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    That's what I'm hoping.
    Utah is having a real fire sale right now so Collin’s ought to be cheap

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    We absolutely cannot lose Keldon or Devin. They are the heart, soul and future of this team.

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    Please no, Kelon's contract doesn't hurt the team the way Vassell's does.
    I dont know if UTA would want or be willing to take the extra years of Dev vs Keldon or say Barnes.

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    We've got time to trade him tbh. We don't have to decide on Castle/Harper for another few years. I honestly think MATFO betting that he ups his value this upcoming season is worth a try.
    You might get something positive for him now. Wait too long like they did with Keldon and they're going to have to attack picks to get someone to take that contract. His contract hurts even more now that the Trump economy killed off the projected 10% annual raises to the cap.

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    I dont know if UTA would want or be willing to take the extra years of Dev vs Keldon or say Barnes.
    They don't have the kind of cap crunch the Spurs do in the next 3-4 years and Vassell's contract could be useful for trade fodder. Only young guy they have with any chance of being a max player is Bailey and in four years when Bailey is due a new contract Vassell is off the books.

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    We absolutely cannot lose Keldon or Devin. They are the heart, soul and future of this team.
    Habibi, come on. You know there is absolutely no chance whatsoever either of those guys ever gets moved. 0% likely. Will absolutely, positively never happen. There's a greater chance I have a threeway with Sydney Sweeney and Mia Khalifa.

    Never.
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    We absolutely cannot lose Keldon or Devin. They are the heart, soul and future of this team.
    You should limit your reddit time to checking for amateurs posting their nudes and stay off r/spurs tbh

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    I have Keldon out of the rotation and it's complicate to have a backup C that will both shoot 3's and protect the rim.

    Let's say Spurs end up playing with a 9 players rotation of:
    Fox/Castle
    Harper/Castle
    Vassell/Bryant
    Sochan/Barnes
    Wembanyama/Kornet

    Aside of trading Sochan, it isn't easy to fix the shooting of that group.

    And, hopefully, Sochan best shooting form will translate into better shooting numbers.
    I don't think Mitch would start this way, but on paper I think the best projected SL (with back ups) to me would be:

    Fox/Dylan
    Vassell/Champaigne
    Bryant/Castle
    Sochan/Barnes
    Wemby/Kornet

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    Watching Denver and Atlanta front offices improve their teams out of literally nothing goes to show you just how pathetic this front office is.

    Our playoff hopes don't hinge on what we do on the court, they hinge on if the Warriors and Lakers can do anything in the next 48 hours. Only teams we may have gotten better than and that's because both have done mostly nothing in free agency.

    I thought this was a critical off season for us to start putting real actual nba players around Victor. Instead we adding two rookies who will have to compete for minutes with other garbage players and a backup center, that's it.

    Compared to what some of these other teams have done, utterly disgraceful. No hope of us getting any difference making power forwards or small forwards cause we got to make sure the LOL (league of losers) get their minutes.

    If our lottery picks hit we going to be paying Devin and Keldon around 20 mill a year to come off the bench. Disgusting.

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    Watching Denver and Atlanta front offices improve their teams out of literally nothing goes to show you just how pathetic this front office is.

    Our playoff hopes don't hinge on what we do on the court, they hinge on if the Warriors and Lakers can do anything in the next 48 hours. Only teams we may have gotten better than and that's because both have done mostly nothing in free agency.

    I thought this was a critical off season for us to start putting real actual nba players around Victor. Instead we adding two rookies who will have to compete for minutes with other garbage players and a backup center, that's it.

    Compared to what some of these other teams have done, utterly disgraceful. No hope of us getting any difference making power forwards or small forwards cause we got to make sure the LOL (league of losers) get their minutes.

    If our lottery picks hit we going to be paying Devin and Keldon around 20 mill a year to come off the bench. Disgusting.
    I honestly love your m.o.
    You come in, on everything, get exposed by facts, disappear, then come back in a few days like nothing happened.

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    I have Keldon out of the rotation and it's complicate to have a backup C that will both shoot 3's and protect the rim.

    Let's say Spurs end up playing with a 9 players rotation of:
    Fox/Castle
    Harper/Castle
    Vassell/Bryant
    Sochan/Barnes
    Wembanyama/Kornet

    Aside of trading Sochan, it isn't easy to fix the shooting of that group.

    And, hopefully, Sochan best shooting form will translate into better shooting numbers.
    Well, that's not realistic.

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    Watching Denver and Atlanta front offices improve their teams out of literally nothing goes to show you just how pathetic this front office is.

    Our playoff hopes don't hinge on what we do on the court, they hinge on if the Warriors and Lakers can do anything in the next 48 hours. Only teams we may have gotten better than and that's because both have done mostly nothing in free agency.

    I thought this was a critical off season for us to start putting real actual nba players around Victor. Instead we adding two rookies who will have to compete for minutes with other garbage players and a backup center, that's it.

    Compared to what some of these other teams have done, utterly disgraceful. No hope of us getting any difference making power forwards or small forwards cause we got to make sure the LOL (league of losers) get their minutes.

    If our lottery picks hit we going to be paying Devin and Keldon around 20 mill a year to come off the bench. Disgusting.
    As long as our drafting is as good as Okc we will be just fine.

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    I think we need to trade Fox back to Sacramento and then have them trade him back to us again just to cheer everybody up again. It's like a bunch of kids at a summer camp when it rains the first day.

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    I think that's the year our T-Wolves pick conveys

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    Boo.

    6:03 p.m. ET: Free agent Duncan Robinson has agreed to a three-year, $48 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, sources told ESPN's Shams Charania. The Pistons are trading Simone Fontecchio to the Miami Heat to acquire Robinson in a sign-and-trade, sources told ESPN.

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    I think that's the year our T-Wolves pick conveys
    Thats the spot where our Atlanta pick will land when they reach peak form (almost there, just need to nab dybantsa with that NO pick)

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    The rotation will probably - assuming no moves:

    Wemby - Kornet
    Barnes - Sochan
    Vassell - Keldon
    Castle - Champ
    Fox - Harper

    I'd rather have Champ start over Devin but I'm trying to be realistic. No way Keldon is out of the rotation. I don't care how you feel about him, we all know he's not sitting so a rookie can play at the start of the season. After the deadline? Then sure, maybe, but I don't see that being the case in Oct/Nov.

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    nearly 200 pages between the durant thread and this one for luke kornet


    another classic spurs offseason in the books. can't wait for the 2026 version.


    150+ page giannis thread (traded to houston). 70+ page free agency thread (sign haywood highsmith for 3/24M)

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    If I put my NBA 2K hat on the Spurs could send Utah Vassell, Keldon, Barnes, Branham and the Spurs get back both Markannen and Collins. Spurs send a couple FRP’s and SRP’s.

    Works in the trade machine.

    Gives Utah 3 tank commanders until they land their franchise guy via draft and swaps out the Markannen garuantee of about $200M for Vassell’s $100M. Barnes and Collins are both expiring. They could flip Keldon in a season as an expiring.

    Run with that for 2 years and then when Vic is due for his extension you trade one of Mark or Fox.

    Wemby - Kornet
    Collins - Sochan
    Markannen - Bryant
    Castle - Harper
    Fox - Harper

    I don’t think they’d ever rock the boat like this but I mean they were willing to go for Durant who would have commanded $60M per for the next 3 years.

    Anyway back to reality.

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    I think we need to trade Fox back to Sacramento and then have them trade him back to us again just to cheer everybody up again. It's like a bunch of kids at a summer camp when it rains the first day.
    Yep, I consider Fox part of this offseason.

    Fox, Harper, Bryant, Kornet is good business. Still wish we had a few additional moves, but I'm not complaining. I think Brian Wright will work his magic and get us another unexpected vet contributor and then Bassey will fill the last spot as emergency/energy 3rd string big.

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    We absolutely cannot lose Keldon or Devin. They are the heart, soul and future of this team.
    We wouldn’t have gotten these high draft picks without them!

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    Not to overthink things, but spurs have to have something planned, they wouldn’t let Mamu walk for so little if they didnt have something lined up instead of bringing him back.

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    As long as our drafting is as good as Okc we will be just fine.
    As long as our drafting is as good as the second best drafting team in the league

    Have you seen Wrights non Victor, Castle, and Harper picks? No chance of that happening

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    Not to overthink things, but spurs have to have something planned, they wouldn’t let Mamu walk for so little if they didnt have something lined up instead of bringing him back.
    Bc of Mamu...

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    Yep, I consider Fox part of this offseason.

    Fox, Harper, Bryant, Kornet is good business. Still wish we had a few additional moves, but I'm not complaining. I think Brian Wright will work his magic and get us another unexpected vet contributor and then Bassey will fill the last spot as emergency/energy 3rd string big.
    That doesn't make much sense. If part of the offseason as opposed to a trade deadline deal, how do you factor in drafting Harper? I'd have questions if the offseason plan was to load up on redundant talent while not targeting other needs.

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