I like McNeeley a lot more without the logjam of KJ-Sochan-Vassell-Barnes still leaving us without a genuine PF.
Draft McNeeley(spurs will be set at 1,2,3) and make a trade involving one or two from the listed players above to fill PF and Center.
That should be the move. Which teams would be willing to trade a 4 or 5 for the players you listed?
I've seen posts talking about trades acquiring 3 and d forwards but what frontline players 4/5 might be available for a trade?
Last edited by rascal; 05-17-2025 at 10:14 PM.
To me drafting McNeely and acquiring a legit PF aren't mutually exclusive. To me they are separate issues.
I think a lot of us agree that this should be the move (drafting whomever is best at 14, McNeely or otherwise, and trading some of the Power of Friendship for legit frontline help)... but I'm really skeptical the FO will make such a trade, in which case drafting a PF might be our best bet. Hope I'm wrong.
I haven't followed this draft process as closely as others, but I have been catching up lately. Spurs have plenty of on ball guys to go around, they need complementary pieces who can defend, rebound, and shoot, and there are quite a few interesting ones.
- At the top of my board I'd put Carter Bryant (low sample but eye test suggests he has more upside than his production lets on) and Sorber (assuming health checks out).
- Then I'd consider Cedric Coward and Drake Powell (excellent physical profile, dependable shooters, smart and mature),
- Finally Rasheer Fleming (Jaden McDaniels lite with a more dependable shot), Lendeborg (very solid across the board), Liam McNeely (is flying under the radar, has some worrisome red flags such as his poor finishing at the rim and athleticism, but worth a look later on).
- In the second round, I like Maxime Raynaud and Kalkbrenner.
This feels like a class where there are lots of interesting prospects who not only fit exactly what the roster needs, but have a very solid floor and some sneaky upside. I would try to get another pick close to the 20s if I could, I realize Spurs are unlikely to take 3/4 players but it's time to clean house and move on to the next phase.
PJ Washington, Hachimura and John Collins all have 1 year left on their deals. Collins can opt out and become a free agent. All 3 should be available.
Nope. this pick will get traded faster than your sister at a fruit market
Starting to gel around the idea of Thomas Sorber. Need and talent/value at 14 make him compelling. He has a low-key, deceptively better than he looks at first glance, game that looks pretty Spursy. Should pair well with Wemby for a 2-big config, and maybe fill it up a little with the second unit if we're running elite guard play 24x7. It's fun to mock the Mavs lately, but their front court is going to be a big problem... as currently constructed, lots of sea changes inbound throughout the league soon.
Looks like he could have elite level footwork too. Maybe set him up with some one-on-one tutelage at the Tim Duncan academy of footwork and put a shine on things.
Looks good in silver too.
Disagree
Last year they didn't like the players at 8 so a trade made sense but this year is deeper with better players than what was availabe at 8 last year falling further down to 14.
Right, teams should avoid drafting future All-Stars who put up 21.6/5/5 with good D at 23 because their ceiling is their ceiling because... because they haven't turned 21 yet on draft night?
This is such a weird take. JWill is not a dilemma, he's a 23y/o that put up 21.6/5/5 on .48/.37/.79 with plus D, whose likely to be All-NBA3 and All-D. He is not a dilemma, he's a GIANT asset.
Trades exist right and 23y/o All-NBA two-way guys are incredibly, like those guys that make All-NBA and All-D level at 23 are the most likely to be HOFer rare.
Wash is not better off having less talent but more future cap space and Johnny Davis.
If Dylan Harper looks like Jalen Williams in 3 yrs, we'd be absolutely ecstatic. And we'd rightfully be happy to pay him.
Fleming won't turn 21 until after the draft, big men often take longer to develop, ceilings are ceilings, looking at assets as dilemmas dumb, and maybe we/whoever get 2 better years before paying Fleming because he developed in college and not on the payroll. His rookie deal will take him through his 24y/o season, then he'll be restricted and we'd be ecstatic if there's a conversation of if he's a Max guy because that would mean he exceeded even the highest expectations.
This is such a weird take, their are very few guys like this at this age, its a HOF path especially if they beat Den tonight and ring this yr, and none of those guys are dilemmas on their 2nd contract, especially with an escalating cap. He is not a 28y/o Jaylen Brown getting a super max on his third contract. JWill is not a dilemma, maybe in 4 years he is, but today he's one of the 15 most valuable assets in the NBA and likely to be look like a perfect Robin on a Championship team in a few weeks.
Last edited by Arguendo; 05-18-2025 at 12:07 PM.
He kind of s the bed after the first round, though. Second year I narrow, and OKC is kind of winning in spite of him, not because of him. This series should be over,not going to game 7.
If he makes 3rd team All NBA, he can thank Wemby’s blood clot, and it will also up OKC’s cap, because that makes him SuperMax eligible.
I think nobody on planet earth thinks Fleming will ever become a max player tbh
Maybe my post was inarticulate or somewhat muddled.
But the bottom line is -- I think Jalen Williams is fools gold.
If he isn't a part of your plans when you really get good, then he's actually been a negative -- he's just been taking valuable minutes from someone who might.
In the end, you're not left with nothing, you're left with less than nothing.
My post wasn’t a reply to you, it was quoted to arguendo. I got what you were saying.
Yeah, just responding to some earlier comments.
If it's Harper at 2 (I think it should be), then my ideal at 14 is Essengue. I can get Fleming / Carter ahead of him on big boards, and having guys like Yaxel similar (and trying a 2:1 trade with Brooklyn). But at 14, I'd go Noa.
I don't think that can be looked at entirely in isolation. Still a need to add more shooting, and a back up Centre. I think adding those is easier than a true wing option.
Wait, you think JDub has negative trade value?
Aged like guacamole
Isn't he like becoming a FA?
Obviously, he has trade value if he has time left on his K.
He has one year left on his rookie deal, and then he’ll be an RFA… so no, he isn’t becoming a FA
To Jalen Williams.
Hot take: I think Jalen Williams is an excellent basketball player.
Someone who thinks planet earth is flat maybe will.
Kyrie and Jaylen Brown biggest Fleming fans confirmed.
The hot take is that he isn’t.
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