yes dumb if he really wants to Play with Wemby. Its not 50 million extra as he gets one extra year with bird rights. The per year contract is what matters. Also terdbucket, He isnt that good if he walks he walks.
We can go on and on about if we trade Castle or not, but I don’t see why SAC would want him. They have 26yo Monk locked up for 4 years and rookie Carter who looks good. Sure you could fit Castle in there but that’s diminishing returns vs someone like Vassell / HB / KJ.
You just made this post:
You're someone who's completely lost and not worth engaging, stop embarrassing yourself.
Watch the game and leave serious trade talk to adults.
It's 50 extra million guaranteed, who knows what happens in 5 years, better players fell off, got injured or whatever, never got the money later on.
It’s a smart point. I’m sure the Spurs will also have some level of heartburn over passing on a 26% chance at Flagg/Harper. Interesting how the unrelated Jalen Johnson injury could dictate where we go from here.
remember Baily, Edgecomb and UT Tre. Include those 3 in percentages all maybe better than Fox by himself. Percentage climbs to what 50
Hypothetical question:
If Fox does not want a max extension and instead wants to extend to a 2+1 player option instead to try and take advantage of his 10 year vet status, can whichever team trades for him offer more per year on that 2+1 compared to a 2+1 he'd get as a UFA if he played out his contract?
Whats crazy is if you look at standings with Atlanta Jalen injury they can easily fall to pick 9. We tank to pick 8 not far from it now. Bulls pick as of now conveys to us at 11. We could have 8,9, and 11 at a minimum. What are the percentages then for a top 3 pick ? or more than one top 3 pick ?
I wish your proposal could happen but I doubt King will accept SPURS garbage.
The Spurs will send over quality picks, but I'd just prefer to revisit once the order is established. Even is the picks end up being 9 and 10 this draft, i think the only team that can overwhelm us is Houston (maybe the Nets but sounds the want to hold powder for Gannis). Houston is the real risk.
Would be about a 30% shot at a top 3 pick in that scenario
Anyone still agaisnt giving up Devin or Jeremy?
So when is that trade
The Kings
The good news is that SAC got beat by PHI tonight and maybe they'll start to feel desperate. Kings subreddit is ready to move on from Fox, maybe their FO is too
The bad news is that I think there is a strong chance we are 8 games under .500 at the deadline, at which point it probably makes sense just to wait until the offseason. It would be nice to get some time for Fox to build chemistry with Wemby, but it would be also be nice to see how the ping pong balls bounce before we make a move.
Wemby and Castle (wtf is wrong with some of u ok to put him in a Fox package?!?) are untouchable
Give up all the rest I don't care.
Why is it better to wait for the offseason? Just for less assets to give up? Honest question not sure if Im missing something.
This is why I would want Fox now and do whatever surgeries might be needed. He can spend half the year hanging out and becoming friends with his new teammates and be healthy and fresh by next season. If we wait for summer to make a trade and then realize he needs surgeries, that pushes our compe iveness back further. This scenario is also why I would want to protect any picks for this summer.
We're closer to a lottery pick than the POs and with JJ's injury ATL's 25 suddenly have a lot more value, maybe it's worth waiting, we could get a top4 and get an elite guard
Also less time on Fox's contract = less value
No rush considering there's so much more than just the PG position to fix
It has already been explained here that the 9-12 odds are pretty close to each other. Im really not interested in doing that. I'd rather they gun for Fox and the play-ins.
The main benefit, in my opinion, would just be to see where our picks land. If you get lucky and end up with a top 4 pick, that may change your approach completely. What if we landed #1 and #3? Maybe you could just trade #3 + Keldon and Collins to match salaries without giving up anything actually useful. It might be too far gone to make the playoffs this year anyway.
It's hard to say if we'd have more or less leverage in the offseason. If Fox sticks by his "only San Antonio" guns it could help us. If he loosens that up, it could hurt us and make him more expensive.
Yah, your first paragraph here is kind of an obvious point. My worry is the 2nd paragraph, I don't really believe that he/klutch will stick to it and then we lose leverage and then we lose out.
Yes
All these five players could end up as good or not better than Fox and if the Spurs and Atlanta continue to lose I would take the odds to get into the top four and if they don't then next summer go hard after Fox.
The Spurs may have three teams in the lottery with some luck with the Chicago pick too.
Spurs are not going anywhere this year anyways.
Honestly this is part of the problem with the Spurs being in no-mans land. It makes decisions like these so much harder/far less obvious. If we were at .500 and in the 9th seed, then it's easier to pull that trigger. If we were a bottom dweller with top lottery odds, it would be easy to say no. Instead we're in that middle space with a superstar too good to let us be worse, but a roster too bad to let us be better. Trading for Fox makes us better, but so does having a Top 4 pick, and if we ended up with somewhere around a 40% chance to get one via the Hawks and Spurs pick... that's tough to forgo.
I'd personally try to make the move for Fox that somehow allows us to keep the better of ATL/SA at a minimum, but I'm not sure that pathway exists before the deadline. But I may also be overestimated the Kangz FO.
If Fox really wants to be here then he can just say he won't sign with anyone else and our leverage goes way up. If that's not happen now, then I doubt its ever going to. Maybe no one offers enough and SAC doesn't move him but I don't think he's going to say SAT and nothing else.
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