Imo, Rockets don't make sense unless they have a complete roster overhaul. Their spacing is horrible.
OKC is the only team that makes sense if they fail to win it this year.
Williams and Chet will never have more value and I'm sure Presti won't be easy on the trigger with those rookie max extensions, especially for Williams.
He might even pull a heist after they win a ring if those two have a good finals series, get Giannis with just the two of them and a couple of picks.
nah the harper archetype is more valuable. its just slightly awkward in the near future given fox/castle. the bailey/murphy archetype is better if we are trying to fill out our depth chart/rotation for next year. harper could be our lead guard for a decade plus
That's not really the point I'm making though. I'm saying that if you somehow convinced yourself that you preferred the Bailey archetype... you still don't take Bailey, you just make the trade for the actualized version of Bailey's top end PLUS additional assets.
If Harper is projected to be better than Fox and Castle, then why would we trade him and not the other guys? And what is the rush to trade any of them. Draft Harper and complete your guard rotation. With Wemby, you just need to address a shooter and another big through the 14th pick and free agency and internal development. You may hate Sochan or Vassell, but they are young players that have NBA skills. , if Sochan could develop an adequate 3 point shot, he would be the perfect compliment to Wemby and no need to get another PF.
"projected to be better than fox" is a questionable. is he a better prospect than kentucky fox was.... sure. but Fox has developed into an all-star caliber player, a top 25-ish player in the league.
harper is awesome but im not sure if his median outcome is all star and top 30 player. the more ive had time to digest, the less trade-happy ive been.
If Giannis doesn't go to Houston or okc then they might end up moving him to Philly for PG + #3 + 3 future 1st's. You know Philly would do ot and it might be Milwaukee's best option.
This is the thing that makes me wonder what people are thinking when they talk about already wanted to trade Fox before we’ve even see Harper play a single game. Yes, he has the potential to be better than Fox…but I think even saying his median or average outcome is better than Fox is a stretch (and then obviously there is a floor outcome too).
I get the salary component of Harper being much cheaper for the next 4 years but let’s be real. Immediately cutting bait with Fox because a great prospect fell into our lap is an absurd notion to me.
I would agree if they weren't all subpar shooters, tbh.
You shut your mouth
Ugh and you look at next year's draft and know tanking will be huge again.
Why does everyone keep "hoping" guys are gonna all of the sudden learn how to shoot 3s at a 40% rate after not doing so for 15-18 years?
Maybe a few have improved their shot in the past but the majority don't that much.
This team needs to DRAFT and TRADE FOR 3 and D guys. Harper at 2 is no brainer but 14 and 38 could have potential either way.
Draft Harper and a backup SF or Center, steal Steven Adams or John Colins, trade DV for picks to save future cap spaces and prepare for future trades. Harper, Castle and Wemby are the corner stones players for the next decade.
This thread should be closed down now that we know what’s happening
I forgot, we can't draft Dylan Harper, we have Juan Nunez!
That's clearly by far the most likely outcome, especially considering the lack of an obvious Harper Jr. trade.
This won't happen, but if they think there's a good chance that Harper Jr. will become as good or better than Fox, then they might as well save themselves the looming awkwardness and imbalanced roster and have discussions with Wembanyama and Fox now that, if all goes according to plan, is going to have to happen in probably two years max anyway.
If they could get everyone on board, something like Fox for Wiggins, Anderson and a couple of 1sts could make sense, in conjunction with circling back to trying to re-sign Paul.
trading the pick should be on the table and getting a ransom from a team like the wizards... next years draft looks better at the top.
You don't trade a winning lottery ticket for more lottery tickets.
its not though.. its the next best thing. if it leads to a bigger need you do.
It is.
We didn't hit the jackpot, but this was a serious lottery win. Harper would've been the undisputed #1 pick last year.
You know that 14% odds are just that. Teams with best odds moved down. We got lucky.if it leads to a bigger need you do.
Getting lucky shouldn't be a part of our roster building strategy anymore. It should be a bonus, but we don't need to rely on it anymore.
last year was one of the worst class in history.. he wouldnt be a top 3 in next years draft considering spurs history i dont think taking a risk would be a problem in the lottery.
People like you make me wish we drop down in every lottery.
Greed that knows no bounds and hoping for more blind luck when we already have more than enough to create a contending roster.
Gamblers fallacy. Take the chips to the house and cash out without thinking twice. People want to keep rolling back in for more and that's how you give it all back. Spurs hit the jackpot time to walk away.
That’s what people said this year. They tried in a tankathon year, and were still in the lottery. There’s a lot of chatter that Trae may want out because it’s clear that their ownership will never put a top team around him, being unwilling to even pay basic luxury tax money.
Players that work hard on shooting can improve. I think Sochan works very hard on it and I think he can become a capable 3 point shooter. Will he become that in the Spurs timeline? I don't know. Has to happen for him this year. We'll see.
Givony already reported that spurms would draft this guy. He is the king of draft intel close this thread now.
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