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    I like Yabusele, but what the do you do with a rotation of Sochan/Barnes/Yabu/Champagnie/Bryant for the SF/PF slots? Just give everyone 15 mpg and hope someone forces you to play them more because they’re playing surprisingly well? Guess Vassell will have to play the 3 a decent amount, but still. Just seems so messy.
    a) you have to have 15 people on the roster even if you're never going to have a 15 man rotation. better to have good ones than bad ones, and you can always flip good players. and we shouldnt just assume bryant will have rotation minutes. or that champ will compete for PF mintues. introduce compe ion and good things will happen

    b) barnes is expiring this year. keldon probably should be traded but dno if the team is leaning that way. its unclear what sochan's future is. you sign yabu to a 2 year deal and suddenly you have insurance at PF for next year with that uncertainty

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    So unless we make some other changes our roster will almost be set and full…

    Wemby/Kornet
    Barnes/Sochan
    Dev/KJ/Carter
    Castle/Julian/Branham
    Fox/Harper/Wesley

    That leaves 2 spots, Mamu? Bassey? Another FA?
    Still work to do in my view.

    They need to upgrade the Barnes position if they intend to start Dev at SF and bench Sochan. It would also be great to upgrade the Champaigne position, but he’s good value.

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    The only two guys left that interest me are Yabusele and Prince (barely).

    I’d be ok with giving Yabu the full BAE for 2 years so 2/$10M or 3 years and the remaining MLE which looked about 3/$13M.

    Don’t think we need smaller No defense shooters like Kennard, Hardaway when we already have Vassell and Champ.
    Now that we have our backup C, need #1, #2, #3 and #infinity is shooting. 8 out of 10 rotation players are below average to horrible 3 pt shooters. If we don't add shooting, we are going straight back to the lottery once again.

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    a) you have to have 15 people on the roster even if you're never going to have a 15 man rotation. better to have good ones than bad ones, and you can always flip good players. and we shouldnt just assume bryant will have rotation minutes. or that champ will compete for PF mintues. introduce compe ion and good things will happen

    b) barnes is expiring this year. keldon probably should be traded but dno if the team is leaning that way. its unclear what sochan's future is. you sign yabu to a 2 year deal and suddenly you have insurance at PF for next year with that uncertainty
    Yeah, the point of my post I guess was just that a consolidation move makes so much sense. I’m not saying we shouldn’t add Yabu - I think getting him on a reasonable deal for the BAE or whatever is totally fine.

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    Still work to do in my view.

    They need to upgrade the Barnes position if they intend to start Dev at SF and bench Sochan. It would also be great to upgrade the Champaigne position, but he’s good value.
    Why are you talking about upgrading Barnes and Champagnie's positions, but not Keldon's? By far, our worst rotation player?

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    Man, people in here acting like NAW going to ATL just shifted the entire balance of power in the NBA. What am I missing here? Seems like a decent little backup who can occasionally start if someones injured, but beyond that i'm not seeing it. The money seems right for a capable backup, but not a fleece by any measure by the Hawks.

    That being said, I would gladly take NAW @ $16m per over Vassell @ $27m per.

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    Why are you talking about upgrading Barnes and Champagnie's positions, but not Keldon's? By far, our worst rotation player?
    Disagree. Keldon is by far better than Champagnie - just not for the $.

    I'm good w/ Keldon or Vassel being trade bait for a 3-D PF (even one who's a clear backup). The obvious problem w/ both Keldon and Vassel is they play the most common position in the NBA and neither is worth their salary. Let's consider that we're "stuck" with both. Who can we trade to get our missing pieces...

    Champagnie and Sochan.

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    We just need a shooter now. Wanted Kennard too bad though.

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    Watford signing could mean 6ers losing Yabusele

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    Hawks and Rockets made some moves! All I know is Spurs getting a sharpshooter would be perfect. IDK who's available

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    Disagree. Keldon is by far better than Champagnie - just not for the $.

    I'm good w/ Keldon or Vassel being trade bait for a 3-D PF (even one who's a clear backup). The obvious problem w/ both Keldon and Vassel is they play the most common position in the NBA and neither is worth their salary. Let's consider that we're "stuck" with both. Who can we trade to get our missing pieces...

    Champagnie and Sochan.
    That's not what the metrics indicate.

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    Hawks and Rockets made some moves! All I know is Spurs getting a sharpshooter would be perfect. IDK who's available
    Duncan. Robinson.

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    Why are you talking about upgrading Barnes and Champagnie's positions, but not Keldon's? By far, our worst rotation player?
    Basically I’m looking at the position, less the player. Keldon’s days starting are over, and Barnes isn’t the answer at starting PF. Btw I think he needs to cycle off the team too.

    You can see a world where Bryant and Sochan ARE the solution next to Wemby, but Bryant will need time.

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    Man, people in here acting like NAW going to ATL just shifted the entire balance of power in the NBA. What am I missing here? Seems like a decent little backup who can occasionally start if someones injured, but beyond that i'm not seeing it. The money seems right for a capable backup, but not a fleece by any measure by the Hawks.

    That being said, I would gladly take NAW @ $16m per over Vassell @ $27m per.
    Adding Porzingis/NAW/Kennard + got very good value with Asa Newell in the draft + got NOP’s 2026 FRP which could be juicy. They’re not a top 3 team in the league or anything but their outlook is totally different now vs. a few weeks ago when we were all salivating at the idea of having their picks the next couple of years. The fact they’re in the East obviously helps too.

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    leave it to ST to pine for a player, then assume that player won't get signed, then about the signing when it happens (before even knowing all the details of the contract).
    True.

    It’s only a couple of posters, though, and they about everything anyway.

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    Duncan. Robinson.
    He made 18 mil though. What you think his market is, about the same amount? Can we afford it?

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    He made 18 mil though. What you think his market is, about the same amount? Can we afford it?
    S&T

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    If it works out, he'd be a great get.

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    If it works out, he'd be a great get.
    I agree

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    He made 18 mil though. What you think his market is, about the same amount? Can we afford it?
    No way he gets a new deal starting at 18M, but obviously he doesn’t opt out either without some plan to sign a multi year deal for more overall money. He’s probably got something already lined up with Miami, but if not he’d be an interesting target for sure.

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    Basically I’m looking at the position, less the player. Keldon’s days starting are over, and Barnes isn’t the answer at starting PF. Btw I think he needs to cycle off the team too.

    You can see a world where Bryant and Sochan ARE the solution next to Wemby, but Bryant will need time.
    Barnes and Vassell are the only above average 3 pt shooters we have in the entire roster. You would be surprised how little we would improve by replacing them. The quickest and easiest way to improve is to erase from the rotation the only player that doesn't add anything of value at any side of the floor (aka: Keldon), with someone that improves our biggest weakness (e.i: shooting).

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    Shout out to the hamster tonight. Solid work.

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    PHI reporter confirmed yabusele is gone after they signed trendon watford



    please denver. don't steal him and condemn us to another year of watching sochan/barnes at PF

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    We deeeeep thouggghhhhh

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