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I think his point is saying guys like Castle and Harper are important so Wemby isn't on a one man team like the Bucks with Giannis and Nuggets are with Jokic. Generational stars still need supporting players.
His talking about the clippers not the bucks.
I think his point is saying guys like Castle and Harper are important so Wemby isn't on a one man team like the Bucks with Giannis and Nuggets are with Jokic. Generational stars still need supporting players.
thats not the point of my reply to the other poster. The other poster is talking about the clippers being left with an old superstar which is a very different from spurs situation. Spurs have wemby who is only 21 years old.so even if spurs pass on either castle or harper its not the end of the world because spurs have wemby.
and chet
We should bring in Chet along with Giannis and KD, and then bring Boban back.
TOWER POWER LINEUP
if they dont get him extended, he will get offer sheets
Maybe, but of course OKC will just match them. Might even save them a little money that way. Point is... OKC isn't really at risk of losing him that summer. (JDub will also be an RFA at the same time if not extended)
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I think I said earlier Pacers are not a lock to make the Finals. It's the East and the Knicks are pretty good now the pressure is back on the Pacers for game 6.
Pacers win game 6 by 20+ tbh. Knicks had to win this game for pride.
I'm curious what they are going to do this offseason. They have 15 players under contract and 2 first round picks.Yep, it has to be in the most recent season prior to the extension kicking in (which would be next year). You'll see extensions with the Designated Criteria built into them (but not yet earned) show up this way in Spotrac (Cade's is now earned, it just hasn't updated yet):
But my original question was not so much is who is OKC going to lose... but which OKC Free Agent will earn a deal that will eventually be viewed as an overpay because they're coming from OKC (like Bruce Brown when he left DEN)?
They amazingly have no free agents of significance this offseason... but the year after iHart, Dort, Cason and Jaylin Williams are set to become Free agents. I could see Dort and Cason getting oversized deals from dip team like Atlanta or Brooklyn.
Too late for a good ol' necro? I don't check my mentions often, but didn't want to leave this without reply, unlike KA's imbecile message.thanks for proving my point that you're just a bandwagon Spurs fan, just like those bandwagon Warriors fans after they won their first ring in 2015. That explains why you have no clue about anything that you are talking about, since you never even watched this franchise play when they were at their peak. You just watch 5 min highlight videos of the Big 3 on youtube and you might actually be older than meI'm not talking about the 80s, I'm talking about the 2010s you dumb
I'm definitely not older than your TOSB ass
Respectfully, you for gatekeeping sports fandom, I hope you come to realize what bull you're spewing. The argument had nothing to do with the 80's, and I find the at ude we were talking about condemnable at any era (and again, I'll be waiting to hear your takes when playoffs come around and the Brooks and Dort's of the league are trying to injure Wemby on purpose).
Anyways, carry on believing you're the only "true fan" around while actively ting on the team you're an alleged fan of at every turn, like most fart-sniffing basement-dwellers on this forum have been doing for the almost-20 years that I've happily lived my life elsewhere. Cheers.
You got me thinking how funny the concept of "bandwagon fans" really is. The divide between the "true fans" who were there "through thick and thin", in opposition to the "bandwagoners" who only jumped in after the team was successful. When is the last time the Spurs were really, truly bad, unsuccessful, and in the "true fans only" position? It's gotta be the LMA-DeRozan era. But I'm sure most in this forum (myself included) don't count that as real "dark times".
Anything past that, and there's really no point after Timmy joined the Spurs where you can say it was truly hard times - you can always point back to a previous championship or source of success as an exclusionary cut-off to gatekeep. Maybe there were some down-years, relative to Spurs fans' expectations, but nothing like Charlotte's or Chicago's or Minessotta's droughts. Would you have to go back to the McCombs-owned years for that? DRob getting no help for his roster, perhaps even earlier since DRob was a joy on his own? Which would put the last batch of "truly true fans" at people who were fans at the end of the 80's, when McCombs sold the team to the Holts.
This would place our resident True Fan cutoff at no less than 40 years old, of continued Spurs fandom. Quite a bar to clear! I somehow doubt most of the active forum users clear it - I certainly don't - but it's interesting to think of. Literally any fan who came aboard after Timmy was drafted, and rang in '99, is by definition a "bandwagon fan" - never suffering through the truly dark years of the Spurs.
I'm tempted to make a poll on this, it would be quite an interesting survey of the forum. Can any of these fabled True Fans chime in on a date cut-off we could use for the poll? I'd like to be more precise.
Can you stop being so ing dumb for the sake of being contrarian?
Your two quotes don't contradict at all. The would I care about the 80's when the argument - whether it's morally OK for Dillon Brooks to target Steph Curry's fingers outside of a basketball play in order to injure him - is completely devoid from any 80's context or relevance? When I never brought up the 80s and have nothing but consistently bad things to say about players in the 80s, Spurs players included, using these ty and bush-league tactics?
Are you dolt? Daft? ed in the head?
Take your meds, Jesus, and cut the . It's like you want to bring the discussion down to idiotic levels on purpose.
Here's my first comment on the matter, for reference. Whatever the the 80's have to do with this is anyone's guess, and I'm curious, tbqh.
I was saying this early in the year with Cleveland, that they can beat most teams with their sheer talent, but when the playoffs come and they face quality teams, their undersized back court is a problem. When you face a good team and that team has a size advantage at PG, SG, and SF, it's a problem. 6'1", 6'3', & 6'5" means you're facing serial mismatches on every possession, and even on the majority of switches. It <might> be different if one of your undersized guys is a Joe Dumars type, but none of those Cavs are. OKC is closer to following the blueprint of the Harper/Jordan/Pippen Bulls, where teams struggle to find a single mismatch all game. Jalen Williams looks like the odd guy out in that configuration, but his 7'2.25" wingspan is actually similar to Pippen's.
I think Presti is a really smart guy, but even his career shows how much luck and cir stance play out in the NBA. He's on record saying Oden was the best player of the Durant draft, and that he would have drafted Oden if he'd had the #1 pick. But he got the #2 pick, chose Durant, and then was applauded for choosing the best player of the draft.
With Shai, Presti was totally at the mercy of Paul George wanting to leave the team, and demanding to to be traded to one and only one team-- the Clippers. Picking Shai as the best young player to demand in return was a pretty easy choice. Plus I'd add that Paul George wanting to team up with Kawhi over Westbrook was a basketball choice based on looking at Russ and realizing you're probably not winning with him as your #1 guy. In a way, you could argue that Presti holding on to Westbrook for too long led to him being rewarded with Shai... not because of any long term planning or insight, but thanks to pure luck.
suck my .
Multiple people here made the point 100 times that that's what Spurs players did as well when they were contending. Nobody cares that Dillon Brooks behaviour makes your pussy bleed. You're running around sucking without knowing what you are talking about. Ain't nobody gatekeeping fandom anywhere. You're bandwagoner who has no clue how this franchise operates or what their M.O. was when they were winning les. That's why you just stick your nose up PATFO's ass and love to smell their .
You're in love with every move they make, a pure yes-man. If they were all on cocaine Sugus would stand their and applaud, cause that's what you do: suck . If you're viewing basic criticism as hating then you're just a soft , plain and simple. Calling the 2014 Spurs the "peak years" is hilarious btw.
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that's why OKC's defense is so lethal, because they are doing the complete opposite. Players like Dort, Williams and Caruso can guard positions up, which let's Chet roam in the paint instead of being stuck on the perimeter. They can just switch everything and let him be the low man at the rim.
so you really think dirty play and bush-league behavior is a core part of Spurs fandom? That the "franchise operates" these dirty tactics willingly, even today, and condones them? That the Spurs fandom includes cheering for our players causing injuries to opponents as some core, "true fan" belief, and everyone who doesn't agree just doesn't have enough "Spurs fandom" in them?
What a bull view, and the rest of your pathetic charade is nothing but justification of your logic. You sure as were saying " Zaza" along with everyone a few years ago, what a ing hypocrite if you think the same behavior is part of Spurs' fundamental operation.
I'd rather be a fan of a team that has pride in itself, than whatever sorry excuse of a Stockholm behavior that you think your support is. Oh no, Sugus supports the team's decisions that have taken them from a rebuild into playoff contentions!
Anyways, pointless to argue this now, I'll revisit this point once Wemby is inevitably in the playoffs and having dirty done to him. You'll tell me aaaall about true Spurs fandom then
what a ing moron you are
What a bull view, and the rest of your pathetic charade is nothing but justification of your logic. You sure as were saying " Zaza" along with everyone a few years ago, what a ing hypocrite if you think the same behavior is part of Spurs' fundamental operation.
I'd rather be a fan of a team that has pride in itself, than whatever sorry excuse of a Stockholm behavior that you think your support is. Oh no, Sugus supports the team's decisions that have taken them from a rebuild into playoff contentions!
Anyways, pointless to argue this now, I'll revisit this point once Wemby is inevitably in the playoffs and having dirty done to him. You'll tell me aaaall about true Spurs fandom then
"The Spurs would never hurt their opponent to win, mi-mi-mi
"Pop would never do this
go buy yourself a pack of these
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