the problem is by year 4 of Fox' deal Wemby, Castle and Harper might also all be on a max. One thing we can hope for, is that due to having all 3 of those guards, their numbers dip and they extend for less than 30%. Still Fox will most likely have to be traded after his 3rd year.
I'm pretty sure that won't happen unless Wemby leaves the team, because you can not pay 3 players on your team the max. With the cap rising we can actually fit all 3, but once their next contracts come up and we are talking super max, one of them has to go.
It's a good problem to have. Also 30% is supermax for second contracts, so Castle or Harper would have to be obvious top 15 players to meet that criteria of All-NBA for two of the last three seasons or their max is 25% of the cap (assuming Castle or Harper isn't winning DPOY or MVP). If Harper blows up and he's Kobe Bryant 2.0 or James Harden 2.0 three years in and qualifying for a 30% supermax then holy what a good problem to have.
Castle just won one of the weakest ROY battles ever, and Harper has yet to play an NBA game or even be drafted... might be slightly pre-mature to worry about their max extensions.
If Castle is a legit max player then that means his shooting took a leap aka a good problem.
The only place Fox isn't a top 25 player in this league is planet re .
Lol, he wasn't even the best player on the Kings.
With Dylan's dad in his ear, I doubt he takes a cent less than the Supermax if he becomes that type of player (I hope does). The only reason I bring that up, reading Cooper's comments about teamwork and unselfishness, I believe if he liked the team and players and thought they could win, he'd be willing to sacrifice and take a regular max (if the other players such as Victor did too). Steph might if he gets to that level, but this is the drawback with someone like Dylan having a former Champion level NBA player as a father, I doubt he'd do it. His dad would probably make he move on to another team like Kawhi's uncle did with him.
They could visit the ringer website or do a general google searchWe all know spewing dumb stuff is easier.
the Ringer ranked him at 27, so he's right there. At least top 30.
thanks for clarifiiying, I guess I got that wrong. That makes it fairly easy to keep all 3. If Fox gives us a slight discount, it won't even be a big issue going forward.
He was 19 last year; he dropped this year after injury etc…. Dude scored 60 pts in a game against minny!
When you're right, you're rightAre we really pretending fox isn’t a top 25 player ( re-familiarize yourselves )? Money aside, neither castle or Harper are near his level! Let the young bucks grow while fox & Wemby do the heavy lifting
And he backed that game up with 49 I think?
Good video.
What
Flagg is going to leave around 50 million dollars on the table cause of the "love of the game"
It won't even be Flagg's decision. No agent is letting their client take a regular max if they qualify for a supermax
Nice breakdown of Harper's game. I hope the Spurs don't mess this up.
Both Harper and Castle are good rebounders and cut well off the ball. It makes me think that Harper might begin the season as Castle's backup. Harper has a long way to go on the defensive end.
Harper getting to go against Wemby's rim protection in practice is gonna be great for translating his rim pressure to the NBA. Every other rim protector in the league is gonna be a walk in the park compared to Vic tbh
I can’t think of a single supermax eligible player who took less. It’s the next tier down of marginal max players who sometimes take discountsWhat
Flagg is going to leave around 50 million dollars on the table cause of the "love of the game"
It won't even be Flagg's decision. No agent is letting their client take a regular max if they qualify for a supermax
Jalen Brunson was 3rd team All NBA in 23-24, triggering SuperMax eligibility, and extended for 34,37,40,43.
IIRC, Brunson would have had to have waited one more year to sign a supermax extension… he signed an early extension by opting out of his player option and getting a 140% raise extension. So getting the extension done early might have been a motivating factor for him.
Following up here, because I wanted to double check the rules...
As I recalled, Brunson was not actually eligible for a SuperMax last summer when he signed his extension.
To be eligible for a 35% SuperMax, a player must meet the All NBA/MVP/DPOY criteria, but also have 7+ years of service when the extension is signed, have 1 or 2 years remaining on the contract, and be with the same team continuously (unless traded during his first 4 years in the league.
Brunson only had 6 years of experience when he signed his extension *and* was DQ'd from SuperMax eligibility any because he left Dallas as a Free Agent to join the Knicks (the same disqualifier that will prevent Luka from getting a SuperMax, though obviously it was a trade for Luka not leaving via FA).
To sign his extension last summer, Brunson actually got the max available to him as a 140% extension (which ends up being a significant discount at 22.8% of the cap). If he would have waited until this summer, he would have been eligible for a 30% max. Brunson did, however, line up his extension as a 3+1 that allows him to opt out after year 10 so he can sign a 35% 10-year vet extension. This is what I think Luka will do in LAL, and what I'm kind of hoping Fox will do with us.
So... I still am not aware of any *SuperMax* eligible player who has ever taken a discount (but there may be some out there).
Follow up: A quick search shows that Gobert was SuperMax eligible and took slightly less ($205MM vs $228MM. I'm sure MIN is thanking their lucky stars on that one, since even that discounted deal looks like an overpay at this point). Kawhi is an example of someone who forced his way out of a team, costing them a potential SuperMax deal.
https://nbarankings.theringer.com/
Sabonis 26th, Fox 27th.
Fox is most definitely in that 20-30 range, then it's about personal prefrence.
Sabonis is a better regular season #1 option, but his archetype is useless in the playoffs.
Here's an article from The Ringer today on Harper and Bailey: https://www.theringer.com/2025/05/21...per-ace-bailey
For those asking how Rutgers was still so bad with two supposedly great players... this article goes into a bit of that.
If I had to guess, Vic would take less in the future to help keep a championship team together ( if they reach that status ). Good problems to have.
Fox & Wemby partnership is gonna be nasty! Adding Harper is borderline cheating….
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