For real this time, Keldon Johnson needs to go ASAP

[TimmyBuckets]

Utah wants to get rid of Collins, I wonder if they would take on Keldon's contract if we attach some 2nd rounders.

Fox-----------------Harper
Castle-------------Champagnie
Vassell-----------Sochan
Collins------------Barnes
Wemby-----------Kornet

You would be adressing two needs here: better shooting and more size at the PF position.

I mean no one here's going to say no to that deal loll. That would be an insane fleecing. They're going to want a first rounder at least though I think, but if not then perfect. Starting Center/PF in Collins and PF/Center in Wemby.

[DAF86]

I mean no one here's going to say no to that deal loll. That would be an insane fleecing. They're going to want a first rounder at least though I think, but if not then perfect. Starting Center/PF in Collins and PF/Center in Wemby.

Ainge has been giving away talent for virtually nothing this offseason, tbh.

[Extra Stout]

Keldon is hot garbage and would require draft assets to unload unless he is salary ballast in a bigger deal. There are no trades where the Spurs get to dump a poor-shooting traffic cone for a valuable rotation player.

[scott]

Ainge has been giving away talent for virtually nothing this offseason, tbh.

I think most people (save for a few) would be down for that deal... but again I wonder if Ainge would be. In the Sexton deal, they took back expiring money. They may not want to add anything on the books for the summer of 26, when by my estimation they can open up anywhere from $65-80MM of cap space (though I'm not sure there will actually be any FA worth chasing). Are they willing to put a $17MM dent in that for a couple of SRPs?

[RC_Drunkford]

I don’t even necessarily think Keldon is some terrible player, but it’s just obvious at this point he isn’t really needed on this team.

Between Vassell/Champagnie/Sochan/Barnes/Bryant the vast majority of minutes at the 3/4 are taken. It seems decently likely we add Yabusele. What’s the point of keeping Keldon? At this point I’d move him for pretty much anything as even just getting rid of his contract would be a positive. Those other guys all have their calling cards, but what is Keldon’s strength that we’d sorely miss if he got moved?

emotional leadership. And I'm not even joking. That's what the Spurs FO would probably tell you if you ask them.

Utah wants to get rid of Collins, I wonder if they would take on Keldon's contract if we attach some 2nd rounders.

Fox-----------------Harper
Castle-------------Champagnie
Vassell-----------Sochan
Collins------------Barnes
Wemby-----------Kornet

You would be adressing two needs here: better shooting and more size at the PF position.

Will Hardy loves Keldon. If there's one coach in the league who would want Keldon on his roster, it's him.

[ambchang]

The Spurs have a history of doing just that, tbh.

Show me a season where they played a full bench lineup any meaningful minutes. I struggle to find one.

[eric365]

Even at the cost of a pick, he has to go
We need shooting and let the ball to Harper in the second unit

[Ariel]

Spurs should have pushed to include him in the Fox deal, I think one of Sacramento or Chicago would have taken him. Same thing for Vassell, it was sold as a coup that the Spurs managed to get Fox without giving up either Vassell or Keldon, but if Sacramento or Chicago saw any of them as positive value, they should have been included rather than some of the picks. I'd rather have Nickeil Alexander-Walker at 16 million a year than Vassell at 27 TBH.

[kobyz]

i just don't get why he's not transforming his game to a Lu Dort type

[DAF86]

Show me a season where they played a full bench lineup any meaningful minutes. I struggle to find one.

Every year of the beatiful basketball and pretty much every year from that moment onwards. There's always at least a moment where the 5 subs share the court.

[DAF86]

i just don't get why he's not transforming his game to a Lu Dort type

'Cause he can't.

[Mr. Body]

i just don't get why he's not transforming his game to a Lu Dort type

Only Lou Dort and Draymond Green get to play the 'foul every single possession' style of defense.

[LeBowen]

Only Lou Dort and Draymond Green get to play the 'foul every single possession' style of defense.

Don't forget KAT, but he doesn't get away with it.

[TD 21]

Utah wants to get rid of Collins, I wonder if they would take on Keldon's contract if we attach some 2nd rounders.

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[ambchang]

Every year of the beatiful basketball and pretty much every year from that moment onwards. There's always at least a moment where the 5 subs share the court.

Again, I looked up the lineups. Cannot find a year where the full bench went out to play meaningful minutes.

[RC_Drunkford]

Show me a season where they played a full bench lineup any meaningful minutes. I struggle to find one.

2013 finals?

[ambchang]

2013 finals?

https://www.basketball-reference.com.../2013/lineups/

That playoffs Duncan is in the top 9 lineups. Number 10 played 17 mins the entire playoffs and had a +51, I don’t recall that lineup playing meaningful minutes.

[DAF86]

Spurs' 10 best players (in no particular order, although, maybe):

Wemby
Fox
Harper
Castle
Vassell
Sochan
Barnes
Kornet
Champagnie
Olynyk

Keldon is a 17 mil per year player that isn't even a rotation guy. There are 3 options:

1) You force him into the rotation, making yourself a lesser team.

2) You keep him out of the rotation and have your 17 millions per year guy's value plummet even more.

3) You trade him now and get back as much value as possible.

Which one do yall think is the better option?

And yes, that's a rethoric question.

[scott]

^pretty sad, considering there are only 12 guys on the team, and the other one is a project rookie

At the same time... kind of nice to see the vast improvement in roster quality from when Keldon was our best player

But to your question... it's #2. We just had a $17MM/yr player sitting on the bench doing absolutely nothing in the penultimate year of his deal become useful in a trade for a Top 30 player. This appears to be Keldon's future sometime between now and this time next year (though probably not for another Top 30 player).