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He's one of us!
lol @ harper calling dusty a clown. he ain't wrong.
He's one of us!
Anyway. I'd much rather debate if Harper is better than Fox than Keldon vs Devin like in year's past. This is progress. This is a good thing. I don't see how to be good enough to win a le without quality players who have to sacrifice their numbers to win. Either we succeed at that or not. but at least we're in the conversation. It's up to the organization to get the players to get along.
On that tangent I'd love to see Manu work with Harper, not expecting him to develop his skills, though that would be great, but to, how shall we say, inculcate him into the Spurs way of teamwork and sacrifice etc. Not saying this is easy.
Lefties stick together.
. Seeing Modesto get dusted off by Senior kinda makes my week.
Same energy.
Rafael Barlow was the guy who originally reported he had a conversation with the father of a projected lottery pick and that the Bucks were researching the player, despite not picking until 47 (source: https://www.nbabigboard.com/p/nba-tr...utm_medium=web)
Many people immediately speculated it was Ron Harper talking about Dylan.
Rafael on KOC's show today says he wasn't talking about Ron or Dylan (https://youtu.be/xjs89GetUjg?t=649). I sent this with the timestamp around when they start talking about Harper. Barlow says he wasn't talking about Harper a few minutes later.
KOC says the Spurs are not a good fit for Harper because of spacing issues and then says they should trade for Giannis. Then goes on to say the only problem with Giannis to the Spurs is it will provide spacing issues. Lmao this dude is a grade A spurs hater. If the spurs Traded for Steph Curry he would find a way to say it wouldn’t work.
I could see it now: spurs pick up Curry: KOC, “yeah I don’t think Curry can shoot anymore especially on the spurs it could provide spacing issues” lmao
Last edited by scottspurs; 06-07-2025 at 05:40 AM.
Yeah, loved KOC at the mismatch and between Verno and him, I mostly liked his side.
While still listening to KOC, he loses me more and more.
...and I LOVE Verno while Jacoby is just silly.
wouldn‘t Kon Knueppel be the logical answer? the Knueppel parents seem to be around all the time, playing that ridiculous big familiy show. And they for sure would want Kon on their hometown Bucks. this aside, the Bucks for sure follow several different paths, some might be about somehow getting Kon, he would make some sense there. not every scenario will involve a Giannis trade and/or the #2 pick.
The story also said ex-nba player, which is why people said Harper. It was probably Jase’s dad.
KOC is such an idiot. On a pod this season, he said that Flagg was the best prospect since LeBron. Someone else on the pod said “ what about Wemby?” KOC was all “Uhhhh, uh, college prospect”. Except LeBron never attended college.
yes, makes sense and Jase makes sense for the Bucks. don‘t see him as a lottery pick though, a pick in the late teens could likely get it done. Nets might sell the pick back to Bucks for……well, I have no idea.
That would be franchise suicide, to run off the one star free agent who went well out of his way to not only come to SA but to suppress his market value so that the spurs could keep assets for other deals. You go into a meeting at any point in the next 3 or 4 years to tell Fox you are moving on from him and you will not get another star player to come play here for a very long time. You might have to draft Wemby's unborn children for it to happen again.
Real life isn't 2k where you click a few buttons and bring in a new player. And Fox most certainly is the "alpha" here because he is the one who choose to be here. Just like he choose to stay in Sac years ago and got Haliburton shipped out of town.
I can guarantee you one thing if we draft and keep Harper: Fox doesn’t get a second contract here at age 31. they’re not getting rid of a 24 YO Castle or a 23 YO Harper.
That leaves only two options: dump him unprepared on the FA market, or sit down with Rich Paul, and find him a soft landing. They will not be blindsided, and will probably call the meeting themselves. You can’t pay Wemby, Castle, Harper,and Fox in today’s NBA. I think they’ll realize that.
That foolishness about Fox being alpha? Nope. He came here because of Victor. Wemby is the alpha, and I think everyone except you is aware of that.
As long as Spurs pay him and be upfront with him, I don't think he will have much of heartburn as he will basically be able to pick the team he wants to go to. So, no "we need to first round picks" nope it is where do you want to go and just a straight up regular trade.
But that old saying "Don't count your chickens until they hatched" as we don't know the future and we are all just assuming what is going to happen - just sit back and enjoy the ride..
That’s the key point, and that’s also where the Spurs reputation for straight shooting comes in. We also have a good history with Klutch. Even when Marcus Morris ed us, they signed the deal he wanted with NY, then immediately dropped him as a client.
Lmao at people thinking the Spurs are too good to feature rookie Harper
What are you saying? Spurs have to set up Fox with max contracts for the rest of his playing days because he called his shot to SA? What if he sucks/regresses? His post trade Spurs stint was objectively bad. The optimist in me is willing to chalk it up to playing injured and in a new setting but we truly won't know until next season rolls around and we see him healthy and integrated.
I certainly appreciate him helping suppress the market and fully expect him to get a max extension from us (likely all but agree'd upon before the trade commenced), but if Castle and Harper are for real we can absolutely move on from Fox in a couple years. Now, that assumes Harper/Castle are both on all star trajectories which isn't near as likely as many here want to believe.
Let me also say this; posters on here suggesting to trade Fox and start Harper day 1 need to stick to playing 2k and go read only mode on these boards. That will not and should not happen. We want competent/dynamic point guard play going into this season, expecting that from Harper that soon is going to be a very disappointing. Castle has a long ways to go before he is that guy as well. Young guards just take time when it comes to being positive offensive players. We need at least a couple seasons of Fox at the helm.
When was he ever matched up with Curry? Was this some sort of pickup game they played?
USA*Basketball, probably.
Hypothetical question:
Who is the WORST player you would trade #2 overall for?
Let's say you can package whatever salary filler you need to for 1 player on his current contract / expected future contract. No additional picks, swaps, etc. Everybody trades for Jokic, Luka, Anthony Edwards, etc but who's the worst player that you'd do this for?
My gut says maybe Jalen Williams? Would anybody do JJJ or Franz? Amen Thompson? I'm probably not doing Scottie Barnes or worse.
***Ignore what the other team wants, I'm just trying to gauge how highly people here value Dylan Harper's potential/median outcome
Last edited by SpursBills; 06-10-2025 at 05:34 PM.
For me I’m not trading him for anyone over 30. I think the cut off line is Evan Mobley, Cade Cunningham, Paolo Banchero tier of player. I would thin about players on rookie contracts though. Chet, Amen Thompson. No one from last years draft though haha
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