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    It wouldn’t be a trade deadline without Dinwiddie or Levert.

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    The Spurs need Cam Johnson AND Harrison Barnes. They don't need Keldon Johnson. But they also need their important FRPs in 2025, 2026 and 2027 (the ATL swap in 2026 and ATL unprotected in 2027). So the best they could do to get Cam Johnson would be to give up the 2028 pick or the 2030 swap with SAC to go along with some SRPs for Cam. The Nets are greedy and want more. Lets see if they hold on to that stance for a hour or so. I think Cam might just stay with the Nets till the offseason. They have tanked enough to get into the high lottery and can simply wait out to get a better pick for Cam Johnson.

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    Its top four protected and if you know how the lottery works the Spurs pick will either be in 11-16 range or it will jump to top 4. Good thing the pick would be top four protected.

    With Fox in the fold that pick will probably end up closer to 16 than 11.
    I wouldn’t trade pick 16 + Barnes for Cam

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    Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless
    so true...

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    ATL is loaded at wing with Risacher looking very good and Jalen Johnson looking like an all star. They can definitely use Hunters 23M better elsewhere and now opened up cap space next season alongside getting more assets to use to trade and build around Trae.

    They may be *slightly* worse this season since Hunter is better than LeVert but LeVert is also very solid. But this trade hurts 26 & 27 for SA IMO
    Yep. EPM rates LeVert higher in both offense and defense over Hunter. ATL might have got slightly better in 2025, actually if advanced Stats are any indication. Niang is no nobody either and fills Jalen Johnson's PF minutes. Its a good trade for ATL. CLE did well to get under the luxury tax this year too. They are stacked with a lot of wings, so giving up on LeVert and Niang isn't going to hurt them.

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    Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless. Cleveland is stacked.
    Maybe but to some degree they are an asset. So are the seconds. So is getting off of 23M from Hunter next season to reroute 23M Hunter - 8M from Niang to other parts of roster due to ATL already being stacked at wing.

    We will see; definitely think ATL gets slightly worse this year but not so sure to what degree and I do think this helps them in future

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    Carter doesn’t do anything that Bassey doesn’t
    he does the same thing bassey does just better

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    We absolutely needed a wing with size and respectable 3pt shot.
    Being paid to get Barnes was ideal.



    Now you're just trying to push a hillariously bad narrative.

    Tbh, what's your issue with Barnes?
    He's our best shooter and doesn't make awful defensive mistakes.
    Stays in his lane, doesn't hero ball, sometimes drops 20+ and is always ready, I don't understand why would anyone want to trade him away.
    If we can get KD or another star, then by all means, but I'm not trading him for Cam Johnson.

    Btw, Champ averages 13ppg on 37% as a starter. We have poor man's Cam at home.
    I have no issue with Barnes just not emotionally invested in him like you are for some reason.

    Comparing Champ and Cam as players is laughable. Totally different players.

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    Apparently Spurs are interested in Wendell Carter jr or Goga Bitadze

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    I have no issue with Barnes just not emotionally invested in him like you are for some reason.
    You're honestly not worth talking to. I think I've been clear enough with my arguments and you have nothing to offer.

    Comparing Champ and Cam as players is laughable. Totally different players.
    They're the same type of wing, it's just that Cam is better than Champ.
    But is he that much better to send out a FRP? I don't think so.

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    ATL is loaded at wing with Risacher looking very good and Jalen Johnson looking like an all star. They can definitely use Hunters 23M better elsewhere and now opened up cap space next season alongside getting more assets to use to trade and build around Trae.

    They may be *slightly* worse this season since Hunter is better than LeVert but LeVert is also very solid. But this trade hurts 26 & 27 for SA IMO
    Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless. Cleveland is stacked.
    Honestly this is a weird trade by ATL. I don't think Caris makes ATL better than having Hunter in any way. Hunter was putting in a 6MOY-worth campaign if ATL was better.

    The picks ATL got aren't worth . 3 SRPs + 2026 and 2028 swaps that are already swapped with UTA. So UTA still gets the best of UTA/CLE and ATL gets the best remaining of UTA/CLE/ATL... in other words... all teams will likely just be keeping their own picks

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    Apparently Spurs are interested in Wendell Carter jr or Goga Bitadze
    WCJ cant be traded right now, but maybe for off season?

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    You're honestly not worth talking to. I think I've been clear enough with my arguments and you have nothing to offer.



    They're the same type of wing, it's just that Cam is better than Champ.
    But is he that much better to send out a FRP? I don't think so.
    yes cam is 4 times the player champ is come on man

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    Honestly this is a weird trade by ATL. I don't think Caris makes ATL better than having Hunter in any way. Hunter was putting in a 6MOY-worth campaign if ATL was better.

    The picks ATL got aren't worth . 3 SRPs + 2026 and 2028 swaps that are already swapped with UTA. So UTA still gets the best of UTA/CLE and ATL gets the best remaining of UTA/CLE/ATL... in other words... all teams will likely just be keeping their own picks
    JJ + Risacher are going to eat up bulk of minutes going forward; Hunter is good but 23M for him is wasteful when JJ is so good (and paid) and you used #1 pick on Risacher who looks very good too.

    I don’t think it’s an amazing trade value wise for ATL but I think it makes plenty of sense. Think it makes lots of sense for Cavs too. Just enough of a value for them. Win/Win IMO

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    And if ATL can get some value by re-routing LeVert or re-routing Niang that makes it even better (which ATL likely does something since they are now over LT with the move)

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    I wouldn’t trade pick 16 + Barnes for Cam

    Barnes is still a nice player but if you look at his numbers is clearly in decline and turns 33 at seasons end. Johnson turns 29 shortly so that four year age difference is worth a mid first.

    Spurs drafted Primo/Dev/Sochan at average draft position of 11. Not sure why people don't understand that by adding Fox the Spurs 2025 pick lost some value.

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    Barnes is still a nice player but if you look at his numbers is clearly in decline and turns 33 at seasons end. Johnson turns 29 shortly so that four year age difference is worth a mid first.

    Spurs drafted Primo/Dev/Sochan at average draft position of 11. Not sure why people don't understand that by adding Fox the Spurs 2025 pick lost some value.
    I'd trade Keldon+worse of '25 ATL/SAS for Cam.
    I wouldn't trade Barnes because it would solve nothing, Cam would just replace Barnes in the rotation and Keldon would still be ruining games.
    We need to get rid of Keldon and we need one more legit wing shooter.

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    Jalen's out for the year and can start alongside Risacher if they want. Hunter hasn't been a stopper to any minutes anymore than Caris will be. Atlanta got worse. I'm happy about it.

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    I would trade Keldon + Branham + 3 2nds + BOS Swap

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    Chris Haynes reports that Trae Young really wants to win and that the Spurs had him on their radar before trading for De’Aaron Fox
    Interesting.

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    Barnes is still a nice player but if you look at his numbers is clearly in decline and turns 33 at seasons end. Johnson turns 29 shortly so that four year age difference is worth a mid first.

    Spurs drafted Primo/Dev/Sochan at average draft position of 11. Not sure why people don't understand that by adding Fox the Spurs 2025 pick lost some value.
    Any trade for Cam that leaves Keldon on the team to get minutes is a losing trade, tbh

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    Jalen's out for the year and can start alongside Risacher if they want. Hunter hasn't been a stopper to any minutes anymore than Caris will be. Atlanta got worse. I'm happy about it.
    Sure - Im just not sure “how much” worse and they got better for next season and beyond IMO with better cap situation and a few more draft assets. But I doubt they stay a luxury tax team for this right? Someone will be moved im guessing

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    You're honestly not worth talking to. I think I've been clear enough with my arguments and you have nothing to offer.



    They're the same type of wing, it's just that Cam is better than Champ.
    But is he that much better to send out a FRP? I don't think so.
    Cam Johnson isn't a wing bro. You're probably thinking of Cam Thomas.

    Not sure about the Barnes emotional investment stuff. He's been here for half a season as a role player on a 500ish team and turns 33 at the end of the season with his contract expiring at the end of the next season. I understand getting invested in guys like Dev/Sochan/KJ since they were drafted and developed by the Spurs but Barnes is a very odd case.

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    Wow, very interesting. I wonder what the Spurs were willing to give up for Trae?

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    Demand a trade Trae!

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