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    I don’t want anybody who was mentored by Pop to take over. Except Hardy or Udoka, but they ain’t going nowhere anytime soon.

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    Aren't you a big PATFO sniffer? I'm surprised it isn't Pop til he's in the grave even if half of his body isn't working.

    But jesus christ, Mike Brown? That's literally asking for a redo of LeBron's first stint in Cleveland. Might as well book Wemby's flight to NY if we end up giving ol retread Brown another shot.
    No, I'm your average non-re fan. Nuanced takes and all that stuff. But yes, to the left in the Spurstalk Overton window, for sure.

    As for Brown, he's not the worst choice, especially for a young and building team. He did a good job in SAC in spite of their organizational fulness.

    Honestly, I just don't see any major names being available this off-season. Becky sounds like a pipedream, and I haven't heard other big names linked to the Spurs.

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    No, I'm your average non-re fan. Nuanced takes and all that stuff. But yes, to the left in the Spurstalk Overton window, for sure.

    As for Brown, he's not the worst choice, especially for a young and building team. He did a good job in SAC in spite of their organizational fulness.

    Honestly, I just don't see any major names being available this off-season. Becky sounds like a pipedream, and I haven't heard other big names linked to the Spurs.
    I'd be legit depressed if Mike Brown or Becky got the nod. They're not the worst choice (that's definitely Monty Williams). But they'd be signs of non-serious organization.

    All of the best apples from the old man tree have already been picked. I don't want them drawing from that well anymore.

    I'd throw everything I could to try and lure Hurley from UCONN. Or look for other young, up n coming talent from other teams that haven't been infected with the old man rot tbh.

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    Imo, the issue is that we need to restructure the entire coaching staff and I don't think someone without top level experience can do it.
    I'm not that high on Bud anymore, but hopefully Suns' season ends up in a meltdown and he gets out of there.
    Kerr could be an option in a few years when Steph retires, but I think he probably retires with Steph due to his back issues.

    Grizzlies and OKC surely have a couple of people who would do a good job if we're talking younger candidates.

    As for throwing everything, isn't Pop still the highest paid coach in the league? Or at least close to it.

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    I'd be legit depressed if Mike Brown or Becky got the nod. They're not the worst choice (that's definitely Monty Williams). But they'd be signs of non-serious organization.

    All of the best apples from the old man tree have already been picked. I don't want them drawing from that well anymore.

    I'd throw everything I could to try and lure Hurley from UCONN. Or look for other young, up n coming talent from other teams that haven't been infected with the old man rot tbh.
    Wasn't Hurley the one who rejected the Lakers' offer in favor of staying in college? Or am I getting the coach wrong? Don't see that happening if he's the one.

    Sounds like you're bound for disappointment, haha. It's a fine line between "young, up and coming talent" and "inexperienced bum who doesn't have what it takes", unfortunately.

    Again I'd be open to an "unknown name" hire, but I sincerely doubt how well this board would take the growing pains that come with a young coaching staff whilst having MVP Wemby on the team

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    Wasn't Hurley the one who rejected the Lakers' offer in favor of staying in college? Or am I getting the coach wrong? Don't see that happening if he's the one.

    Sounds like you're bound for disappointment, haha. It's a fine line between "young, up and coming talent" and "inexperienced bum who doesn't have what it takes", unfortunately.

    Again I'd be open to an "unknown name" hire, but I sincerely doubt how well this board would take the growing pains that come with a young coaching staff whilst having MVP Wemby on the team
    Yeah, that was Hurley. The appeal would be getting to coach a 21yo Wemby along with a guy that he recruited in Castle. It's a long shot but one that's worth a try.

    The bar is so, so low though. Like Mitch is obviously in over his head. But he's been significantly better than the old man that was at the helm that lost any semblance of compe ive fire years ago. Sure, Becky and Mike clear that low bar slightly.

    But they can do so much better, this will be a coveted job in the offseason. You're selling the opportunity short.

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    keldon completely killed the mood in this game.Brick shot after shot.Cant rebound and defend.Another thing that changed the
    game against us was rebounds.How is the coaching and front office not addressing this obvious issue.

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    Yeah, that was Hurley. The appeal would be getting to coach a 21yo Wemby along with a guy that he recruited in Castle. It's a long shot but one that's worth a try.

    The bar is so, so low though. Like Mitch is obviously in over his head. But he's been significantly better than the old man that was at the helm that lost any semblance of compe ive fire years ago. Sure, Becky and Mike clear that low bar slightly.

    But they can do so much better, this will be a coveted job in the offseason. You're selling the opportunity short.
    Yeah, thought that was him. Honestly I don't really see it, but stranger things have happened and it's worth a shot - same with Becky, another longshot. Hurley sounded very pleased with his Uconn job and status during the Lakers saga.

    You're right here, but at the same time, it's San Antonio... I don't want to delude myself that because Fox wanted to come here, that we're suddenly a major pull of a destination. Yes coaching Wemby is great... But you still gotta relocate and live in SanAn full time. Hasn't been too glamorous a proposition in the past. I really hope you're right, because it's clear that Wemby deserves high-level staff around him.

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    Yeah, thought that was him. Honestly I don't really see it, but stranger things have happened and it's worth a shot - same with Becky, another longshot. Hurley sounded very pleased with his Uconn job and status during the Lakers saga.
    I could be wrong, but if a man had Becky's basketball knowledge and coaching skills, we'd all want him on the bench.
    I don't know much about Hurley, maybe he wasn't interested in being Lebron's scapegoat. Lakers looked like a roster close to being done last summer and he would've never been fully in charge there.
    Way different from Spurs culture where the coach is supposed to be in charge of everything.

    You're right here, but at the same time, it's San Antonio... I don't want to delude myself that because Fox wanted to come here, that we're suddenly a major pull of a destination. Yes coaching Wemby is great... But you still gotta relocate and live in SanAn full time. Hasn't been too glamorous a proposition in the past. I really hope you're right, because it's clear that Wemby deserves high-level staff around him.
    I don't think many coaches care about where they work.
    To become a head coach in this league you have to be a workaholic, there's no time to care if there's snow or fancy restaurants outside because you don't visit them much.
    Way different from players in their 20s who have time for activities other than their job.

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    Hurley would be by far my favorite coach. He's a guy who implements a system, values high IQ and likes the human part of being a coach. Would fit right into the culture. If you want 2000s Pop that's as close as it gets.


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    Vassell is just a bad fit- i surely hope he is gone before next season.

    Wemby
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    Sochan
    Castle

    no other lineup is better and the bench will be improved...

    Also - Mitch - he gotta go - he is just not ready.

    ANY coach - I mean ANY coach who was handed the reigns with the future GOAT and now Fox as his sidekick -
    needs and HAS to be serious and ready.

    Hall of fame coaches would SALIVATE at the thought of taking wemby at this age and stage of his GOAT career and running with it. Mitch.

    Find a serious coaching staff and stop this pop re-tread sack of amateurs.

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    Fox was awful. It's going to suck paying him fifty million for this if it continues.

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    Give Castle the fifty million. Only player on the team that cares.

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    Fox was awful. It's going to suck paying him fifty million for this if it continues.
    you're clearly smoking crack

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    Hard agree. Reminds me of the early Luka situation in Dallas. Or LeBron in Cleveland the first go.

    Sure, it's nice having the top-5 players who drags the team to wins on superhuman performances.... But it's even nicer to have a supporting cast that doesn't demand that of him every single night. You can't expect any player to consistently have MVP-level performances to get wins.

    I liked nothing of what I saw from Keldon last night, almost nothing from Vassell. Wemby shouldn't be breaking his back having to carry them, on top of having to fight through allergies...

    I don't think Keldon is a charity case, last night was bad though, what Keldon is a catch and shoot 3 shooter, and decent driver who doesn't pass well. He also hasn't really gotten better as a defender. Most teams would be ok with him as a back-up wing. The problem is that he hasn't actually played as the player he is nor gotten better for the last 3 years. He's also mildly redundant in the sense that Champagnie is a better defender, better shooter, has slightly better size and is cheaper. Sochan on the other hand has got to get a comfortable shot if he did this, we'd be so much better off. Those two should be the future of our 3 spot and we should be willing to move on from Sochan if there isn't some sort of shooting improvement by the end of next season..

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    Sochan actually has a higher 3-point percentage than Keldon. Keldon just shoots them at a higher volume.

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    22 points, six assists, four steals and zero turnovers. Go-ahead clutch bucket and a couple tenths of a second from the game-winner as well. Fox definitely playing well in his new uniform is the silver (and black) lining

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    I don't know much about Hurley, maybe he wasn't interested in being Lebron's scapegoat. Lakers looked like a roster close to being done last summer and he would've never been fully in charge there.
    Way different from Spurs culture where the coach is supposed to be in charge of everything.
    Exactly, you have to keep in mind that he rejected the Lakers when they were only a short time away from crashing and burning - before the Mavs gifted them Luka. Also, the Castle connection might help, along with Wemby, Fox, two high draft picks, and a team ripe for an upswing. You never know, at least try. If not him, kick the tires on other good coaches (like Spoelstra), given the foregoing.

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    To become a head coach in this league you have to be a workaholic, there's no time to care if there's snow or fancy restaurants outside because you don't visit them much.
    I just found this part funny, because Pop definitely visits them quite frequently (well, maybe not anymore)

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    I just found this part funny, because Pop definitely visits them quite frequently (well, maybe not anymore)
    I kind of walked into that one, was just waiting for someone to mention Pop.

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    Sometimes weird just happens in the NBA. The Spurs should have won this game, but it's not like this was some unheard of fluke. CHA has beaten HOU, IND (2x), MIL, PHX, and DAL this year... all teams that are better than us. We've also see ATL beat BOS (2x) and CLE (2x). Sometimes in the NBA, the better team loses. It happens. If we beat ORL by 10 today, everyone will be back to being upbeat.

    I'm most interested in the meta things from this game, good and bad.

    Good:
    • Steph Castle's evolution. Looking much more composed on drives (though still some moves right into blocked shots that he needs to cut out), shooting 40% from 3 in his last 10 games (on 4 3PA/gm), showing a nice mid range jumper
    • De'Aaron Fox's presence and instant impact. The offense just takes on completely different dimension with Fox in there (which I think will also play a big part in Castle's continued ascent). The clutch factor is something we haven't seen around here since we had another lefty guard (he wore #20), living up to the Swipa nickname and I think one of the biggest things... TAKING CARE OF THE BALL. His only turnover in two games came when he tried to throw a long fast break outlet pass that got intercepted. Otherwise, been taking care of the ball like a Jones brother
    • Sochan finding and fitting into that bench glue guy role. He's being put in impossible situations but I think he's adapting well. Just need to continue down this path


    Bad:
    • Yo, can we get Wemby an allergy specialist? This is two years in a row where this is clearly bothered him. He hasn't been *bad* in 2025, but I don't think he's make All NBA if only looking at his performance in 2025 alone. A part of that is this recent stretch after the allergies flared up. This isn't his fault, he can't control his body... but this is known, and there are ways to deal with this. But we can't have a 4-week stretch every winter where we get Wemby off his game because of trees.
    • Keldon, obviously.
    • Mitch's rotations... sheeeeeeesh man. That "Oops All Wings" lineup of Castle-Vassell-Champ-Keldon-Sochan... wtf was that? Forcing CP3 in at the end was a clear mistake, I hope he learns from that quickly... but I doubt it.
    • Leaving dudes wide open at the 3P line, as though it's purposeful part of our core defensive iden y for the last 8 years... what are we doing here?

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    F on Mitch for not making the adjustments early. The Spurs practically came from behind the whole game. Too many open shots from the opponents. And playing against a team without a center, Spurs should’ve dominated the paint. Neither of those happened. And as soon as they finally tied, should’ve taken CP3 off especially on the last defensive stand. Just pure execution. If not for the roookie’s heroics, if would’ve been a blowout from one of the worst teams. Moving on.

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    Very glad Castle is on the team with CP3 to mentor him. Without Castle, I'd be pessimistic about the Spurs future as they would still be several pieces away from contending instead of only a couple and waiting for Wemby + Castle to further develop.

    With the trade deadline over, rooting for KJ to have a better second half of the season to improve his trade value. But Castle coming off the bench will make that extremely difficult, especially if KJ can't hit any 3's. A change of scenery for KJ would be beneficial to his career but will be harder to move him with his trade value cratering.

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    Good news is that Fox is as advertised. That dude is clutch as and has it on easy mode penetrating.
    I played as him in 2K, and he has a 97 speed rating. It's so easy to score whenever you want. He feels like the fastest Spurs player since prime Parker.

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