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OKC getting Cam would be absolutely nasty lol
OKC getting Cam would be absolutely nasty lol
I dont know, id like to seem them pick up more size. The wing is not their issue (if they even have one).
If you’re getting Cam Johnson (and assuming Champ, Sochan and Barnes aren’t going anywhere), what do you need Keldon for? This summer, Collins as an expiring likely becomes a more valuable trade chip than Keldon, who’s a net negative with two years left.
Also, unless we are getting someone like Fox, I don't think we should be so eager to send Tre Jones off. He's actually been pretty good this year (and the team overall has been better with him on the court - check the historical lineup analysis thread). The team isn't really deploying Castle as a PG, but rather as a secondary ball handling SG with another PG on the court, and I wouldn't be so quick to assume the Spurs view Castle as a PG now, or maybe even in the future.
Do we really only need one shooter? Or would it be better to have Cam AND Champagne? Cam is on a really good deal, 2 years and $42M after this season.
Size? Disagree….they are a large team with Jalen, Chet, Hartenstein etc..
Keldon is a legit rotation player whether you like him or not. He’s got more value in a trade for SA next year than Collins and can still help now if you are making a deal to help the team win now.
Agreed. With OKC being reported poking around dont think SA has a great shot here, but let’s say theoretically SA could get him. Being able to move Barnes to the bench with Keldon/Tre/Castle keeps that unit very, very strong and replacing non-rotation players (Collins/Bran) money with Cam and getting a starting group of CP / Dev / Cam / Sochan / Wemby is very nice.
Tre is a good player, but if hes the difference in getting a deal done or not? You move on. But yeah, I would prefer to keep him if at all possible for this season.
Keldon just has more value than Collins. It's not so much about fit as it is having more assets to make another trade.
How much does Ben Simmons have left on his contract? Could we dump some of our undesirables for him straight up? It's not a move for us to get better per se, but I'd love to move on from some of our contracts. Just spit balling.
We have too much fake depth that isn't helping us.
To answer your question: Simmons has 40.3M this year and that’s it. He’s expiring. I doubt BKY takes on long term deal (like Collins or whatever) without draft compensation for doing so
Simmons is expiring this year. I imagine the Nets would want compensation back to absorb long term salary
If you're getting Cam, I think you probably need to look at moving Barnes or Sochan (Barnes make the most sense age and timeline wise, whereas fit-wise it probably makes more sense to have a Champ/Barnes/Cam wing rotation on offense, though we'd really miss Sochan's defense toughness and rebounding).
Not quite sure he does.
Keldon ranks 51st percentile in CraftedOPM, but 4th percentile in CraftedDPM and 11th percentile overall. He's earned the elusive "Replacement Level" and "Sieve" badges. Of course, CPM is just one metric, but this evaluation is echoed by DARKO DPM (among SFs), where he's bottom quartile in DPM, around 45th percentile in O-DPM and bottom 10% in D-DPM. His DPM peaked in 2022-23 (not surprisingly) and it's been a rapid bobsled ride down the mountain since.
Collins, on the other hand, is only 29th percentile in CraftedOPM, but is 62nd percentile in CraftedDPM and 37th percentile overall. However, Zach looks a lot worse on DARKO among Cs. Both these guys are pretty bad, but there scarcity that comes into play with Zach and his contract has more value once it becomes an expiring (which Keldon's will eventually become a year later, so it's not a huge delta - but enough when we're talking about marginal, overpaid players).
Now, if there was a gun to my head and I was forced to choose which one I'd want to insert into the game for 15 minutes on any given night... I'm taking Keldon 9 times out of 10... but that's not necessarily the same as gauging trade value. Neither of these guys are positive assets at this stage.
^^^ Love that headline. The Spurs COULD have interest... they could also not! It's like a Schrödinger's Trade Scenario!
I wonder how CP3 and Butlerr would work? If Paul is the team leader right now, would there be a lot of drama/conflict between the two?
Amico is garbage, it's just that people confuse him with reliable Amick.
Complete non-story.
We'll We'll agree to disagree...Not quite sure he does.
Keldon ranks 51st percentile in CraftedOPM, but 4th percentile in CraftedDPM and 11th percentile overall. He's earned the elusive "Replacement Level" and "Sieve" badges. Of course, CPM is just one metric, but this evaluation is echoed by DARKO DPM (among SFs), where he's bottom quartile in DPM, around 45th percentile in O-DPM and bottom 10% in D-DPM. His DPM peaked in 2022-23 (not surprisingly) and it's been a rapid bobsled ride down the mountain since.
Collins, on the other hand, is only 29th percentile in CraftedOPM, but is 62nd percentile in CraftedDPM and 37th percentile overall. However, Zach looks a lot worse on DARKO among Cs. Both these guys are pretty bad, but there scarcity that comes into play with Zach and his contract has more value once it becomes an expiring (which Keldon's will eventually become a year later, so it's not a huge delta - but enough when we're talking about marginal, overpaid players).
Now, if there was a gun to my head and I was forced to choose which one I'd want to insert into the game for 15 minutes on any given night... I'm taking Keldon 9 times out of 10... but that's not necessarily the same as gauging trade value. Neither of these guys are positive assets at this stage.
They gotta get clicks...
Do we think Brian Wright looks at nights like tonight and says:
“We’re close! I should look at a few moves to close the gap!”
or
“We’re close! We just need to keep pounding the rock!”
I'm so rattled right now I just can't get over Collins costing us another game with 18 SRPs at our disposal and so many backup bigs being available.
Everyone else has at least some redeeming quality even though most are negative players, but a solid backup big is literally the difference between 8th and 11th seed.
If we don't get anyone before the deadline, I'm back to team Brian Wrong and I'm never switching again.
Yeah, even if Jonas will cost 5 FRPs, it’s not like 1) we don’t have them and 2) we ever ing use them
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