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    LaRavia and Harper would make an incredible second unit

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    Thought this video was funny, wanted to share.

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    Except Barnes was also a bad defender when he played for the Kings.

    here are 2:

    Jake LaRavia - cost: nothing, he's a free agent - contract: 10-12 million per year - age: 23

    PJ Washington: cost: less than Cam Johnson - age: 26

    you can also add KD to the list. Costs a little more, but is miles better than Cam.
    Since the spurs want to make a big splash (Giannis or Durrant) , instead they could try for both of these guys and save a few bucks.

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    LaRavia and Washington are both officially listed at 6'7 and Johnson at 6'8. That's a strange way of saying that I was right.

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    LaRavia and Washington are both officially listed at 6'7 and Johnson at 6'8. That's a strange way of saying that I was right.
    Unless you think NBA players block shots with their head, you should understand that standing reach matters more than height.

    Mine are combine numbers, yours ain't. Which means yours are wrong unless they shrinked.

    I understand you have a love affair with Cam Johnson, but I'm confident the Spurs are smarter than that.
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    Phoenix is aggressive in pursuit of a) trading Kevin Durant and b) regaining full control of their draft capital starting with the No. 10 pick in next month’s draft, team sources said. Since the conclusion of the season, Houston has fielded several calls from Phoenix, who have since gradually lowered their asking price for Durant, those sources said. There is a price where the Rockets would be interested, but with a fear of breaking up their roster for a 36-year-old coming off injury, doubt remains over a deal materializing.
    that means they would be interested in #14 I assume

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    Unless you think NBA players block shots with their head, you should understand that standing reach matters more than height.

    Mine are combine numbers, yours ain't. Which means yours are wrong unless they shrinked.

    I understand you have a love affair with Cam Johnson, but I'm confident the Spurs are smarter than that.
    This is classic goalpost moving. All I said was that the Spurs should target Cam Johnson because his shooting would be a perfect fit for the starting lineup as a better version of Barnes.


    Now I'm in love with the guy because I used the NBA's official measurements to say that he was taller than Washington and LaRavia, which is true, and that he was a better shooter, which he is.

    You want those players, that's fine but me wanting Cam Johnson involves swapping out Keldon and replacing him in the rotation with a better shooter. Both options are fine.

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    If Durant is traded, he will be allowed to sign a two-year, $111 million extension right away with his new team, or the same two-year, $124 million extension he could sign with Phoenix but six months after the trade. What to expect: Similar to the end of Jimmy Butler III’s tenure with the Miami Heat, Durant signs a two-year, $111 million extension with Phoenix and is then traded.
    if that's the salary for his extension, I'm out


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    Well we ain’t got one of those.

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    if that's the salary for his extension, I'm out

    KAT for KD in 3.. 2…1…

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    if that's the salary for his extension, I'm out

    Yeah, not sure I’m on board with paying KD $55MM+ a year through 2028. I expect him to still be borderline all-NBA caliber this upcoming season. Decent chance he’s all-star caliber the following year…but by 2028 I can see that contract being pretty brutal.

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    Yeah, not sure I’m on board with paying KD $55MM+ a year in 2026 and 2027.
    Serious question: Would Spurs fans be more ok paying KD or De'Aaron Fox $55+ million a season?

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    id rather trade down 14 with nets and also get cam johnson.. makes sense

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    Serious question: Would Spurs fans be more ok paying KD or De'Aaron Fox $55+ million a season?
    For the upcoming season I’d rather have KD, but beyond that give me Fox. I will admit I’m a little hesitant about giving Fox a max extension but I think it’s pretty much a given we’re going that route given the way things played out with him borderline forcing his way here.

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    I just heard a wild rumor tbh. I don't put too much stock in this, but this guy has made a bunch of accurate predicitons before:


    Spurs, Suns, Nets and Hawks are discussing a 4-team deal.

    Spurs trade #2 to the Nets for Cam Johnson, #8 and additional picks

    Spurs trade for KD

    Spurs also want Okongwu from the Hawks

    Apparently EVERYBODY not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is on the table in these negotiations. If the Spurs draft Harper something went really wrong.


    take that how you want it.

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    I wonder what the additional picks would be. What picks does Brooklyn have? I remember Harper's dad mentioning Knicks picks which I wouldn't really be interested in at all.

    Crazy that they want to deal with the Hawks as I assume the Hawks would want at least one of their picks back. Okongwu would be very interesting.
    Only coming away with the number 8 pick in the draft, you'd think they would want someone like VJ Edgecombe or Tre Johnson if they don't take Harper at No. 2. I wonder who their target would be at No. 8?

    Very surprised that they're that interested in Cam Johnson.

    KD, I also wonder what they'd be willing to pay him on an extension?

    When you say it's a "wild rumor," are you saying it's completely made up and this guy sometimes gets stuff right, or does this guy usually have some sources he hears stuff from?
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    Was curious how the rest of the Spurs measured up with this stat. These are all our guys with at least 500 FGA defensed

    Wemby - 42.7
    Sochan - 46.2
    Fox - 47.6
    Castle - 47.9
    Champ - 47.9
    CP3 - 48.6
    Keldon - 49.0
    Devin - 49.6
    Barnes - 50.4

    I would have thought Sochan would be higher, honestly. He ranks around 60th percentile.

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    I just heard a wild rumor tbh. I don't put too much stock in this, but this guy has made a bunch of accurate predicitons before:


    Spurs, Suns, Nets and Hawks are discussing a 4-team deal.

    Spurs trade #2 to the Nets for Cam Johnson, #8 and additional picks

    Spurs trade for KD

    Spurs also want Okongwu from the Hawks

    Apparently EVERYBODY not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is on the table in these negotiations. If the Spurs draft Harper something went really wrong.


    take that how you want it.
    Ehh I’m not buying it at all. Sounds like an armchair GM on the internet…just very hard to imagine the Spurs shaking things up that dramatically overnight after the way they’ve operated for nearly 3 decades.

    I don’t doubt they’re discussing moving #2. But pretty much blowing up their existing core outside of the 3 guys you mentioned sounds extremely unlikely. Moving any of Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Barnes/etc is of course in play, but all of them? Would be a complete 360 from their normal MO.

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    I just heard a wild rumor tbh. I don't put too much stock in this, but this guy has made a bunch of accurate predicitons before:


    Spurs, Suns, Nets and Hawks are discussing a 4-team deal.

    Spurs trade #2 to the Nets for Cam Johnson, #8 and additional picks

    Spurs trade for KD

    Spurs also want Okongwu from the Hawks

    Apparently EVERYBODY not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is on the table in these negotiations. If the Spurs draft Harper something went really wrong.


    take that how you want it.
    Spurs trade #2 to the Nets for Cam Johnson, #8 and additional picks
    I would be disappointed in this. We can absolutely fill out our roster without having to give up the 2nd pick. Harper has too much potential to pass up in my opinion.

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    Ehh I’m not buying it at all. Sounds like an armchair GM on the internet…just very hard to imagine the Spurs shaking things up that dramatically overnight after the way they’ve operated for nearly 3 decades.

    I don’t doubt they’re discussing moving #2. But pretty much blowing up their existing core outside of the 3 guys you mentioned sounds extremely unlikely. Moving any of Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Barnes/etc is of course in play, but all of them? Would be a complete 360 from their normal MO.
    It mentioned they're all on the table, I don't take that to mean that they'd all be moved. Whoever those teams want to make the deal work, is how I'm reading/taking it, but then again I haven't added up salaries (I'll leave that to the experts here) to see if all of them need to be moved.

    I would be disappointed in this. We can absolutely fill out our roster without having to give up the 2nd pick. Harper has too much potential to pass up in my opinion.
    It really depends on what those additional picks would be. Does Brooklyn have any of their own picks? I think Brooklyn would be a lottery team for a while, so additional pick/s could be interesting (it really depends who they're from I guess).
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    Thought this video was funny, wanted to share.
    Love the "HS Student Creating his Final Presentation on Canva" production vibe of this video

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    I just heard a wild rumor tbh. I don't put too much stock in this, but this guy has made a bunch of accurate predicitons before:


    Spurs, Suns, Nets and Hawks are discussing a 4-team deal.

    Spurs trade #2 to the Nets for Cam Johnson, #8 and additional picks

    Spurs trade for KD

    Spurs also want Okongwu from the Hawks

    Apparently EVERYBODY not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is on the table in these negotiations. If the Spurs draft Harper something went really wrong.


    take that how you want it.
    Holy . Doesn’t sound like a spurs move honestly. We better win at least reach Okc in playoffs next year.

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    I just heard a wild rumor tbh. I don't put too much stock in this, but this guy has made a bunch of accurate predicitons before:


    Spurs, Suns, Nets and Hawks are discussing a 4-team deal.

    Spurs trade #2 to the Nets for Cam Johnson, #8 and additional picks

    Spurs trade for KD

    Spurs also want Okongwu from the Hawks

    Apparently EVERYBODY not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is on the table in these negotiations. If the Spurs draft Harper something went really wrong.


    take that how you want it.
    Seems uncharacteristic of the Spurs and Wright to make sure a dramatic shake up in one summer. Theoretically, our new lineup would be Fox-Castle-Cam-KD-Wemby with Okongwu as a backup 5 and then who knows what else coming off the bench... KD+Cam+Okongwu is also $90.2MM incoming salary so we'd have to send out Devin + Keldon + Barnes + Sochan + one of Wesley/Branham/Champ.

    This one seems like a bit of a stretch?

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    I just heard a wild rumor tbh. I don't put too much stock in this, but this guy has made a bunch of accurate predicitons before:


    Spurs, Suns, Nets and Hawks are discussing a 4-team deal.

    Spurs trade #2 to the Nets for Cam Johnson, #8 and additional picks

    Spurs trade for KD

    Spurs also want Okongwu from the Hawks

    Apparently EVERYBODY not named Wemby, Fox or Castle is on the table in these negotiations. If the Spurs draft Harper something went really wrong.


    take that how you want it.
    Was anything said about what Phoenix was getting out of the deal?

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    I wonder what the additional picks would be. What picks does Brooklyn have? I remember Harper's dad mentioning Knicks picks which I wouldn't really be interested in at all.

    Crazy that they want to deal with the Hawks as I assume the Hawks would want at least one of their picks back. Okongwu would be very interesting.
    Only coming away with the number 8 pick in the draft, you'd think they would want someone like VJ Edgecombe or Tre Johnson if they don't take Harper at No. 2. I wonder who their target would be at No. 8?

    Very surprised that they're that interested in Cam Johnson.

    KD, I also wonder what they'd be willing to pay him on an extension?

    When you say it's a "wild rumor," are you saying it's completely made up and this guy sometimes gets stuff right, or does this guy usually have some sources he hears stuff from?
    I mean he predicted mutual interest between the Spurs and KD in February at the trade deadline. He also predicted that the price for KD is low. He also predicted that the Spurs will fleece the Kings for Fox.

    That doesn't mean I believe him, but the #2 being on the table rumor does seem to have a lot of legs, because multiple people are talking about it.

    Y'all gotta understand the leverage the Spurs have in this free agency. There will be major player movement in the league and the Spurs hold the best cards by having #2 and #14. They could do deals with the Nets, Jazz or Pelicans and ask for a haul. All teams that have extra draft capital and front court pieces that would fit on our team.

    If I'm Brian Wright and I look at this from an asset management standpoint:

    - I don't have any extra future first rounders
    - I have to package picks to add players because most of them won't hit free agency anymore

    if I keep #2:

    I draft Dylan Harper - probably a future All-Star/All-NBA guard who has to accept a lesser role on our team, while we already have an elite guard tandem.
    And with #14 I draft a role player.

    or I trade #2 and #14 for:

    -a high level starter/fringe All-Star (Cam Johnson, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, Lauri Markkanen, John Collins, etc.)
    -a pick that's still in the top 10 to add an elite rookie (Maluach, Jakucionas, Essengue, Tre Johnson, etc.)
    -extra picks that I can package to add KD
    -a late first to draft a role player who fell (McNeeley, Fleming, Sorber, Penda, Clifford)
    -and maybe even another future first or swap

    that's enticing. Especially when you nail the Top 10 pick and draft someone who becomes a future All-Star. Like if you trade #2 and draft Essengue at #8 and he becomes an All-Star caliber forward. Or Maluach becomes a Gobert level center. Or Jakucionas becomes a player close to Harper's level, etc.

    That would be a better haul than just drafting Harper. It would also be risky, but if you hit on the gamble...sheesh.

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