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    Nah White has zero confidence, you use him differently in his first 2 years and fails he would be out if the league. Pop tried to do what spurms fans want his last year here and it failed miserably, that is just not his game he is a 3 and D guard on a team with star wings like Georgie.
    In his rookie year in the g-league, he was aggressive and launched 3s at twice the rate as under Pop, including a game if I remember right with 15 3pt attempts, he was already progressing towards the way the league was going. He was just sabotaged and hamstrung by Pop, once he was coached by a coach who had faith and confidence in him that his shot making followed.

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    Ace Bailey is starting to scare me a bit. In his highlight videos, it's all crazy dunks. My main concern is I don't know much about his personality and whether he'd be a team-first player. But you really can't deny his talent. I'd choose Flagg and Traore over him right now and I haven't really seen the others in the top 5 play yet to have an opinion.
    He was asked to name two of his strengths and one weakness. His response was that he had way more than two strengths and zero weaknesses. That should scare you. He also has Vassell disease: why settle for a normal shot when you can shoot a contested fadeaway.

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    He was asked to name two of his strengths and one weakness. His response was that he had way more than two strengths and zero weaknesses. That should scare you. He also has Vassell disease: why settle for a normal shot when you can shoot a contested fadeaway.
    It really is a shame too, if he leaned fully into the role player mindset he could honestly be super-Jaden McDaniels, which is an easy third best player on a le contender. He's got the shooting stroke and secondary rim protection to be the premier 3 and D guy in the league, but he needs to accept that he is not and will never be KD first.

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    I think reality is going to hit Ace Bailey hard his rookie year. Seems like a good kid though so once he buys in I think he will be a really good player. I think 3rd best player on a championship team would definitely be a more realistic goal. He is 19. His comment doesn’t worry me too much. Now if he was saying stuff like that come year 2-3 in the league I would be worried.

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    I think reality is going to hit Ace Bailey hard his rookie year. Seems like a good kid though so once he buys in I think he will be a really good player. I think 3rd best player on a championship team would definitely be a more realistic goal. He is 19. His comment doesn’t worry me too much. Now if he was saying stuff like that come year 2-3 in the league I would be worried.
    For this reason, especially if he gets drafted into a terrible situation (i.e. Charlotte with Lamelo and Miller), he's a guy I'd keep an eye on over the years to see if you can snag him as a buy-low option on his second contract if he doesn't meet expectations. Could pay dividends like Wiggins to Golden State - that size and shooting stroke don't go away over time.

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    I did a little dive on this, fearing that it was the dreaded fifth metatarsal, but it’s a monster case of turf toe that required surgery.
    Regarding Sober:

    Yeah, it was a serious injury I still not sure if it is a grade 3 or 4 - A grade 3 is basically a tear so you might be looking at 1 or 2 ligaments tear and possible bone issues. I wonder if he has a less serious version during start of season which could have impacted one of the biggest issues with him which was jumping and switching. If he had a grade 4 which I don’t think that would be real bad as that is what happens when basically your big toes goes all the way back and touches top of foot.

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    So what about this idea?

    We draft Sorber at 14 for Brooklyn
    Brooklyn drafts Raynaud for us at 19.
    Brooklyn drafts Broome for us at 27.
    We draft a player for Brooklyn at 38.
    We also send a future 2nd round pick to the Nets.

    We walk out of the draft with Harper, Raynaud, and Broome.
    What if those players aren’t available?

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    If Sorber falls out of the lottery or even the top 20 that will lead me to believe there are concerns about the toe/foot long term. If he falls out of the 1st all together we know it’s real bad. I don’t think he would have stayed in the draft if it was real bad. He could have just chased the NIL money

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    Same with Cedric Coward. If he falls out of the top 20 doctors must have flagged his shoulder as a long term concern. Teams will all have the same medical data.

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    He was asked to name two of his strengths and one weakness. His response was that he had way more than two strengths and zero weaknesses. That should scare you. He also has Vassell disease: why settle for a normal shot when you can shoot a contested fadeaway.
    I propose we trade Devin to whatever team drafts Bailey, so these two can thrive off one-upping each other. A live game of H.O.R.S.E. playing out every night in front of horrified fans.

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    If Sorber falls out of the lottery or even the top 20 that will lead me to believe there are concerns about the toe/foot long term. If he falls out of the 1st all together we know it’s real bad. I don’t think he would have stayed in the draft if it was real bad. He could have just chased the NIL money
    If you’re confident in his surgery and recovery, you pick him, otherwise, no. Teams do tend to be skittish.

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    (Noa Essengue, Noah Penda, Nolan Traoré. "Le pays qui dit non."

    Direction: NOLA.)

    And Joan Beringer... what the.

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    For this reason, especially if he gets drafted into a terrible situation (i.e. Charlotte with Lamelo and Miller), he's a guy I'd keep an eye on over the years to see if you can snag him as a buy-low option on his second contract if he doesn't meet expectations. Could pay dividends like Wiggins to Golden State - that size and shooting stroke don't go away over time.
    Wiggins was a case where there were enough high powered options around him that he was basically ignored.

    There is a development window of about 3-4 years, and if you miss it, only incremental progress is to be expected.

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    In his rookie year in the g-league, he was aggressive and launched 3s at twice the rate as under Pop, including a game if I remember right with 15 3pt attempts, he was already progressing towards the way the league was going. He was just sabotaged and hamstrung by Pop, once he was coached by a coach who had faith and confidence in him that his shot making followed.
    Doesn't every guard have inflated 3 in the g-league, Blake launched 4 a game.

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    Doesn't every guard have inflated 3 in the g-league, Blake launched 4 a game.
    Wesley went up 90%. But White even more drastic, 130% more 5 years earlier.

    White was too good to be buried as a rookie, and too good to be treated like a scrub by Pop with the benchings andal lack of opportunity. Nowadays he's rightfully recognized as an incredible player who could net a giant return in a trade. The person who didn't see it? El Jefe.

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    Wesley went up 90%. But White even more drastic, 130% more 5 years earlier.

    White was too good to be buried as a rookie, and too good to be treated like a scrub by Pop with the benchings andal lack of opportunity. Nowadays he's rightfully recognized as an incredible player who could net a giant return in a trade. The person who didn't see it? El Jefe.
    Nah you are completely ignoring fit and play style, a lot of it is DJ being on team and being the better investment.

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    Nah you are completely ignoring fit and play style, a lot of it is DJ being on team and being the better investment.
    nope White was there the season where Parker was out and we were thin at the PG spot. But Pop thought White has to learn how to play in the G-League for a whole year. Meanwhile Mitch said last season he had no business being there.

    The same Pop who said Bam Adebayo "ain't ready" and picked Mason Plumlee over him

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    nope White was there the season where Parker was out and we were thin at the PG spot. But Pop thought White has to learn how to play in the G-League for a whole year. Meanwhile Mitch said last season he had no business being there.

    The same Pop who said Bam Adebayo "ain't ready" and picked Mason Plumlee over him

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    nope White was there the season where Parker was out and we were thin at the PG spot. But Pop thought White has to learn how to play in the G-League for a whole year. Meanwhile Mitch said last season he had no business being there.

    The same Pop who said Bam Adebayo "ain't ready" and picked Mason Plumlee over him
    Mitch said White had no business being in the G-League? When was that bought up?

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    Mitch said White had no business being in the G-League? When was that bought up?
    this season before our game against Boston

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    Karter Knox has announced he will return to Arkansas and is withdrawing from 2025 nba draft. You can take him off the board but someone to keep an eye on for 2026.

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    Milos Uzan also just announced he is returning to Houston. So you can take him off the board. He was someone I was interested in shot +40% from 3 and the Houston Guards have showed out well in the NBA.

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    PJ Haggerty the nations 3rd leading scorer is also returning to school. He is transferring from Memphis to Kansas State. You can take him off the board.

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    Tayton Connerway has also withdrawn. He is transferring from Troy to Indiana.

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    To remain NCAA eligible you have to withdraw from the draft by midnight tomorrow. So big names like Yaxel Lendeborg, Adou Thiero and Yanic Konan Niederhauser have big decisions to make over the next 2 days.

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