Locked on Spurs Jeff Garcia said the other day Sochan's extension clock in at 4/80
This is right in that "eh... I guess that's not toooooo bad" range, where an AAV of $20MM gets you in the "what a bad deal" range. 3/54 is still in that "it won't cost us too much to dump this if we have to" territory but the "this was a great bargain" range if it works out. I'm still hoping 3/45 is the upper range, with 3/36 being more of the target... we'll see how much friendship buys you with the front office these days.
Sochan is literally regarded as one of the best perimeter defenders and regularly sits in the top isolation defenders in the league.
How many non-shooters have had relevant roles in this year's playoffs?
Not a single non-shooting wing has been relevant. We lost regular season games because Jeremy was left wide open over and over again and couldn't do , he'd be unplayable in the playoffs.
How would you play against OKC's aggressive defense that's focused on forcing turnovers if you have Sochan in the corner, ffs.
You must be one of the guys who doesn't actually watch games.
What is your actual argument? You want Sochan to be the centerpiece of the offense against OKC when you have Wemby and Fox? You're creating ridiculous situations to attempt to feint an actual argument. The fact you think Wemby and Fox shouldn't be the focus is wild once again.
The wings are controlling the Finals. Sochan is one of the best at controlling the wings. You know how much easier that makes life on Wemby? Prolly not.
But goal post moving aside, actually respond to the comments that were made.
Prove Sochan isn't a good defender in isolation against wings and prove defense doesn't matter. That's what you responded to in argument. You didn't provide any rationales on either being wrong.
There's a massive ing difference between a good defender and one of the best in the league you re .
Typical fan of everything being either 0/10 or 10/10 and nothing inbetween.
That's horrendous, no one in the league is going to give them that money and he becomes useless even as salary filler. There's no upside to extending him now if that's what he's asking for, let him play out the year and test RFA. It usually works out for the team (Reaves, PJ Washington, etc).
Youngest player in the top 10 isolation defensive metric.
Top 10 is one of the best, if you didn't know.
Top 25 percentile in defensive rating in the NBA.
Once again, no facts, just elementary conjecture. Gave you a chance and even lined it out for you and you still couldn't come up with actual facts.
Just ship out the friends
Will make us happy, hahahaha
Nice of you to provide some sources.
Or did you just catch a tweet somewhere?
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/is...ort=PERCENTILE
This one for example is useless.
Jeremy is at 84.8% which should be in line with his good defensive play, but then players of similar size like OG and McDaniels have useless data at 25% and 47%, with lower being worse.
Defensive rating doesn't really mean much in the bigger picture and you do realize that top25% would be good if you want to look at it like that.Top 25 percentile in defensive rating in the NBA.
As I said, he's a good defender, but even if he was the best 1v1 defender in the league it's little use if he makes the game 4v5 on the other end if he's not right under the basket.
There are no more Andre Robersons in the league.
Jeremy has to hit threes or he's just a role player with a minutes cap.
Obviously it doesn’t mean if it doesn’t translate into shooting in real games, but it’s still exciting to see how much his form has improved. The difference between these recent videos to last year or when he came into the league is pretty staggering.
It’s his mindset that is equally important. Dude is scared to shoot as well. That doesn’t go away in one offseason. It might never go away.
Last season watching him pass up on open threes time and again was terrible, it killed the flow of the offense. However, I think it's got more to do with the fact that he was trying hard to be more efficient than actually having a mental block like a Ben Simmons. Still, will consider him reaching respectable status as a shooter is a longshot.
He didn't miss a shot.
Of the 30 secs video uploaded, no. I’m not sure about the rest.He didn't miss a shot.
It's great for Spurs that Sochan will play for Poland this summer. They will be able to evaluate if this better shooting mechanics translate to games (even if FIBA's 3 point line is a little closer).
Sochan's outside shooting is the key point regarding his rookie extension. If he still can't shoot, I think Spurs shouldn't even offer him an extension and just wait the 2026 offseason.
It won't be better, this team doesn't get better, it's the same every year.
It's real to me, dammit.
you can doubt him all you want, but his form is much better and he's clearly putting in the work. That's really all you can ask for.
And this was him 3 years ago.
(0:50 timestamp since this garbage forum doesn't register it in the link for some reason)
I know he shot it like that before. Spurs staff probably put the hitch in so he focuses on one thing at a time in his shooting form. Still you can see progress. If it translates to games has to be seen, but at least the kid is working hard on it.
I've seen this dude warm up pregame in January and his shooting was abysmal. That's good progress for 5 months.
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There's obviously progress, but a lot of non-shooters look great in practice.
Until he starts showing progress in games, I'm not getting hyped over it.
The first thing he needs to do is not hesitate when left wide open.
If he hesitates, that's game over already.
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