2025 NBA Draft

[baseline bum]

Agreed on Harper for Giannis. I have to look up Fleming. I'm in the dark on him.

He's a PF who shoots the three really well and has a ridiculous 7'5" wingspan, only an inch short of Sorber's. Don't know why he's mocked so low. Sorber's foot injury scares me a bit but the Spurs will have detailed medicals on him so if they like what they see I wouldn't be mad taking him 14.

[LeBowen]

Don't know why he's mocked so low.

I was just about to ask this because I don't really watch college ball.

Fleming: 6'8.25 with 7'5.25 wingspan and 9'1 standing reach.
Coward: 6'5.25 with 7'2.25 wingspan and 8'10 standing reach.

Fleming is a year younger.

Fleming shot 39% from 3pt on 4.5 attempts this year. Idk if it's a fluke or legit improvement because he shot 32% on 3 attempts a year before.
Coward was at 40% on 5 attempts and was always a legit shooter.

Apparently Fleming has no handles whatsoever and would be an exclusively spot up shooter or cutter on offense. But with his size, do we even need more considering our roster?

As I said, I got no clue, maybe Coward and Bryant have higher all-round potential, but I'd honestly be happy with any 3-D wing that turns out to be a servicable player.
If we're talking player comps, I'd say that it would be great if we could get a Jaden McDaniels level player with #14.

[baseline bum]

I was just about to ask this because I don't really watch college ball.

Fleming: 6'8.25 with 7'5.25 wingspan and 9'1 standing reach.
Coward: 6'5.25 with 7'2.25 wingspan and 8'10 standing reach.

Fleming is a year younger.

Fleming shot 39% from 3pt on 4.5 attempts this year. Idk if it's a fluke or legit improvement because he shot 32% on 3 attempts a year before.
Coward was at 40% on 5 attempts and was always a legit shooter.

Apparently Fleming has no handles whatsoever and would be an exclusively spot up shooter or cutter on offense. But with his size, do we even need more considering our roster?

As I said, I got no clue, maybe Coward and Bryant have higher all-round potential, but I'd honestly be happy with any 3-D wing that turns out to be a servicable player.
If we're talking player comps, I'd say that it would be great if we could get a Jaden McDaniels level player with #14.

Yeah I'm interested to see if the Spurs take Coward too. Seems like a great fit on paper. Would be wild if Sorber and Coward are both there at 14 and then OKC can get one of them at 15. But I'd like to see how desperate Brooklyn is to move up and stockpiling picks would be sweet, especially if a Giannis trade materializes this season. Feels like the Spurs could have a lot of interesting options at 14.

[bigzak25]

He's a PF who shoots the three really well and has a ridiculous 7'5" wingspan, only an inch short of Sorber's. Don't know why he's mocked so low. Sorber's foot injury scares me a bit but the Spurs will have detailed medicals on him so if they like what they see I wouldn't be mad taking him 14.

Cool. Then him and.Sochan can compete for starting SF.

[Mugen]

Cool. Then him and.Sochan can compete for starting SF.

Sochan as a SF tbh

[Ariel]

I was just about to ask this because I don't really watch college ball.

Fleming: 6'8.25 with 7'5.25 wingspan and 9'1 standing reach.
Coward: 6'5.25 with 7'2.25 wingspan and 8'10 standing reach.

Fleming is a year younger.

Fleming shot 39% from 3pt on 4.5 attempts this year. Idk if it's a fluke or legit improvement because he shot 32% on 3 attempts a year before.
Coward was at 40% on 5 attempts and was always a legit shooter.

Apparently Fleming has no handles whatsoever and would be an exclusively spot up shooter or cutter on offense. But with his size, do we even need more considering our roster?

As I said, I got no clue, maybe Coward and Bryant have higher all-round potential, but I'd honestly be happy with any 3-D wing that turns out to be a servicable player.
If we're talking player comps, I'd say that it would be great if we could get a Jaden McDaniels level player with #14.

Fleming cannot put the ball on the floor, he's strictly an off ball player, a stretch 4 with crazy length and hustle and a one year sample of being able to shoot it. If you believe the shot is real he's definitely an interesting option in the late teens onwards, otherwise he might be unplayable. Coward on the other hand is a proven shooter who can post up, put the ball on the floor, and pass some. He has his own question marks (health, lateral mobility may not be great) but his floor is higher.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Pop made him a promise?

Is the Ace Bailey behaviour the execution of the CIA Pop plan to get him to drop to 14? If so, we probably get the child molestation rumor coming out any time now...for Ace, not Pop.

[picnroll]

Vecenie on his youtube update on trades and draft rumors said there’s lots of noise about the Spurs tring to get up to draft Maluach.

[Mr. Body]

Vecenie on his youtube update on trades and draft rumors said there’s lots of noise about the Spurs tring to get up to draft Maluach.

I believe this less and less, lol. We'll see.

[LeBowen]

Vecenie on his youtube update on trades and draft rumors said there’s lots of noise about the Spurs tring to get up to draft Maluach.

And what would be a realistic trade for him?
He's not getting past the Raptors at #9, meaning we'd have to deal with either them or Pelicans at #7.
Maybe even some complex trade where Nets move up to #3, Sixers down to #8 and then trade with us after that.

[picnroll]

And what would be a realistic trade for him?
He's not getting past the Raptors at #9, meaning we'd have to deal with either them or Pelicans at #7.
Maybe even some complex trade where Nets move up to #3, Sixers down to #8 and then trade with us after that.

No idea. I don’t even see the fit particularly for the asset dump it would probably take to move up high enough. Just what Vecenie said, believe he attributed a lot of the noise to David Aldridge who he highly respects.

[SpursFan86]

Re: Maluach…seems like these are the possibilities:

1) Spurs are intentionally letting these rumors out to use as a smokescreen to hide who they’re actually targeting

2) The rumors are totally made up, or other teams are putting the info out there to throw others off

3) The Spurs have a leak in their camp and legitimately are targeting him

Personally I think option 3 is by far the least likely of the 3…but guess we’ll see. I would be shocked if we moved up for Maluach.

[RC_Drunkford]

Re: Maluach…seems like these are the possibilities:

1) Spurs are intentionally letting these rumors out to use as a smokescreen to hide who they’re actually targeting

2) The rumors are totally made up, or other teams are putting the info out there to throw others off

3) The Spurs have a leak in their camp and legitimately are targeting him

Personally I think option 3 is by far the least likely of the 3…but guess we’ll see. I would be shocked if we moved up for Maluach.

4. Spurs have talked with teams in the top 10 about potential trades and they are leaking it

[spurraider21]

i hope its just a smokescreen to try to goad other teams into drafting or trading up for bigs to allow one of bryant/coward to make it to 14

but i dno, last year it seemed like a pretty poorly kept secret that the spurs coveted Castlye. the only smokescreen was the thing of Devin Carter playing well against him in workouts, but that didnt stop every mock under the sun from having Castle go to us at 4 (as long as they were normal mocks with risacher/sheppard going top 3)

[picnroll]

Re: Maluach…seems like these are the possibilities:

1) Spurs are intentionally letting these rumors out to use as a smokescreen to hide who they’re actually targeting

2) The rumors are totally made up, or other teams are putting the info out there to throw others off Maluach made two visits and it was said he’d only make the second visit if the Spurs were seriously interested. So unless he thought he might fall to 14 that doesn’t add up.

3) The Spurs have a leak in their camp and legitimately are targeting him

Personally I think option 3 is by far the least likely of the 3…but guess we’ll see. I would be shocked if we moved up for Maluach.

Only thing that contradicts those hypothesis is that Maluach made two visits and it’s said he only wanted to make the second visit if the Spurs had a serious interested. So either he thought he might still be there at 14 or Spurs indicated they’d try to move up to get him.

Edit: Or god forbid they were thinking of trading out of 2.

[LeBowen]

It's not easy to move up without overpaying. There are a lot of teams that want to move up, ones with more available assets like the Spurs will need to pay move for someone to accept their offer.
Last year Minnesota was desperate for some reason and Wright bent them over.

If there's a fair deal to be made it should be done, but it's not likely.

The only top8 teams that could trade down are Pelicans and Sixers.
We don't really have to offer anything to the Pelicans that wouldn't be an overpay and Sixers scenario would work only if we take that disgusting PG contract, which I wouldn't do no matter what.

[cd98]

Yes, a fair question is if you have the 14th pick and you want a pick in the 7-10 range, what is the cost to move up? You wouldn't do a future first. Would multiple 2nds be enough? Trading a player is hard because then you have to match salaries, etc. I'll be curious to see what the Spurs have to pay if they do move up from 14.

[mo7888]

Yes, a fair question is if you have the 14th pick and you want a pick in the 7-10 range, what is the cost to move up? You wouldn't do a future first. Would multiple 2nds be enough? Trading a player is hard because then you have to match salaries, etc. I'll be curious to see what the Spurs have to pay if they do move up from 14.

It's future 1st's and/or taking back a bad contract

[BatManu20]

[DesignatedT]

Who's in the 20's that may want to move up to 14? Could see it making sense to move back to 25 range to take Reyanud/Kalkbrenner and maybe get a future 1st or pick swap out of someone.

[Dverde]

I feel like #14 being a combo guard is the ultimate troll move.

[BatManu20]

[baseline bum]

Tre Johnson at 8 seems nuts. I'd probably take him 4 in Charlotte. And LOL Phoenix taking Queen if Jaku is still in the board.

[LeBowen]

Good , Playoff P is just the man we need in Atlanta to make those picks more valuable.

But they don't really have anything to offer other than Porzingis and Okongwu assuming Jalen Johnson, Risacher and Dyson Daniels are safe.

[Leetonidas]

ATL not ing around

PG kinda sucks though