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    It's true though. The solution to winning WWII from a Deutschland perspective was to leave the US and Russia alone for as long as possible, and leverage the might of powerful allies in Italy, Spain, Japan, the Middle East Islamist regimes, and to an extent Finland. You've already conquered or allied with most of Europe, conquered France which was the first big domino, and basically annexed and/or made allegiances with the rest of central and northern Europe. The key was to leave Stalingrad alone and to focus all efforts and might on conquering the U.K. Once the UK fell to the Third Reich, you re-assess the situation and bask in victory. Maybe the US and/or Russia send forces to try and save Britain, maybe they don't. At this point the UK is run by an Axis-friendly government, ideally more similar to a Franco or Mussolini than the relatively weak Vichy France. Once you have complete and total control of all of Europe west of the USSR, if the USA commits to isolationism and Pearl Harbor never happens, you can easily strengthen forces along the USSR border and in the Middle East. Make key oil deals with Muslim tycoon countries that the USA and USSR can't match. Strengthen your navy and air force to be the strongest in the world. Annex and easily take control over Switzerland, and establish a core industrial and nuclear base there that can't easily be attacked due to terrain. Make the Third Reich and its allies strong enough to weather any attack from the USSR or anywhere else.
    Hitler had no intention of fighting Britain, France, or the US. His failure was in continuing forward with his plan to defeat the commies after Britian and France attacked him without provocation. Had Britian and France not been so triggered that they lashed out irrationally, he would have been able to rid the world of marxism.

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    Hitler had no intention of fighting Britain, France, or the US. His failure was in continuing forward with his plan to defeat the commies after Britian and France attacked him without provocation. Had Britian and France not been so triggered that they lashed out irrationally, he would have been able to rid the world of marxism.

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    Nazis gonna nazi…

    in imbeciles…

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    Nazis gonna nazi…

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    communists gonna communist.....

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    communists gonna communist.....
    Define communism and show how the people you talk about fit that definition.

    Or fold.

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    Define communism and show how the people you talk about fit that definition.

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    Chump triggered.....

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    triggered Boomerfair folds.....

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    triggered Boomerfair folds.....
    Chump triggered....

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    You lose....

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    you triggered....

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    You can't post anything else....
    you triggered....

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    Hitler had no intention of fighting Britain, France, or the US. His failure was in continuing forward with his plan to defeat the commies after Britian and France attacked him without provocation. Had Britian and France not been so triggered that they lashed out irrationally, he would have been able to rid the world of marxism.
    We'd easily dispatched and conquered France by the summer of 1940, so they weren't a player at all as a sovereign state for the rest of the war. They were always weak and a key strategic buffer against Britain. Yes, the UK was weak and woke commie sympathizers, so the only way to defeat marxism and the USSR eventually was to eliminate the UK as a threat, either the soft way like with France or the hard way, but staying true to our side of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact at least until the rest of Europe had been fulled cleared and conquered by the Reich and its allies. There was no way the USSR was going to attack unprovoked, but you have to like the Reich's chances against the USSR with a Reich-friendly UK/France/Spain/Italy and with a much better developed European war system versus the relatively primitive USSR which had little other than manpower at that point My point is that Adolf stretched the military way too thin and on way too many fronts which ended up easily becoming the downfall of the Reich not too dissimilar from the Napoleon fallacy.

    The US was never going to be involved until Japan went rogue and very very stupid and did Pearl Harbor, obviously Japan was always the most loose-cannon out of our allies but they had to be reined in at some point. If not for Pearl Harbor the US had zero reason to become involved in the war, being halfway across the world with a strong homeland defense system and before the time of ICBMs and long range nuclear capability. Honestly they deserved to get nuked at Hiroshima and Nagasaki for their damn sheer stupidity that launched the full force of the great big satan to the west inadvertently into the Reich.

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    Chump triggered like a dumbass as usual...

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    Unapologetically

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    But that's not you.

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    But that's not you.
    I never met him, but paternal grandfather was pretty high up in the SS, got three years jail time in the Nuremberg trials, married my paternal grandmother who is Italian and Serbian and moved to Belgrade with her. My father was actually born in Belgrade. Never met him either, he's kind of turned communist, but I do know my oldest half brothers from him, he had like 14 sons with 11 women or something crazy like that including me

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    vote no on 50, but i expect it to pass. single digit sleeper though

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    This is going to be one of the biggest issues of the next few months.


    Jared Golden in ME-02 announced today he is retiring, making that district a very likely flip next year.

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    This is going to be one of the biggest issues of the next few months.


    Jared Golden in ME-02 announced today he is retiring, making that district a very likely flip next year.
    I'm not familiar with Maine politics

    If I had to guess, racial depolarization, stagflation and Trumpy fascism will result in an historic wave election in 2026

    A 5-10% shift to the left isn't survivable for national Rs

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    I'm not familiar with Maine politics

    If I had to guess, racial depolarization, stagflation and Trumpy fascism will result in an historic wave election in 2026

    A 5-10% shift to the left isn't survivable for national Rs
    When I say "this" I don't mean just Maine. I mean nationwide bloody mid decade gerrymandering battles on both sides, ramifications from VRA II being overturned, etc. DeSantis announced that if prop 50 passed in California which it did, he will "absolutely" redraw Florida and attempt to match California seat for seat. He claims that Texas's redraw was a late retaliation to Illinois's radical gerrymander in 2021, which I absolutely agree with.

    Religious and racial polarization as well as gender polarization (well under a third of youths are married and that number is dropping like a rock, leading to animosity amongst the sexes rather than unity, young christian men calling to abolish 19A forgetting that all that would do is make it a states' rights issue which all 50 states would almost certainly uphold) only will get worse, you're fudging yourself if you think otherwise.

    2026 is not 2006. You're living in the past. You're basically an inverse conservative pundit in November 2021, four short years ago. It's gonna be a monster red [blue] wave next year. All the momentum. The quarter term elections go amazingly well. It's gonna be a wave midterm. Reality check....... we live in a polarized country so the realistic best-case scenario for the Dems in 2026 is basically the inverse of what the GOP did in 2022. Take back the House by a small margin and struggle in the Senate because states are polarized and each candidate is evaluated on an individual level.

    Stagflation is a problem, but the previous administration and AI are at fault, not GOP policy nor orange-man-bad.

    If I can name one positive difference between Biden 2021 and Trump 2025. Bitcoin and crypto prices have stagnated not pumped and it's where most of my money lies. Biden left crypto alone in 2021 but other Dems in 2022 like Warren decided to stick their dirty trad-fi bureaucratic noses in. Which is why Trump got the crypto vote in 2024. But crypto has performed terribly in 2025 especially compared to every other post election year since 2009. If someone like Newsom promises to make bitcoin and blue chip altcoins a mainstream thing and has a well-detailed plan of action behind it, he's got my vote in 2028, because I vote with my wallet, otherwise I'm still under the assumption that the economic issues are the fault of AI and the Biden admin.

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    you're fried, dude

    take the filet out of the pan

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    lol blaming it all on Biden

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    can't be real, right?




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