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Ehh I think Fleming, Kalkbrenner and Raynaud are the only 3 guys that have plus value. Doubt any of the 3 make it to pick 38 anyway. If the Spurs want one of those guys they can still go get them.
I don't understand trading that 2nd round pick so early before seeing who was even available.
Ehh I think Fleming, Kalkbrenner and Raynaud are the only 3 guys that have plus value. Doubt any of the 3 make it to pick 38 anyway. If the Spurs want one of those guys they can still go get them.
That move sure earns the Westbrook reaction face. You don’t leave money on the table like that not knowing what opportunities still available. Unless the offer was better before the Draft.
The Spurs have 4 2nd round picks next year. If they trade 2 of them for pick 34 that would be great. You effectively improve 4 places to get your guy and move one of the 4 picks next year to 2030 for the cost of 1 second round pick. No one would say it was a bad trade if they traded 38 plus a 2026 SRP for 34 and then traded a 2026 SRP for a 2030 SRP to reduce the 2026 surplus. Plus whatever cash was involved.
The problem with the trade wasn’t necessarily the value it was the premature nature of it
The Spurs have the MIN30 swap, but that's too much to give up for just #31. I don't think future seconds would do it either because why would MIN give up the best possible second round pick for ones that couldn't possibly be any better?
?? They wouldn’t be getting 38 back, they’d probably trade into the range of those players.
Still a bad move. They jumped the gun, could have waited until today to see what was still on the table. Even if they decided to trade it that pick is a lot more valuable today than it was yesterday.
No one good is dropping to 38, so they were right to get out of that pick. They’ll probably try to re-enter in the 31-33 range.
Atlanta did trade their pick to New Orleans for the NO pick, plus a future pick.ChatTimvp
Spurs got really lucky with Bryant, but at the cost of Sorber. #13 pick would’ve been the perfect opportunity to give Hawks back their future pick, and grabbed both Carter and Sorber.
Harper - A
Bryant - A
Trading 2nd round before the Draft started - F. You don’t leave money on the table, not knowing what the future holds.
Overall grade B. I think there was opportunity also to grab Sorber if Hawks was open to trading their pick #13.
CHA owns 33 and 34. I would imagine one of those could be had.
I’m thinking they evaluated the talent, and decided that it tailed off well before 38.
I think he's saying the Spurs should have offered the Hawks one of their picks back to take Atlanta's 2025 #13 before they traded it to NO. If they got in before NO got in on it, maybe the Hawks would have considered it?
Spurs could have then used it to draft both Bryant and Sorber, or who knows, maybe NO call and offer the same deal to the Spurs for either 13 or 14. In hindsight, would have been a good move if NO offered the Spurs the same offer.
My thinking as well. Maybe unload 2 SRPs (and the cash they just received) to jump up a few spots.
He seemed like he wanted both Bryant, and Sorber. So, with not swapping, the price would have been two other FRPs, because NO gave them two, including their pick in this draft. I also think ATL is probably pissed at our position that they’re not getting their picks back. The price might have been higher than they charged NO.
Spurs are full of player to develop, trading the #38 is a good move, no need to have another one.
I like Bryant pick because he can contribute without having the ball in his hands... and with Harper, castle, Fox and Wemby that's a lot of high usage players to accomodate tbh
Exactly Hawks was trading that #13 pick. What would’ve taken to get it and grab both Carter and Sorber? ATL picks back? Those are becoming garbage, but not to ATL who are Trae injury away from back to mediocrity. Harper, Bryant and Sorber plus using ATL garbage picks in the process would be huge
Yeah, fair enough. Not as simple as he made it seem.
It really is so fascinating to watch NBA development over a long period of time. On draft day in 2018, the vast majority of scouts and analysts thought Doncic was a bigger prize than SGA. After their first year, Doncic wins ROY by a large margin, and then finishes 4th in the MVP vote in just his second season-- and after years 1, 2, 3, & 4 he's the obvious choice... but fast forward to year 7 for both of them, and SGA is MVP of the league and is celebrating his first championship (albeit with a much better team than Luka), and now if the Lakers offered a trade between the two, OKC almost certainly says no thanks. This is why so many people love the NBA. The unfolding drama is endless, and the character development through the years is as interesting as in any great novel.
To add to that, last year Mavs beat the OKC without much trouble, but certain things happened and they weren't in position to give it another go.
Mavs fans have every reason to be upset because this could've been their year, both Nuggets and Pacers have shown OKC were far from a perfect roster.
And to add to that, Dallas falls on the greatest imaginable good luck, landing the #1 pick with a 1.8% chance, and gets to fulfill Nico's wish of building a defensive minded team by adding Flagg! But I think this also shows that as a GM, you've got to make the most of unforeseen opportunities. Presti is good at his job, but one could argue that the best day in recent Thunder history was the day Paul George demanded a trade to the Clippers.
Demin and Coward went higher than most expected, so it’s not a stretch to say that Carter Bryant went lower than expected
Agreed another example that illustrates your point is the 2009 NBA draft. Blake Griffin and James Harden were drafted a lot higher than Stephen Curry and were better players than him from '09-'14 and then after '14 Curry leapfrogs both players as the best player from that draft.
And Curry was drafted behind two other PGs in Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn!
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