2025 NBA Draft

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Meanwhile, has there been significant development in our Beno Udrih 2.0 ??

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[RC_Drunkford]

Help us build a good team or help their clients get paid? I guess the Mitch signing without compe ion makes sense now. They waited until Pop was incapacitated and took advantage of it.

the entire Fox trade was spearheaded by Clutch.

Fox - Clutch
LaVine - Clutch

the prior trade was a Spurs/Pelicans/Kings 3-team deal. Players involved:

Fox - Clutch
Dejounte Murray - Clutch
Keldon Johnson - Clutch

and it fell through cause Dejounte got injured, which made them pivot to the Bulls. And before you ask me for sources, Don Harris said that this was the first framework of the deal.

[CGD]

Guys, what do you think of this future prospect?

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Wow, the “bend over” guy is gonna have field day with “Da-bone.”

[exstatic]

the entire Fox trade was spearheaded by Clutch.

Fox - Clutch
LaVine - Clutch

the prior trade was a Spurs/Pelicans/Kings 3-team deal. Players involved:

Fox - Clutch
Dejounte Murray - Clutch
Keldon Johnson - Clutch

and it fell through cause Dejounte got injured, which made them pivot to the Bulls. And before you ask me for sources, Don Harris said that this was the first framework of the deal.

I remember hearing that. It was too bad for Sacto that didn’t happen. DJ would have been better than Lavine for them.

[R. DeMurre]

Some might say that but I chose Wolf because Queen is a better rebounder defensively

It does amaze me how often people neglect defensive rebounding as a part of defense... it's a serious liability that people overlook with guys like JJJ and Paolo.

[scottspurs]

It does amaze me how often people neglect defensive rebounding as a part of defense... it's a serious liability that people overlook with guys like JJJ and Paolo.

Not giving teams 2nd Chance points is the 2nd most important aspect of defense after not letting the ball go in the hoop.

[Dex]

Not giving teams 2nd Chance points is the 2nd most important aspect of defense after not letting the ball go in the hoop.

Defensive possession isn't over until you secure the rebound.

One of the things that drives me crazy about this young group is they try to tap the ball out too much instead of just getting good position and grabbing the damn ball. Half the time that ends up going back to the other team for an easy shot.

[ace3g]

[scottspurs]

Damn that’s back to back years that someone has gotten injured during a Spurs workout. Salaun sprained his ankle last year but this one is tough. Maybe the Spurs can find a way to allow him to rehab at the Spurs facility.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Hope he had great insurance specifically for this kind of

[scottspurs]

Ben Saraf 20 pts, 4 ast, 4 Reb, 2 stl

Noa Essengue 4 pts, 1 reb in 13 minutes ooof

Today in German league finals. Ulm won

[scottspurs]

I like Noa but part of me hopes someone else takes the swing before the Spurs do. Push a more ready made player down the board. Today’s performance hurts that from happening

[Bruno]

Essengue has been statistically bad in all 3 games of the German league (average of 3.7 ppg). He has a lot of qualities but right now he is skinny player who can't shot and I don't see how it will work in the NBA.

Question is how fast can he fix that if he can fix it?

Shooting wise, he is getting better year after year but he has still a long way to go. Even if he has been for 5 years in high level teaching structures (INSEP and Ulm), his shot still isn't in place. This year he is at 28% from FIBA 3.

Bulking wise, he has gained only 6lbs between February 2024 and now.

He really is a long term project.

[Bruno]

Meanwhile, has there been significant development in our Beno Udrih 2.0 ??

He hasn't played since February because of a torn meniscus that required surgery.

[Russ]

Essengue has been statistically bad in all 3 games of the German league (average of 3.7 ppg). He has a lot of qualities but right now he is skinny player who can't shot and I don't see how it will work in the NBA.

Question is how fast can he fix that if he can fix it?

Shooting wise, he is getting better year after year but he has still a long way to go. Even if he has been for 5 years in high level teaching structures (INSEP and Ulm), his shot still isn't in place. This year he is at 28% from FIBA 3.

Bulking wise, he has gained only 6lbs between February 2024 and now.

He really is a long term project.

So maybe it's . . .

Thomas Sorber

Carter Bryant

Asa Newell

And only then . . .

Noa Essengue.

Unless they want to go with an older college guy (I'd roll with the above guys).

[RC_Drunkford]

all this only to maybe be considered for a Spurs 2-way contract. That's a bad look. Hope dude can recover.

[Ariel]

Right now this is where I'm at:

• I'd move up for if the price is right: Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel
• If we stay at 14: Carter Bryant, Joan Beringer, Cedric Coward, Thomas Sorber
• If we move back into the 20s: Rasheer Fleming, Drake Powell, McNeely
• In the 2nd round: Noa Penda, Kalkbrenner, Hugo Gonzalez (draft & stash only), Raynaud, Niederhauser, Proctor, Kobe Brea
• I'm intrigued but not a fit so pass: Traore (can't take another PG but has top 5 in the class potential), Demin (probably Giddey 2.0, but a star if he shoots it), Danny Wolf (don't trust the shot, but if it comes along watch out).
• Do not want: Essengue (don't know what he does, really), Murray Boyles (good player otherwise, but hopeless non shooter)

[mystargtr34]

Stumbled across the locked on Hawks podcast and as expected the podcasters and the comments section is talking about their need for a C and size in general.

I could see the Hawks trying to trade up to 7 or 8 to draft Maluach. It would take their 13 and 22 plus another asset I would say. Failing that I think at 13 they would take Queen, Beringer, Sorber or even Newell. Queen or Sorber are not vertical spacers which is probably what you want next to Trae to unlock his passing at his midget size but Queens talent may be too much to pass up.

[mystargtr34]

CMB was the only real non Center who came up on the Hawks podcast they seem to like him.

In terms of the Bulls at 12, feels like they have similar needs to Atlanta at the C spot to replace Vucevic. Bulls are less set at the 4 position (despite having $90M tied up to Pat Williams). They have Buzelis at the 3, Colby White and Giddey did well in the backcourt together. I could see the Bulls draft board having Maluach, Queen, Beringer, Sorber on it in that order. I would throw in Essengue and Carter Bryant somewhere before or after Queen.

[scott]

CMB was the only real non Center who came up on the Hawks podcast they seem to like him.

In terms of the Bulls at 12, feels like they have similar needs to Atlanta at the C spot to replace Vucevic. Bulls are less set at the 4 position (despite having $90M tied up to Pat Williams). They have Buzelis at the 3, Colby White and Giddey did well in the backcourt together. I could see the Bulls draft board having Maluach, Queen, Beringer, Sorber on it in that order. I would throw in Essengue and Carter Bryant somewhere before or after Queen.

CMB could be an interesting fit for the Bulls... they could take a page out of the Spurs playbook and hinge everything on "if these guys can learn to shoot..."

[RC_Drunkford]

Stumbled across the locked on Hawks podcast and as expected the podcasters and the comments section is talking about their need for a C and size in general.

I could see the Hawks trying to trade up to 7 or 8 to draft Maluach. It would take their 13 and 22 plus another asset I would say. Failing that I think at 13 they would take Queen, Beringer, Sorber or even Newell. Queen or Sorber are not vertical spacers which is probably what you want next to Trae to unlock his passing at his midget size but Queens talent may be too much to pass up.

I wouldn't be only focused on C there. They are very high on Demin as well.

[SpursGenius]

the entire Fox trade was spearheaded by Clutch.

Fox - Clutch
LaVine - Clutch

the prior trade was a Spurs/Pelicans/Kings 3-team deal. Players involved:

Fox - Clutch
Dejounte Murray - Clutch
Keldon Johnson - Clutch

and it fell through cause Dejounte got injured, which made them pivot to the Bulls. And before you ask me for sources, Don Harris said that this was the first framework of the deal.

wish second deal happened we keep bulls pickj and get rid of trash keldon

[SpursGenius]

Right now this is where I'm at:

• I'd move up for if the price is right: Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel
• If we stay at 14: Carter Bryant, Joan Beringer, Cedric Coward, Thomas Sorber
• If we move back into the 20s: Rasheer Fleming, Drake Powell, McNeely
• In the 2nd round: Noa Penda, Kalkbrenner, Hugo Gonzalez (draft & stash only), Raynaud, Niederhauser, Proctor, Kobe Brea
• I'm intrigued but not a fit so pass: Traore (can't take another PG but has top 5 in the class potential), Demin (probably Giddey 2.0, but a star if he shoots it), Danny Wolf (don't trust the shot, but if it comes along watch out).
• Do not want: Essengue (don't know what he does, really), Murray Boyles (good player otherwise, but hopeless non shooter)

good except no to Carter B and Raynaud. Also Mcneely sux ass