i dont know much about him, but from his highlights its at least apparent that he is quite comfortable shooting on the move
He scored 11 pts against us when he was with GSW last season, and I remember commenting in the game thread "we're getting beat by whatever a Lindy Waters is"
We ended up coming back and winning that game though, outscoring GSW by 20 in the 4th quarter to win by 10. I believe that was the game early in the season where Castle shut Curry down and got us all hyped over Castle's D... and then Castle's D got worse and worse from that point on as he picked up more offensive responsibility.
I like this signing, next year is gonna be crazy defensively
The shooting drills will be fun
I'm definitely looking at the bright side and like Waters more than Branham already, without playing one second for us yet.He seems much more useful to us and makes me wonder if the Spurs are going to try some 4 & 5-out lineups. That would be a radical change from the Pop mentality.
The talent and IQ has improved so much. That's very good news to me.
I‘m not talking about the Waters signing, I‘m talking in general. Sweeney is managed by Klutch as are Mitch Johnson and Brian Wright.
Linton Johnson III will be proud of the jersey number.
Never seen him play, never heard of him, no draft profile I can find online, no true measurements I can find online, looks like he wasn't a combine invite.
But we are talking about a 15th man. Mediocre on a minimum deal is what your going to get.
As to mediocre 3P%...not based on his stats.
In the NBA he's above average of 3%, .366 across 156 games in 4 seasons @ 13.2mpg, taking 82.0% of all shots from 3. Crazy high volume 3pt shooter.
Over his first 3 seasons he shot 37.7%, taking almost 85% of his shots from 3, and for Detroit he shot 39.5% on over 86% of shots from 3. He had 2 bad games where he went 0-11 for GSW in late December that dragged his 3% away down. He shot 36.6% last yr outside of those 2 games, but he's still above average 3% shooter in the NBA as a deep bench guy over all 4 yrs.
In college, he shot 39.0% over 4 seasons taking over 50% of shots from 3, and well above 40% over his first 3 yrs there.
In the G-league, 43.3% from 3 over 39 games taking almost 65% of his shots from 3.
Of course he's a mediocre NBA player, that's every 15th man (at best), but he's worked to get into the NBA, to have a 4+ season career, and he is a crazy volume 3pt% with above avg 3% in the NBA, good to very good 3pt% in college, and flat out great 3pt% in the G-league.
Undrafted dudes that aren't invited to the combine don't just get 4 year careers plus another contract. He worked his ass off to get where he's at. I'd much rather have that than a dude that's only still in the league because he was a 1st rounder.
We have 6 guys 24 or younger that need development time (plus Vassell and Keldon plus Ingram & DJG & maybe Minix), we didn't need another 22 y/o project, there's no minutes on the NBA roster. Use the two-ways for that kind of guy (or the last roster spot).
He's a guy that will be happy to get 12mpg in 35-40 games, and it shouldn't surprise anyone if he comes in and knocks down 38+% of his 3s taking 3s almost exclusively, like he did his last yr in OKC and last yr in Det. Sure likely limited upside, but I bet he'll be great in the locker room and he can currently fill that very deep bench slot better than others with more potential and he won't sulk about PT. Not blown away by this but certainly not as disappointed as you seem to be.
- Our roster is almost full. You'll have no guarantee of playing.
- That's fine with me.
- Depending on events during the season, there's a good chance you'll be used in a trade.
- That's fine with me.
- Until then, we need you to demonstrate the best possible at ude during the team setup so that the new players integrate as smoothly as possible into the team, but also into the environment. You'll have to serve as an example for them during their first steps as a professional. You've been in the league, we know you well. We expect the same from you.
- I was aware of that, and I agree.
- You'll have access to all our facilities, you'll be able to work individually. Situation is clear, but players in the same situation as you have also found playing time depending on the cir stances.
- That's why I'm here, and I thank you for the trust and the opportunity.
- We'll also expect you to get involved in community life. It's very important in San Antonio, especially in these times. Don't say anything: we know you. Do you play chess?
- Like the rest of the NBA, I've taken it up in recent months.
- What's your Elo?
- My... o?... Hmm. "Hi."
- High? Good.
- No, sorry, what is it?
- You're honest. I like it.
- I try to be.
- To the point of refusing to give us certain informations about OKC?
- I can also give you some about... Detroit.
- Ah, ah! I like that humor.
- ...
- ... Yeah, actually, even Detroit interests me.
- You won't be disappointed.
- You've got the job.
For these 14th and 15th roster spots, there are really only 3 directions you can go:
1. Young potential - This can take a few different forms. Late FRP. SRP. A free agent who shows flashes, etc. Blake and Bran have been these guys for us of late.
2. Experienced role player - Pretty self explanatory. The Lonnie Walker, Mamus of the world kind of fill this category. I'd put Lindy Waters here as well.
3. Grizzled vet - This is where your Kevin Love and Bismack Biyombo's fall
Waters is Group 2. I think we'll probably go group 3 with the last roster spot unless a real rotation player should come available. I don't think we are interested in Group 1 because we have 4 guys on rookie contracts who are starters or major parts of our rotation (Sochan, Wemby, Castle, Harper) and another who is a group 1 guy who is just outside of that core rotation group (Bryant).
What where the chances we would sign a LW# thats not Lonny Walker IV?
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Sir, would Kevin Love fit us at this time?
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Update: The San Antonio Spurs signed Lindy Waters to a one-year, partially guaranteed deal worth $500K, sources told Hoopshype
. Waters is a career 37% 3-point shooter over his four NBA seasons combined with the Oklahoma City Thunder, Golden State Warriors, and Detroit Pistons.
Waters contract being $500K guaranteed is really interesting.
$500K is 34 days of salary for Waters. Spurs will have the preseason and a "free" month" to evaluate him and Jones-Garcia before making a choice about keeping Waters and/or upgrading Jones-Garcia to a full contract.
The way contracts are in today's NBA, 500K
is basically free.
that's a great contract. Not that it really matters, but still saves them some bread
So he gets 500K if he's waived/released before January 10th? Isn't that more than 34 days, or do you mean days as in 34 game days?
A player, without a guaranteed salary, cost 1/174th of his yearly salary for each day he is with the team. That's because the season is 174 days long.
Waters III salary for the season is about $2.5M with $500K guaranteed and become fully guaranteed, as all other contracts, on January 10th.
There will have basically 3 periods regarding his possible waiving:
- From now to late November (34 days after the start of the season): He will receive $500K. Spurs have no financial incentives to waive him before late November since his salary is already paid by the guaranteed part of his contract.
- From late November to January 10th: He will received the prorated amount of his contract. It will raise by about $14K each day to go from $500K to about $1.2M.
- After January 10th: He will received his full salary of $2.5M.
Point still stands regardless. Feels like the agency wants to link up with Wemby. They have considerable leverage with the Lakers.
I would say that is a thing of the past. LA seems perfectly willing to punt this season, and maybe next in order to hit the 2026/2027 FA classes, and that has royally pissed of LeBron, who doesn’t have much time left in the league. He wants them to improve the team now, and they’re not listening.
I would absolutely love a LeBron revenge tour where he and Klutch divert top FAs away from the Lakers for a decade or so.
AS can make a deal to put Luka in LA but can't force him to stay. Unlikely LA can afford to punt anything anymore. They need to be in constant win now mode with Luka there.
They pull stunts like this, which was my entire point. Just trying to point out they've been digging their claws into the organization. Fox, Waters, Sweeney, Johnson, and apparently Wright too.
We work with them without letting them run the whole show like the Lakers did. I think it started with the Marcus Morris debacle. They dropped him as a client after that.
We have a player they really want to put their guys with in Wemby. That’s a powerful amount of leverage, enough to get us Fox for 25 cents on the dollar.
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