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    The no ceilings guys are live on youtube right now, very good stuff, and they have contacts and sources as well, so should be a good watch,

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    Harper #2
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    trade keldon and seconds for John Collins

    sign one of BroLo, Kornet, Capela, Horford, or Hayes to be the backup 5. Ideally whichever you can get for BAE. Bring back Mamu as the “break glass” pf/c

    use MLE on ideally Laravia, potentially for NAW. A couple of other names work here but those two i like the most

    Fox/Harper/Wesley
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    Castle/Barnes/LaRavia
    Collins/Sochan
    Wemby/Kornet/Mamu

    most of these guys can move up or down 1 spot as well. Collins can play center in a pinch. LaRavia plays both forward spots. Castle can play 1-3, Devin and champ play 2/3, barnes/laravia can play either forward spot. Harper can play 1/2. Mamu can play 4/5. Just have a lot of versatility with this type of roster
    Last edited by spurraider21; 06-23-2025 at 10:25 PM.

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    Unless this is a massive smokescreen the Spurs are drafting a big at 14. When your franchise player says he wants to play the 4 you play him as a 4. They could also draft a wing and look for a big in free agency but that would clearly be option B
    Listen to the video and the guy says "...reportedly Wemby isn't crazy about playing the five...". That's a rumor and far from actual fact Wemby told the Spurs he doesn't want to play the five. Now I think we all agree Wemby doesn't want to be a full-time five, but not factual he told the Spurs he doesn't want to play the five.

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    Take Harper at 2 and then best available player according to your board at 14

    No need to overcomplicate this

    You are coming off a 34 win season. Yeah I know Wemby and Fox missed time

    Wemby, Castle, and Harper are all 21 or under. Take another 21 or under at 14

    Nothing better than elite young players on rookie deals

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    Keep your future draft capital.

    Lotto luck strikes again. #1 again would’ve been perfect. #2 ain’t that bad

    You have #38 to roll the dice with, or maybe someone falls there you weren’t expecting

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    I’m less focused on size and more focused on lateral quickness. My eyes were glued to the screen trying to figure out what makes OKC’s scheme work so well and it’s just that their players are so quick on their feet to get to their spots. Getting beat by their man was so rare. They are so much quicker than Vassell for example, and you’d look at Vassell and think that his build looks like he should be quick on the floor but he’s not. I’m comparing tape between Carter Bryant and Coward and Carter doesn’t move like he should out there. His saving grace is his length and size but I think I’ve seen enough of these types to know that it doesn’t guarantee being a consistently good defender. Coward moves better than him, and his extra length does make me believe he’d actually serve a purpose on defense, and that’s why I’d much prefer him over Bryant. I like to point to Isaiah Roby when it comes to these archetypes and look at how one could be blessed with almost perfect physical tools yet failed as an NBA player. To me, the missing ingredient is just their lack of quickness (and sometimes it’s poor defensive IQ) is why they weren’t successful. I’m rambling.
    It's all of the hilarious fouling they get away with. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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    if you are trying to paint amare stoudemire as anything other than a resounding success you are doing something wrong
    What I'm saying is, on the surface, Amare looked like a great athlete, but he was a piss poor defender because he didn't have great lateral mobility. I don't consider that a great athlete. TD for example, had pretty good lateral quickness before his injuries. TD was able to move his feet side to side before his knee injuries. Amare was always average/poor in that regard. I consider a younger Tim a better athlete that Amare. It's not just about leaping and north/south movement.

    Also, I wasn't questioning Amare as a player, just pointing out that people mostly think of athleticism as being able to jump high and run fast in a straight line. I don't consider that a great athlete if you can't move side to side or be able stick with your man. That doesn't mean you're a poor defender as you can make up for that with length and positioning, but it's going to be harder if you don't have the physical tools. Another example, prime Kawhi is known as a great defender, but he got absolutely blown by in the first round by Monte Ellis in the 2014 playoffs, and he had real trouble sticking with fast guards in general, but he was able to make up for that by still being able to stay in plays with his length and recovery.
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    Harper #2
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    trade keldon and seconds for John Collins

    sign one of BroLo, Kornet, Capela, Horford, or Hayes to be the backup 5. Ideally whichever you can get for BAE. Bring back Mamu as the “break glass” pf/c

    use MLE on ideally Laravia, potentially for NAW. A couple of other names work here but those two i like the most

    Fox/Harper/Wesley
    Vassell/Champagnie/Coward
    Castle/Barnes/LaRavia
    Collins/Sochan
    Wemby/Kornet/Mamu

    most of these guys can move up or down 1 spot as well. Collins can play center in a pinch. LaRavia plays both forward spots. Castle can play 1-3, Devin and champ play 2/3, barnes/laravia can play either forward spot. Harper can play 1/2. Mamu can play 4/5. Just have a lot of versatility with this type of roster
    Now we're talking. (I'd start Harper at the 2 and stagger, but doesn't matter here). #CastleIsASF

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    Are we still sure about drafting Maluach? RC_Drunkford
    the Holts paid Trump a quarter mill for his campaign before. I'm sure that won't be an issue.

    San Antonio Spurs Holt family ownership are listed among the 10 biggest donors to the Republican party according to reports. They have made more than $1.4 million in donations.

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    Tbh it doesn’t sound like Wemby to say he “doesn’t want to play center”. I think he doesn’t want to be limited by position regardless of which position label he has. He doesn’t want to be put into any sort of box, but that’s different than him saying “hey I don’t want to be the main interior presence on our team”. The latter type of statement just doesn’t sound like him but who knows. Either way it’s certainly interesting.
    Yeah the phrasing is weird, the reality is that it would be stupid af from the Spurs to limit Wemby at the 5.

    Not only it would handicap him athletically (his center of gravity is too high to live in the post) but it'd prevent him from using his skillset

    If Spurs find an inside/out big I can see them using a 2 bigs lineup that would be a nightmare to play against

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    Listen to the video and the guy says "...reportedly Wemby isn't crazy about playing the five...". That's a rumor and far from actual fact Wemby told the Spurs he doesn't want to play the five. Now I think we all agree Wemby doesn't want to be a full-time five, but not factual he told the Spurs he doesn't want to play the five.
    wemby has said in the past he sees himself more of a 4 or perimeter player.Im sure wemby getting annoyed trying to protect the paint
    the majority of the game cause his team cant guard nobody one on one.You got guys like vassell and keldon who ballhog and get to do
    whatever they want on offence and then dont play d and expect wemby to clean up there mess and help defend cause they give no effort.

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    It's all of the hilarious fouling they get away with. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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    To further add onto my point about mobility and lateral quickness, last night Sam Vicence (however you spell it) said the same thing about Joan Beringer. How a player moves on the court with their size is a game changer. That is why teams happen to be high on Beringer despite the lack of skills. It’s not like anyone’s making that up here- teams believe it. That’s why they’re drafting these types high.

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    To further add onto my point about mobility and lateral quickness, last night Sam Vicence (however you spell it) said the same thing about Joan Beringer. How a player moves on the court with their size is a game changer. That is why teams happen to be high on Beringer despite the lack of skills. It’s not like anyone’s making that up here- teams believe it. That’s why they’re drafting these types high.
    Noone is denying that, the issue is that we desperately need a backup big who can contribute right away.
    Is it worth using a #14 on this kid while waiting a year or two until he's ready when his ceiling on our roster will be backup big?

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    Noone is denying that, the issue is that we desperately need a backup big who can contribute right away.
    Is it worth using a #14 on this kid while waiting a year or two until he's ready when his ceiling on our roster will be backup big?
    trust me it will take longer than 2 years...The guy hasn't even played ball for 4 years. He needs another 3-4.

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    To further add onto my point about mobility and lateral quickness, last night Sam Vicence (however you spell it) said the same thing about Joan Beringer. How a player moves on the court with their size is a game changer. That is why teams happen to be high on Beringer despite the lack of skills. It’s not like anyone’s making that up here- teams believe it. That’s why they’re drafting these types high.
    I thought it was proved aleady that wemby cant play with bigs like this.Wemby and gobert didnt really mesh
    well when they played together for the french team.Thought we agreed a big who can spread the floor would
    be best alongside wemby.Somebody like a al horford type big would be best imo.

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    I thought it was proved aleady that wemby cant play with bigs like this.Wemby and gobert didnt really mesh
    well when they played together for the french team.Thought we agreed a big who can spread the floor would
    be best alongside wemby.Somebody like a al horford type big would be best imo.
    Gobert is a low IQ rim runner, very limited.

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    I thought it was proved aleady that wemby cant play with bigs like this.Wemby and gobert didnt really mesh
    well when they played together for the french team.Thought we agreed a big who can spread the floor would
    be best alongside wemby.Somebody like a al horford type big would be best imo.
    you can't compare every non-shooting big with Gobert. Gobert is so bad that his teammates don't even pass him the ball when he's right at the rim. He also doesn't have any back to the basket game.

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    I think that Gobert is legit the worst major accolade winner I've ever watched play when it comes to actual basketball skills.
    He's literally the guy people refer to unskilled, tall players.

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    I think that Gobert is legit the worst major accolade winner I've ever watched play when it comes to actual basketball skills.
    He's literally the guy people refer to unskilled, tall players.
    Marcus Camby though.

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    Kon Knueppel is the only top prospect to have worked out with the Charlotte Hornets. Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe and Tre Johnson all declined to workout for the hornets. According to the Barlowe Brothers

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    Kon Knueppel is the only top prospect to have worked out with the Charlotte Hornets. Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe and Tre Johnson all declined to workout for the hornets. According to the Barlowe Brothers
    Kon has the bball IQ equivalent with the entire Hornets team

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    I think that Gobert is legit the worst major accolade winner I've ever watched play when it comes to actual basketball skills.
    He's literally the guy people refer to unskilled, tall players.
    Mind-blowing that he's 33 years old and hasn't developed a single offensive move throughout his career. Not one. All of his points come on lobs, put-backs, and the occasional FT. Like what do his offseason workouts even look like? Sounds like a lazy dumbass tbh.

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