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Spurs are deep at guard as compared to SF and PF.
Tre will not be there at 8 for the Spurs.
Tre is a better offensive prospect than Kon to me.
He can be a come off the bench to be an offensive spark plug type of player. But the Spurs won't be drafting at 5 and he isn't an option in the top 4 for me also not likely to be there at 8 so isn't really an option.
I don't know anything about Adou.
Edit: After seeing some tape on Adou he doesn't have good shot mechanics so he'll need work there but he has NBA athleticism/quickness and finishing above the rim ability.
Last edited by rascal; 04-24-2025 at 08:09 PM.
Spurs are deep at guard as compared to SF and PF.
We're pretty thing everywhere, tbh
Tre is black.
He thinks Kon and Reed Sheppard are the same player except Kon is taller.
Last edited by benefactor; 04-24-2025 at 07:31 PM.
Of course he is...because he's darker
Bruh, I'm not the one who found some Fitzgerald quote who hasn't even read the dude. I have, and not just the Great Gatsby, but that's neither here nor there. What you're talking about is also called Negative Capability, a literary term about being able to consider different views and ideas, and can contribute to great writing.
What you are evincing is NOT negative capability, but just straight up basketball terrorism. Going on for a thread about trading ing Stephon Castle just after he gets a ROY is not some intellectual brilliance or worth even a smidge of consideration. It's just completely stupid.
But if you want recs on Fitzgerald, let me know. "The Diamond as Big as the Ritz" is pretty wild. "Babylon Revisited" is also great.
Gonna mimic scottspurs style of ranking players but with a twist:
Flagg - Potential High End Star - Tatum-level impact
Harper - Potential Mid Star - Jalen Williams-level impact
Edgecombe - Potential Low End to Mid Star - Lesser Wade-level impact
Thomas Sorber - Potential Low End Star - Lesser Kevin Garnett-level impact
Jase Richardson - Potential Low End Star - Maxey-level impact
Derik Queen - Potential Low End Star - Sengun-level impact
Ben Saraf - Potential High End Role Player - Lesser Manu-level impact
Kon Knueppel - Potential High End Role Player - Derrick White-level impact
Egor Demin - Potential Mid to High End Role Player - Lesser Andre Iguodala-level impact
CMB - Potential Mid to High End Role Player - Udonis Haslem-level impact
Tre Johnson - Mid to High End Role Player - Jordan Clarkson level impact
Kasparas - Mid to High End Role Player - Bones Hyland to Fred Van Vleet-level impact
Malauch - Potential Mid Role Player - Tiago Splitter-level impact
Danny Wolf - Potential Low to Mid Role Player - Center version Kyle Anderson-level impact
Rasheer Fleming - Potential Low to Mid Role Player - Tari Eason or Precious Achiuwa-level impact
Ace Bailey - Low to High End Role Player - Kelly Oubre Jr to Michael Beasley-level impact
Carter Bryant - Potential Low to High End Role Player - Isaiah Roby or Lesser Trey Murphy III-level impact
Fears - Potential Low End Role Player - Donte DiVincenzo-level impact
Newell - Potential Low End Role Player - Anderson Varejao-level impact
McNeeley - Potential Low End Role Player - Lesser Doug McDermott-level impact
Last edited by Dejounte; 04-25-2025 at 05:57 AM.
He's quicker
That was alot of words to deflect and say nothing really. You still don't even understand that nobody really is looking to get rid of Castle. Some of us talk about moving him if some large trade comes down the pipe and others talk about how the fit with Fox is problematic and how we think a decision will have to be made there at some point. You twist that to say 'we're discussing trading Castle' in some generalized way. I know you've got a rep for throwing your BS against the wall like it's some authoritative word, but you either don't comprehend what people are discussing or you're using this strawman crap to make some point to yourself to get off or something. I have no idea which, but it's obvious that your dumbassedry is showing tonight... put down the old man pipe and discuss something or get off my nuts...
We know. Fast black man
We know. Fast black man
Somehow I forgot these three guys:
Tre Johnson - Mid to High End Role Player - Jordan Clarkson level impact
Ace Bailey - Low to High End Role Player - Kelly Oubre Jr to Michael Beasley-level impact
Kasparas - Mid to High End Role Player - Bones Hyland to Fred Van Vleet-level impact
I will insert them into my original list
Of all the comps you've listed, some of which i agree with some disagree, the Tre Johnson one is the best. I hadn't thought of Clarkson, but he's the perfect comp for Tre.
Hope the Malauch, Nipple get drafted before us so a star prospect drops to 8 or 14 opening up high value trade down or out scenarios like the Dillingham trade. Fears, Tre, Jaku, Demin, Queen have little value to us compared to other teams.
So what star prospects are you hoping drop to us?
I named them.
Maybe I'm missing it then. You seemed to refer to Malauch and Kon as being someone wrd want since you 'hope' they get drafted before we pick. Then you said Fears, Tre, Jaku, Demin, and Queen have little value to us. So I dont see where you mention who you think is a 'star' prosect that may fall to use since you just excluded everyone on that list.
McNeeley has to tone it down some. He over plays at 110% and out of control at times, just throwing up wild poor shots.
He has a nice shooting form and the athleticism and ability to attack the basket off the dribble.
He has more potential, lenght/height and athleticism than Kon and is a better fit at SF for the Spurs but he needs to harness some of the wild out of control play.
He's great value now and I'm sure he's a top option for the Atlanta pick for the Spurs.
I wouldn't hate McNeely at 8, but I'd love him at 14.. He is the best fit for how we are currently constructed. That could change depending on other moves we might make.
I don't care about the fit with Fox. if you draft a player at #8, you expect a starter, right? but you don't expect that player to become a starter right away. you draft for potential and it might take even 3 years.
that said, any guard they might draft at #8, they will see as a potential part of a 2027 or 2028 back court. and assuming they see Castle as part of that, they will evaluate the draft with this in mind.
so, if they see Richardson next to Castle in the future, so be it. whoever they think will fit. (likely a good shooter, considering this is an open question with Castle).
so, do they still give Fox the max? sure. because he still might outplay any player from this draft for the next 4 years.
Fears, Tre.. etc.
Yeah, Fox shouldn't be a huge factor in anything. Again and again, he's gonna be 28 next season. He has maybe three seasons of being all that good. Hopefully more, but that's probably about it.
You don't draft worried about Fox's impact. The only player I would shy away from is Fears, because he and Fox are essentially the same player in skill-set, small, low-defense guards who can attack, are score-first with limited range.
The best players post-Flagg are mostly guards, and some of them can play wing. You take one of them without worrying about Fox. Wembanyama is 21 years old, for Chrissakes.
Do you draft for worst case scenario?
What does that mean?
Fox falling off after 3 years. Shouldn't they draft with the assumption that Fox ages gracefully and Castle picks up the slack as he hits his prime.
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