in Fox's best interest to win games with SAC and try to make All NBA so he can get that SuperMax.

Yea this upcoming stretch will be telling. It's pretty brutal. 8 of their next 12 games are:

@ Celtics
@ Bucks
@ Nuggets
@ Knicks
@ OKC
@ Minny

And then home games vs:

Rockets
Warriors

The other 4 easier teams sprinkled in there are the:

@ Bulls
vs. Wizards
@ Nets
@ Sixers

This will be a tough test for them. Will be interesting to see what their record looks like after this month. This stretch may very well decide De'Aaron Fox's future in Sacramento.

The reality is there are trades for all stars that work and that doesn't. FO and coaches go through it in more detail than eyetesters and highlight watchers and it still fails. You can't force trades that has no guarantee of working.

Originally Posted by objective

Standing pat might be out of their hands if Paul decides he wants another try with a supposed contender. Lakers now have enough room under the apron and the need for an extra ball handler.

Lakers aren’t a contender for anything other than a play in spot, with or without CP3.

Originally Posted by scott

Kings starting to win games, and if that continues I don't see any way they trade Fox or that Fox asks for a trade. It's in Fox's best interest to win games with SAC and try to make All NBA so he can get that SuperMax.

This season? Sure. But if he doesn’t make All NBA, I’m guessing the lesser bag might have him looking to greener pastures.

Originally Posted by exstatic

This season? Sure. But if he doesn’t make All NBA, I’m guessing the lesser bag might have him looking to greener pastures.

I agree with you. There are really only 3 outcomes that occupy probably 90% of the probability:

1. Kings start winning games between now and the deadline, in which case Fox stays with SAC and makes All-NBA and signs a SuperMax extension
2. Kings start winning games between now and the deadline, in which case Fox stays with SAC and does not make All-NBA and gets traded this summer
3. Kings don't start winning games between now and the deadline, in which case SAC pulls the ripcord Fox gets traded before the deadline

The other possibilities are that he gets traded in the summer in Scenario 3 instead of at the deadline, and that he doesn't make All-NBA but extends with SAC this summer (probably the least likely scenario of them all)

The Fox trade may have all been a mirage. A ploy to exert leverage for their FO to fire Brown. Fire him or trade me, that kind of thing. It's hard to know from the outside.

Originally Posted by The Truth #6

The Fox trade may have all been a mirage. A ploy to exert leverage for their FO to fire Brown. Fire him or trade me, that kind of thing. It's hard to know from the outside.

I think it all goes hand-in-hand with what I mentioned above. For Fox to stay in SAC, one of two things has to happen: 1) he has to make AllNBA and get that supermax or 2) SAC has to be winning enough for him to feel like they can compete. And of course, #1 requires #2. SAC was spiraling and Brown had (reportedly) lost the locker room, so he had to go if #2 was going to even be a remote possibility.

Originally Posted by The Truth #6

The Fox trade may have all been a mirage. A ploy to exert leverage for their FO to fire Brown. Fire him or trade me, that kind of thing. It's hard to know from the outside.

Hmm... not the sort of ploy Klutch is known for. Wait...

Originally Posted by T Park

the people who want to hoard picks fascinate me. dudes a legit all star, STUD and people are like "eh, dont want to give up TOO much for him" lol just insanity

Especially when you can likely get Fox and still have a ton of remaining picks, as I'm guessing his trade value will be one of Vassell/Sochan/Castle plus two unprotected firsts plus salary filler plus ripping up the 2031 SAC swap. Let's say the two picks are the 2025 ATL and 2026 Spurs with ATL swap. You still have the 2027 ATL, a 2028 swap with Boston, a best of between SAS/DAL/MIN for 2030, and an unprotected Minnesota 20131 in the war chest.