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    Post your final draft board, a board you like, your favorite players from this draft or players you are higher/lower on.

    Scottspurs Final 2025 NBA Draft Board
    1Cooper Flagg Forward
    Foundational piece could be a franchise player Scottie Pippen, Kawhi Leonard
    Future All-NBA Great White Shark
    2Dylan Harper Guard
    Scores in the paint and gets to the line. NBA Body and best offensive weapon in draft James Harden, Cade Cunningham
    Future All-Star Filipino Flash
    3Tre Johnson Guard
    Best scorer in the draft with underrated playmaking chops Reggie Miller, Ray Allen
    Future All-Star Tre Buckets
    4Kasparas Jakucionis Guard
    Most advanced offense engine in the draft that plays with great pace Luka Doncic, Jason Kidd
    future All-Star Smooth Operator
    5Derik Queen Big
    Most skilled Big man in this draft class, playmaker and rebounder Alperen Sengun, Zach Randolph
    Future All-Star Queen Bee
    6Ace Bailey Forward
    Tough shot maker. Top 3/D prospect in draft Tracy Mcgrady, Carmelo Anthony
    Future All-star Pocket Aces
    7VJ Edgecombe Guard
    Run, Jump and Dunk Defender that can shoot Victor Oladipo, Anthony Edwards
    Future All-star The Edge
    8Cedric Coward Wing
    Shooter with defensive upside, length and athleticism Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson
    High-End Starter Cedric the Entertainer
    9Kon Knueppel Wing
    Shooter and High IQ glue guy/connector Eric Gordon, Desmond Bane
    High-End Starter The Cheese Ball
    10Thomas Sorber Big
    Best Defensive Anchor in the draft that can Bang down low Ben Wallace, Paul Millsap
    High-End Starter Wrecking Baller
    11Noa Essengue Forward
    Long rangy do it all forward. Jack of all trades Master of none Pascal Siakam, Nicolas Batum
    High-End Starter Prancing Deer
    12Nolan Traore Guard
    Quick Nimble Initiator with massive upside Tony Parker, Andrew Nembhard
    High-End Starter Oui Oui
    13Egor Demin Forward
    Point Forward and best passer in the draft Josh Giddey, Ben Simmons
    High-End Starter Arctic Dimes
    14Nique Clifford Wing
    Polished all around wing that can do it all Derrick White, Dillon Brooks
    High-End Starter Oldie Ram
    15Khaman Maluach Big
    Big tall athletic rim running center Deandre Ayton, Jermaine O’Neal, Deandre Jordan
    High-end Starter Sudan the Man
    16Noah Penda Forward
    Beefy lockdown defender with plenty of versatility OG Anunoby, Charles Barkley
    High-End Starter French Bulldog
    17Ben Saraf Guard
    Crafty lefty that can play on or off ball Manu Ginobili, Rudy Fernandez
    6th man Israeli Assassin
    18Jase Richardson Guard
    High IQ shooter and scorer Patty Mills, Kyle Lowry, Fred VanVleet
    6th man Set the Jase
    19Rasheer Fleming Forward
    Long defender and shooter with quick feet Shawn Marion, Patrick Patterson
    6th man Rasheer Fleecing
    20Maxime Raynaud Big
    High IQ fundamental big spreads the floor and rebounds Lauri Markkanen, Brook Lopez
    6th man The Pawn
    21Asa Newell Big
    Athletic big that hustles Al Horford, Anderson Varejao
    6th man Air Uga
    22Carter Bryant Forward
    Athletic Mystery Box that could Boom or Bust Jayson Tatum, Patrick Williams
    Project Bear Down
    23Hugo Gonzalez Forward
    Athletic Mystery box 2.0 that could boom or bust Bonzi Wells, Omri Casspi
    Project HU Goner
    24Joan Beringer Big
    Super Athlete, super long, super raw Tyson Chandler, Javale McGee
    Project The Goaltender
    25Neoklis Avdalas Wing
    Fluid versatile athletic shooter needs fine tuning Davis Bertans, Manu Ginobili
    Project Neo
    26Collin Murray-Boyles Big
    No 3 and D! High level processor of questionable decisions Draymond Green, Boris Diaw
    Rotational Guy CMB
    27Liam Mcneely Forward
    Shooter, glue guy, rebounder Corey Kispert, Kevin Love
    Rotational Guy Headband Husky
    28Jeremiah Fears Guard
    Undersized crafty Scorer Lou Williams, Leandro Barbosa
    rotational Guy Paint Merchant
    29Will Riley Wing
    3 and D needs to gain weight/strength Kelly Oubre, Julian Champagnie
    Rotational Guy Smiley Riley Slim
    30Walter Clayton Jr. Guard
    Pro Ready Bucket getting streaky shooter Fred VanVleet, Jalen Suggs
    Rotational Guy Chompionship
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    Adou Thiero Forward
    Athletic do it all guy gets to the line but can’t shoot yet Scottie Barnes, Lamar Odom
    Rotational Guy Don’t mind if Adou
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    Drake Powell Wing
    Best athlete in draft can 3 and D but that’s it Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson, Jason Richardson
    Rotational Guy Rake POW
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    Sion James Wing
    3 and D Jaren Jackson Sr, Danny Green
    Rotational Guy Not King James Version
    34
    Danny Wolf Big
    Ball handling Big Luke Kornet, Kyle Anderson
    Rotational Guy White Tone Wolf
    35
    Hansen Yang Big
    Fundamentally sound big man Robin Lopez, Zach Edey
    Rotational Guy The Great Wall
    36
    Ryan Kalkbrenner Big
    Rim protecting Big Mark Eaton, Caldwell Jones
    rotational Guy Dr. Stuffs
    37
    Mouhamed Faye Big
    Powerful athletic rim running big Clint Capela, Shawn Kemp
    Rotational Guy Big Momo
    38
    Koby Brea Wing
    The real best shooter in Draft Kyle Korver, James Jones
    Bench situational Automatic
    39John Tonje, 40Chaz Lanier, 41Micah Peavy, 42Yanic Konan Niederhauser, 43Johni Broome, 44Vladislav Goldin, 45Bogoljub Markovic, 46Kam Jones, 47Grant Nelson, 48Brice Williams, 49 Alex Toohey, 50Hunter Sallis, 51Jamir Watkins, 52Mark Sears, 53Eric Dixon, 54Tyrese Proctor, 55Ryan Nembhard, 56Alijah Martin 57Tamar Bates, 58Rocco Zikarsky, 59RJ Luis, 60Kobe Sanders

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    Sort of like the Mock Draft Thread but we will not know who is right until years later. It can be a full top 60, top 38, top 30, top 14, top 10 whatever you prefer. A reference point we can come back to see who evaluated this draft class best.


    My draft board is the order in which I would pick the players not necessary what I would do if I was picking for the Spurs. Also tried to come up with some nicknames and comps but I’m terrible at that. See if you can come up with better.

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    Most drafts don’t produce as many stars as people think.

    Looking back at the last 20 years, a typical class ends up with:

    Tier 1: Franchise players
    Multiple All-Star selections and elite advanced stats (WS/48 > .130 or VORP > 25)
    Average per draft: around 3 players
    Examples:
    LeBron James
    Stephen Curry
    Kawhi Leonard
    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    Nikola Jokić

    Tier 2: High-end contributors
    Maybe one-time All-Stars or long-term starters with strong metrics (WS/48 > .100 and VORP > 15)
    Average per draft: around 3 to 4 players
    Examples:
    Kyle Lowry
    Jrue Holiday
    Tobias Harris
    Jaylen Brown
    Domantas Sabonis

    Tier 3: Solid role players
    No All-Star appearances but stuck around 5 or more years as regular rotation guys
    Average per draft: around 10 players
    Examples:
    Trevor Ariza
    Courtney Lee
    Marcus Morris
    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    Monte Morris

    And the rest, usually over 40 players per draft, either had short careers or never carved out a consistent role.

    Only a few drafts like 2003, 2009, or 2018 produced a large group at the top. Most years give you a couple stars, a handful of steady contributors, and then a sharp drop-off.

    With that in mind, here’s my prediction for this upcoming draft:

    Tier 1
    Cooper Flagg
    Dylan Harper
    VJ Edgecombe

    Tier 2
    Jase Richardson
    Derik Queen
    Kon Knueppel
    Ben Saraf

    Tier 3
    Thomas Sorber
    Drake Powell
    Kasparas Jakucionis
    Tre Johnson
    Will Riley
    Malauch
    Noah Penda
    Ace Bailey
    Noa Essengue
    Demin

    And then everyone else probably won’t make it.

    A lot of people are calling this a deep draft or saying there could be something like 7 or more All-Stars. But historically that just doesn’t happen. This projection might not be perfect, but it’s grounded in how most drafts actually turn out. You get a few stars, a few more reliable contributors, and then a big falloff. That’s just the pattern.

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    Tier 1:
    1. Cooper Flagg
    Tier 2:
    2. Dylan Harper
    Tier 3:
    3. V.J Edgecombe
    4. Ace Bailey
    Tier 4:
    5. Tre Johnson
    6. Jon Knueppel
    7. Kasparas Jackucionis
    8. Liam McNeely
    9. Thomas Sorber
    10. Egor Demin
    11. Carter Bryant
    Tier 5:
    12. Jeremiah Fears
    13. Noa Essengue
    14. Shaman Maluach
    15. Rasheer Fleming
    16. Derick Queen

    17. Jase Richardson
    18. Cedric Coward
    Tier 6:
    19. Will Riley
    20. Nolan Traore
    21. Ben Saraf
    22. Maxime Raynaud
    Tier 7:
    23. Asa Newell
    24. Ryan Kalkbrenner
    25. Danny Wolf
    26. Drake Powell
    27. Walter Clayton jr
    28. Noah Penda
    29. Nique Clifford
    30. Joan Beringer

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    I tend to show my enthusiasm for a prospect one player at a time and I have no big board, but appreciate those of you that do. The #14 reveal will be fun (narrator voice spoiler: the pick was traded).

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    Year Tier 1 Tier 1 Players Tier 2 Tier 2 Players Tier 3 Tier 4
    2000 0 None 5 Hedo Türkoğlu, Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Kenyon Martin, Michael Redd 10 45
    2001 3 Pau Gasol, Tony Parker, Joe Johnson 3 Zach Randolph, Shane Battier, Gilbert Arenas 9 45
    2002 2 Yao Ming, Amar'e Stoudemire 3 Carlos Boozer, Tayshaun Prince, Caron Butler 11 44
    2003 4 LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh 5 Kirk Hinrich, Mo Williams, Boris Diaw, Kyle Korver, David West 10 41
    2004 1 Dwight Howard 4 Luol Deng, Jameer Nelson, Al Jefferson, Andre Iguodala 9 46
    2005 2 Chris Paul, Deron Williams 6 David Lee, Danny Granger, Monta Ellis, Nate Robinson, Andrew Bogut, Andrew Bynum 10 42
    2006 3 LaMarcus Aldridge, Kyle Lowry, Rajon Rondo 4 Brandon Roy, Rudy Gay, Paul Millsap, Andrea Bargnani 11 42
    2007 2 Kevin Durant, Marc Gasol 3 Mike Conley, Al Horford, Joakim Noah 9 46
    2008 3 Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love, Brook Lopez 4 Goran Dragić, Serge Ibaka, Danilo Gallinari, George Hill 10 43
    2009 5 Stephen Curry, James Harden, DeMar DeRozan, Jrue Holiday, Blake Griffin 4 Ty Lawson, Taj Gibson, Jeff Teague, Ricky Rubio 12 39

    Year Tier 1 Tier 1 Players Tier 2 Tier 2 Players Tier 3 Tier 4
    2010 2 Paul George, John Wall 4 Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, DeMarcus Cousins, Greg Monroe 10 44
    2011 4 Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, Kyrie Irving, Jimmy Butler 3 Isaiah Thomas, Tristan Thompson, Nikola Vučević 10 41
    2012 2 Anthony Davis, Damian Lillard 4 Bradley Beal, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton, Harrison Barnes 9 45
    2013 2 Giannis Antetokounmpo, Rudy Gobert 4 CJ McCollum, Dennis Schröder, Steven Adams, Otto Porter Jr. 10 44
    2014 3 Nikola Jokić, Joel Embiid, Julius Randle 5 Marcus Smart, Clint Capela, Jordan Clarkson, Bogdan Bogdanović, Zach LaVine 11 41
    2015 3 Devin Booker, Karl-Anthony Towns, Kristaps Porziņģis 3 Myles Turner, Terry Rozier, Josh Richardson 10 44
    2016 2 Jaylen Brown, Pascal Siakam 5 Malcolm Brogdon, Buddy Hield, Jakob Poeltl, Dejounte Murray, Brandon Ingram 9 44
    2017 4 Jayson Tatum, Donovan Mitc , Bam Adebayo, De'Aaron Fox 3 John Collins, Jarrett Allen, Dillon Brooks 11 42
    2018 3 Luka Dončić, Trae Young, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 4 Jaren Jackson Jr., Wendell Carter Jr., De'Anthony Melton, Mikal Bridges 10 43
    2019 1 Ja Morant 7 RJ Barrett, Cam Johnson, Coby White, Nic Claxton, Darius Garland, Tyler Herro, Zion Williamson 10 42


    Tier 1: Franchise Players
    Multiple All-Star appearances and elite advanced stats.
    Criteria: WS/48 > 0.130 or VORP > 25
    These are cornerstone players who anchor franchises.

    Tier 2: High-End Contributors
    May have one All-Star appearance or none, but were long-term starters or high-impact players.
    Criteria: WS/48 > 0.100 and VORP > 15
    Think borderline All-Stars or dependable top-3 options on a good team.

    Tier 3: Solid Role Players
    Never made an All-Star team, but had long careers as reliable contributors, rotation players, or occasional starters.
    Criteria: WS/48 > 0.050 and VORP > 5
    These players usually stayed in the league 5+ years and contributed consistently.

    Tier 4: The Rest
    Players who had short careers, limited roles, or didn’t stick in the league.

    Credit to ChatGPT for the tables.
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    2025 Scottspurs NBA Draft Board


    Tier 1 (Franchise Player):


    Cooper Flagg


    Tier 2 (All-NBA):


    Dylan Harper


    Tier 3 (All-Star):


    Tre Johnson
    Kasparas Jakucionis
    Derik Queen
    VJ Edgecombe


    Tier 4 (High End Starter):


    Cedric Coward (if health checks out)
    Kon Knueppel
    Ace Bailey
    Thomas Sorber (if health checks out)
    Nique Clifford


    Tier 5 (Starter/Projects):


    Nolan Traore
    Ben Saraf
    Egor Demin
    Jeremiah Fears
    Khaman Maluach
    Noah Penda
    Rasheer Fleming


    Tier 6 (Bench/projects):


    Jase Richardson
    Asa Newell
    Maxime Raynaud
    Walter Clayton Jr.
    Carter Bryant
    Joan Beringer
    Liam Mcneely
    Collin Murray-Boyles
    Will Riley
    Adou Thiero


    Tier 7 (Bench/Developmental):


    Noa Essengue
    Hugo Gonzalez
    Danny Wolf
    Sion James
    Hansen Yang
    Drake Powell
    John Tonje
    Micah Peavy
    Koby Brea
    Chaz Lanier
    Yanic Konan Niederhauser
    Ryan Kalkbrenner
    Johni Broome
    Vladislav Goldin


    Tier 8 (Roster Filler/two-way)


    Rocco Zikarsky
    Bogoljub Markovic
    Kam Jones
    Grant Nelson
    Brice Williams
    Alex Toohey
    Hunter Sallis
    Jamir Watkins
    Mark Sears
    Eric Dixon
    Tyrese Proctor
    Ryan Nembhard
    Alijah Martin
    Javon Small
    Tamar Bates
    Kobe Sanders
    RJ Luis
    Dink Pate
    Jalon Moore
    Jaxson Robinson


    Tier 9 (draft and stash):


    Mo Diawara- draft and stash
    Saliou Niang - draft and stash
    Eli John Ndiaye - draft and stash


    Tier 10 (super long shots/camp invites/summer league roster):


    Payton Sandfort
    Max Shulga
    Lachlan Olbrich
    Kobe Johnson
    Cameron Matthews
    Amari Williams
    Viktor Lakhin
    LJ Cryer
    RJ Felton
    Sean Pedulla
    Dylan Cardwell
    Lamont Butler
    John Poulakidas




















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    Flagg - halfway between Franz + AD + better 3

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    Harper


    3.1 - Tre
    yup I'm fully bought in. His defense sucks, driving ability sucks, rebounds like a small guard, but the ability to get off shots at volume and shotmaking ability are so OP that I'm willing to overlook all that. If Malik Monk traded athleticism for size, also produced similar numbers with a worse team in a better conference so could absolutely see him dropping some 40 bombs on efficiency in the playoffs in the future

    3.2 - Maluach
    peak Roy Hibbert had legitimate DPOY impact rivaling Gobert but his issues were stone hands, lead feet, and Paul George ing his SO. Maluach doesn't really suffer from any of the aforementioned issues. High level movement relative to size with late development and a frisky shooting sample size in BAL. If you can get Hibbert defense + Brook Lopez offense, that's an amazing starting center.

    3.3 - VJ
    long way to go before he reaches prospect Oladipo, but I didn't watch Oladipo as an underclassman. Physical attributes are all mismatched relative to his skill - doesn't have the length/strength to be a true lockdown guy, but doesn't have the touch/handle to fully leverage his explosive athleticism on offense. Rim finishing and strength is a planet away from freshman Ant. Still, plays with effort and has a decent jumper, so will almost definitely be highly useful in a playoff setting.

    3.4 - Kon
    I wanted to see Desmond Bane so bad but i don't think he's got the ball skills or functional athleticism to do it. Great shotmaking in EYBL and more well rounded than Tre, but he might struggle just as much to get shots off. Definitely better than Luke Kennard, worse than Bane. That's probably a 10 year starter at the next level.

    4.1 - Carter Bryant
    https://100guaranteed.substack.com/p...ed-a-fit-check
    Basically, given both functional and raw movement characteristics in combination with his shot projection, he has a chance to be one of the premier off-ball wings in the league. If you compare him with other similar wings in the class, he's younger and with a more projectable shot than Fleming, puts up higher 3 point volume and generates defensive events better than Powell, and projects as a better defensive event generator than Coward while being over 2 years younger.

    4.2 Ace
    I'm too much of a pussy to have him any lower. Wish he could get like CBT or something to change his mindset and shot diet, because the potential for super-Jaden McDaniels is absolutely there between his tactical skill and physical characteristics and that's an easy 35+ million/year player or third best player on a le team.

    4.3 Sorber
    Would I feel good about getting a healthier Wendell Carter Jr level guy in the back of the lottery? Yeah, I think I'd feel pretty good about that. I feel great about his passing at the next level, and terrible about his finishing.

    4.4 Queen
    The tape is just so good offensively. Doesn't play like too many bigs I've ever seen, it's like if you made a guard bigger, stronger, and slower. Closest comp for me is smaller, slower Joel Embiid. Can you make him give a on defense? If you could he'd probably be top 5 but since you probably can't this is just a hedge.

    5.1-3
    CMB, Essengue, Adou Thiero
    Zero s given about shooting
    But seriously, I think all three of these guys have enough upside that I'm willing to overlook the shooting. All three are bets on high level movement scaled to size + high level production scaled to age

    CMB - honestly, if he showed a projectable 3 point jumper I'd have him 3rd. One of the most scheme versatile defenders to come along in the last few years, strength + elite hand-eye coordination + high level feel and instincts gives him legitimate defensive hub potential. Offensively a better than advertised handle and good hands gives him outs as a strength based creator. Was really hoping for a 7'2+ wingspan but came in less than expected, although the vertical was better than I thought. The shot is just so, so bad that I'm not sure I can completely get there. 80th percentile outcome = Paul Millsap, one of the most underrated PFs in history

    Essengue
    https://x.com/Flawlesslikeeli/status...95694229127461

    Thiero
    I think he might honestly be more athletic than VJ especially if you factor in strength. Functionally he leverages that strength in his driving and rim finishing. I think he also might be the best perimeter defender in the class. His shooting is probably the most broken considering his position, but when functionally athletic wings with ball skills hit, they really hit. Can he be poor man's Ausar Thompson? He's got the same dimensions and his athleticism is not top 0.1% but maybe top 1%. Feel is probably not as good, but his jumper is less broken since he's been shooting 45% on midrange over the last 2 years and started off in high school playing point guard before he grew like 8 inches.

    5.4 Coward
    I barely know anything about him other than the fact that he's probably going to shoot well and he has a 7'2" wingspan. Apparently he has "potential to defend" even though he had a negative dBPM against low-major compe ion last year. But who's to say? Jalen Wells also projected as a similar poor defender coming out and he was Memphis' best perimeter defender this year. Jalen Williams also had major defensive concerns coming out. Let's just take a leap of faith and stick him here.

    5.5 KJ
    Really question the ability to create an advantage against a set defense, turnovers are a major problem. But the stepback looked money before his injury, he's bigger than what I expected from the combine, and he's still very very young

    5.6 Kalkbrenner
    7'6" wingspan, 7'1" height, 9'4" standing reach with 4 years worth of high level 2FG defense and elite play finishing efficiency. Pretty good bet to be better than Luke Kornet

    5.7 Jase
    5.8 Walter Clayton Jr

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    A few changes over the past few weeks:

    Tier 1:
    1. Cooper Flagg
    Tier 2:
    2. Dylan Harper
    Tier 3:
    3. V.J Edgecombe
    4. Tre Johnson
    5. Jon Knueppel
    Tier 4;
    6. Noa Essengue
    7. Ace Bailey
    8. Kasparas Jackucionis
    9. Egor Demin
    10. Liam McNeely
    Tier 5:
    11. Thomas Sorber
    12. Jeremiah Fears
    13. Carter Bryant
    14. Shaman Maluach
    15. Rasheer Fleming
    16. Derick Queen
    Tier 6:
    17. Jase Richardson
    18. Joan Beringer
    19. Cedric Coward
    20. Will Riley
    Tier 7:
    21. Nolan Traore
    22. Ben Saraf
    23. Maxime Raynaud
    24. Nique Clifford
    25. Drake Powell
    Tier 8:
    26. Asa Newell
    27. Danny Wolf
    28. Ryan Kalkbrenner
    29. Walter Clayton jr
    30. Noah Penda

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    I still don’t get why folks have tiers going up to seven when there’s only really four real outcomes for players in any given draft like I explained above: franchise, running mates, long-term role player, and single contract players. It feels like a cop out to list more than these tiers- like we’re afraid to be wrong. Oh well.

    here’s my final big board that uses the tier system that matches reality:

    Tier 1 - franchise - max three players
    Cooper Flagg
    Dylan Harper
    VJ Edgecombe

    Tier 2 - running mates - max four players
    Jase Richardson
    Derik Queen
    Kon Knueppel
    Ben Saraf

    Tier 3 - long-term role players - max 10 players
    Thomas Sorber
    Drake Powell
    Kasparas Jakucionis
    Tre Johnson
    Cedric Coward
    Malauch
    Noah Penda
    Carter Bryant
    CMB
    Demin

    Tier 4 - single contract players - everyone else I didn’t list

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    I already posted my board but this is the order in which I want the spurs to pick them:

    Pick 2:
    Harper no matter what

    pick 14:
    Queen
    Sorber
    Coward
    Clifford

    These are the picks that would make me most excited. The rest I’m not sure how I will feel until it happens but exciting won’t be it. So if you want me to shorten my board this is it. The fantastic Five

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    I still don’t get why folks have tiers going up to seven when there’s only really four real outcomes for players in any given draft like I explained above: franchise, running mates, long-term role player, and single contract players. It feels like a cop out to list more than these tiers- like we’re afraid to be wrong. Oh well.
    Because they are using tiers differently than you. You are putting guys into buckets, but mo's tiers (for example) are to establish breaks in talent to where you can choose for the right fit. For mo, if you are picking 11, and all the guys in tiers 1-4 are gone... he is saying you can pick anyone in tier 5 and feel good about it, but you'd never pick a tier 6 guy over a tier 5 guy.

    That logic certainly doesn't apply to the way you are using tiers, because there would be no justification in picking Edgecombe over Flagg, even though you have them in the same tier.

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    Because they are using tiers differently than you. You are putting guys into buckets, but mo's tiers (for example) are to establish breaks in talent to where you can choose for the right fit. For mo, if you are picking 11, and all the guys in tiers 1-4 are gone... he is saying you can pick anyone in tier 5 and feel good about it, but you'd never pick a tier 6 guy over a tier 5 guy.

    That logic certainly doesn't apply to the way you are using tiers, because there would be no justification in picking Edgecombe over Flagg, even though you have them in the same tier.
    Fair point. I actually want to adjust mine a little bit. I’m not so confident VJ is a guy you build around, so I’m moving him down (which has a domino effect because I’m at my max in each tier)

    Tier 1 - franchise - max three players
    Cooper Flagg
    Dylan Harper


    Tier 2 - running mates - max four players
    Jase Richardson
    Derik Queen
    Kon Knueppel
    VJ Edgecombe

    Tier 3 - long-term role players - max 10 players
    Thomas Sorber
    Drake Powell
    Kasparas Jakucionis
    Tre Johnson
    Cedric Coward
    Malauch
    Noah Penda
    Carter Bryant
    Ben Saraf
    Demin

    Tier 4 - single contract players - everyone else I didn’t list

    Moved Ben Saraf down to Tier 3, took out CMB.

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    Spurs version (includes where they were picked):

    Tier 1 – Franchise Players
    Kawhi Leonard (15)
    Victor Wembanyama (1)
    Tim Duncan (1)
    David Robinson (1)

    Tier 2 – Running Mates
    Dejounte Murray (29)
    Derrick White (29)
    Stephon Castle (4) – projection
    Tony Parker (28)
    Manu Ginóbili (57)
    Sean Elliott (3)

    Tier 3 – Long-Term Role Players
    Tre Jones (41)
    Jeremy Sochan (9)
    Keldon Johnson (29)
    George Hill (26)
    Devin Vassell (11)
    Kyle Anderson (30)
    Cory Joseph (29)

    Tier 4 – Single Contract Players
    James Anderson (20)
    Ryan Richards (49)
    Adam Hanga (59)
    Marcus Denmon (59)
    Livio Jean‑Charles (28)
    Deshaun Thomas (58)
    Jordan McRae (58)
    Cady Lalanne (55)
    Nikola Milutinov (26)
    Josh Primo (12)
    Joe Wieskamp (41)
    Blake Wesley (25)
    Kennedy Chandler (38)
    Malaki Branham (20)
    Juan Núñez (36)
    Harrison Ingram (48)
    Last edited by Dejounte; 06-25-2025 at 01:35 AM.

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    I still don’t get why folks have tiers going up to seven when there’s only really four real outcomes for players in any given draft like I explained above: franchise, running mates, long-term role player, and single contract players. It feels like a cop out to list more than these tiers- like we’re afraid to be wrong. Oh well.

    here’s my final big board that uses the tier system that matches reality:

    Tier 1 - franchise - max three players
    Cooper Flagg
    Dylan Harper
    VJ Edgecombe

    Tier 2 - running mates - max four players
    Jase Richardson
    Derik Queen
    Kon Knueppel
    Ben Saraf

    Tier 3 - long-term role players - max 10 players
    Thomas Sorber
    Drake Powell
    Kasparas Jakucionis
    Tre Johnson
    Cedric Coward
    Malauch
    Noah Penda
    Carter Bryant
    CMB
    Demin

    Tier 4 - single contract players - everyone else I didn’t list
    Edit- I just saw Scott explain my rationale in more detail than I just did lol, so I'm gonna let that description stand.

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