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    maybe the strategy here is that a global energy shock will somehow give Trump even more leverage over other countries and his internal opponents

    could turn out the opposite, though
    Lol "strategy". He's just throwing all over the place and seeing if anything sticks.

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    Lol "strategy". He's just throwing all over the place and seeing if anything sticks.
    a global energy shock was foreseeable by anyone with a middle school education, i don't think it can be ruled out that this was intentional

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    avoiding a global energy shock is one obvious reason US war with Iran was never pursued until last year

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    it's fascinating how most presidents don't have a button to lower prices, but donald john trump has created USS Enterprise levels of buttons for generating inflation

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    a global energy shock was foreseeable by anyone with a middle school education, i don't think it can be ruled out that this was intentional
    one way to think of it is this

    Trump tried and failed with tariffs, now war and its effects are his new regime of global financial coercion

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    put everyone in pain, then encourage them to seek favors

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    Well, this explains everything…kinda…almost….


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    They all said Hormuz closure would be brief. What if they were wrong?

    ...

    The Red Sea crisis offers a recent example. A large majority of shipowners continued to avoid the Red Sea route until the Houthis declared it safe, and even then, most refrained from returning.

    The US military’s attacks on the Houthis in March-May 2025 did nothing to bring commercial traffic back.

    The US Navy “spends very little time at a strategic level understanding the pressures and demands of the commercial maritime economy”, said Joshua Tallis, adviser to the chief of naval operations at the Center for Naval Analyses, at the enic American-Norwegian American Chambers of Commerce conference on February 10.

    Regarding the Red Sea crisis, he said, “From a Navy standpoint, the sort of knee-jerk instinct was to say, ‘Well, we’re shooting down missiles, the odds on an individual ship getting hit are actually relatively low, so we’ve solved the problem, right?’ The US Navy doesn’t really have the domain expertise on the pressures from maritime insurance rates and war risk insurance.”

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    There are strong parallels between Red Sea crisis and the Strait of Hormuz closure in terms of the commercial realities that dictate transit behaviour.

    But there is a crucial difference: the Red Sea is an “open” chokepoint; ships can go around it using the Cape of Good Hope.

    Hormuz is a “closed” chokepoint. The crude, products, liquefied natural gas and liquefied petroleum gas inside the strait is effectively shut in. The exception is that some Saudi Arabian crude can be moved via pipeline to the Red Sea.

    With every passing day, the closed nature of the Hormuz chokepoint increases the market disruption risk, because Middle East Gulf oil producers are running out of storage. When storage fills, they will have to shut down production, which will take time to restart.

    Qatar fully shut down its LNG operations on Wednesday, representing around 20% of global LNG supply. According to Reuters, the country’s LNG operations would take two weeks to restart, and another two weeks to get back to full production.

    Iraq, Opec’s second-largest producer, began shutting down some of its field operations earlier this week. Kuwait began reducing production on Friday.

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    Shipowners have argued in the past that a Strait of Hormuz closure would be brief because the world cannot handle the loss of that energy supply.

    But the commercial reality is that an effective reopening will require a sufficient number of shipowners to be confident in the safety of their assets and their crew, conditions that did not seem imminent on Thursday.

    In the near term, shipowners can avoid the risk altogether and still make enormous profits by sticking to safe loading ports in the Atlantic basin, where rates are benefiting indirectly from the war. This dynamic should push ballast tonnage away from the MEG market, where it would be stuck in a queue outside the strait.

    This is already happening. Vortexa reported on Tuesday that tankers were diverting and seeking alternative employment.

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    the escalation of targeting desalinization plants portends civilizational ruin for the region, to say nothing of mass death from lack of water and brisk refugee flows across borders

    really amazing that US/Israel has put this on the table


    An Iranian drone attack caused material damage to a water desalination plant in Bahrain, the country’s Interior Ministry has said.

    This comes a day after Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said the US attacked a freshwater desalination plant on Qeshm Island in southern Iran, setting a “precedent”.
    There was no immediate comment from Iran following Bahrain’s statement.
    The majority of Gulf countries largely depend on desalinated water for their inhabitants’ consumption.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveb...tates-continue

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    this site is so bricked
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    is it tyrannical to force people to wear masks?

    ~17 million people live in the metropolitan area of Tehran



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    I guess the argument here would be that civilian infrastructure is dual purpose and as such is a legitimate military target, or that popular support for the Iranian regime will be undermined by destroying it

    (Is there any legitimate military target in an illegal war of aggression?)

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    This is the Israeli playbook from Gaza (and Putin's in Ukraine for that matter) and it is ultra-disturbing to see the US carry out repeated attacks on civilian infrastructure

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    BARTIROMO: Are you telling us you want the UAE and the Saudis to lash out and strike Iran right now?

    LINDSEY GRAHAM Yeah. I want them to get in the fight.

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    If we get in a fight, I want to win it quick. I'm in Miami. You see this hat? 'Free Cuba.' Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us. We're marching through the world. We're clearing out the bad guys. Cuba is next.

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    Explosion at US embassy in Oslo may have been terrorism, Norway police say

    An overnight explosion at the US embassy in Oslo may have been an act of terrorism, Norway's police have said.

    The embassy in the Norwegian capital sustained minor damage after the blast in the early hours of Sunday - but no-one was injured.

    "One of the hypotheses is that it is an act of terrorism, but we are not completely locked into it," Frode Larsen, the head of police joint investigation and intelligence unit, told Norway's public broadcaster NRK.

    Norwegian authorities say they are in contact with US diplomats, and an investigation into the incident is now under way. US diplomats have not commented.

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    is that a "no" on supplemental war funding?



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    Israel's strikes on 30 Iranian fuel depots Saturday went far beyond what the U.S. expected when Israel notified it in advance, sparking the first significant disagreement between the allies since the war began eight days ago, according to a U.S. official, Israeli official and a source with knowledge.
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