Donald G.W.B. Trump officially attacks Iran

[ChumpDumper]

Of course not. We have the vibes of concepts of a framework of a deal.

[Blake]

People are calling it the biggest ever!

A WHOLE CIVILIZATION WILL DIE TONIGHT!

okay one of them said they might open the strait so we'll give them another 2 year extension.

BUT AFTER THAT NO MORE MR NICE GUY

unless one of them in charge says anything remotely close to saying they maybe might make a deal

[Blake]

Even Graham has had enough of TACOs

[ChumpDumper]

If a deal is struck to end the Iranian conflict because it is believed that the Strait of Hormuz cannot be protected from Iranian terrorism and Iran still possesses the capability to destroy major Gulf oil infrastructure, then Iran will be perceived as being a dominate force requiring a diplomatic solution.

This combination of Iran being perceived as having the ability to terrorize the Strait in perpetuity and the ability the inflict massive damage to Gulf oil infrastructure is a major shift of the balance of power in the region and over time will be a nightmare for Israel.

Also, it makes one wonder why the war started to begin with if these perceptions are accurate. I personally am a skeptic of the idea that Iran cannot be denied the ability to terrorize the Strait and the region cannot protect itself against Iranian military capability.

It is important we get this right.

One does have to wonder why the war was started to begin with.

Any ideas, Trump supporters?

[Winehole23]

Nicolas Vaiman, the CEO of data analytics firm Bubblemaps, told CBS’s 60 Minutes Sunday that a series of nine anonymous accounts had a 98 percent win rate after placing more than 80 bets on pivotal moments of the joint U.S.-Israeli military campaign against Iran

https://newrepublic.com/post/210564/...nsider-trading

[Winehole23]

the logic of DO SOMETHING is leading to escalation

The cycle of:

1) Threats
2) Lies of an imminent peace deal
3) Positive media coverage for that
4) Evidence of no deal, and nowhere close to Iran making concessions
5) Pretending not to care about a deal he transparently wants
6) Threats

[Winehole23]

Iran doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get a deal done

[Winehole23]

Trump is flailing for purchase

[Winehole23]

things seem to be happening today

Iran has demanded the preservation of its uranium enrichment rights in any nuclear agreement but affirmed it will adhere to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.-Al Arabiya

Ship-tracking data show that three liquefied natural gas tankers have passed through the Strait of Hormuz in recent days, heading to Pakistan, China and India, as well as a supertanker with Iraqi crude for China after being stranded for nearly three months.-Al Arabiya

Iran demanding transfer of highly enriched uranium to China, according to senior sources cited by Al-Arabiya.

[ChumpDumper]

Iran likely wants to drag this out to humiliate Trump personally. That will give Bibi more time to bully Trump into renewed bombing and even boots on the ground.

All to get a new JCPOA.

Black President.

[Winehole23]

KSA not signing on to the Abraham Accords yet

[Blake]

Iran doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get a deal done

Of course not. They have a decent hand to play and Trump makes up. Just another day in this stupid war.

[Winehole23]

An Iranian source said the heavy gunfire heard near Bandar Abbas erupted after the IRGC targeted a vessel at sea, followed by U.S. fighter jets striking IRGC naval boats in the Gulf.

[Winehole23]

IRAN’S MEHR NEWS AGENCY SAYS THE SITUATION IN BANDAR ABBAS IS UNDER CONTROL AND THAT THE SOUNDS OF EXPLOSIONS WERE CAUSED BY DEFENSIVE ACTIVITY.

[Winehole23]

[Winehole23]

U.S. forces carried out “self-defense” strikes in southern Iran on Monday, CENTCOM spokesperson Capt. Tim Hawkins told Fox News.

[Winehole23]

"using restraint during the ongoing ceasefire"

Targets included missile launch sites and Iranian boats attempting to emplace mines. U.S. Central Command continues to defend our forces while using restraint during the ongoing ceasefire

[Winehole23]

i.e, attacking the other side

[Millennial_Messiah]

KSA not signing on to the Abraham Accords yet

I say make all of Israel as the Palestinian state and put the Israeli's in Auschwitz.

[Winehole23]

Workers’ pay packets are shrinking in relation to prices in a growing number of rich countries as the energy shock unleashed by the Iran war chokes off a nascent recovery in real wages.The squeeze on consumers in the UK, US and elsewhere comes as they face sharp increases in prices for petrol and airfares triggered by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. US inflation jumped to an annual 3.8 per cent in April, while average hourly earnings increased 3.6 per cent over the year, meaning prices were rising faster than earnings for the first time in two years.“The war is roiling supply chains and will push prices higher [than] before, even if the strait were to open tomorrow,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at KPMG US.

https://www.ft.com/content/e126f744-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

[Winehole23]

I say make all of Israel as the Palestinian state and put the Israeli's in Auschwitz.

there are ~2 mlllion Israeli Arabs, I'm guessing you don't include them in your extermination fantasy

[Winehole23]

can't imagine what might go wrong

[Winehole23]

forking over billions merely to begin talks

According to reports in Iran, Tehran is standing on the fact that they will receive 12 billion dollars with the announcement of the memorandum of understanding between it and Washington.-Kan News

[Winehole23]

is this what unconditional surrender looks like?

Iran’s sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz is essential to any peace deal with the United States, Ebrahim Azizi, the head of the Iranian parliament's National Security Committee, said on Monday.

[Millennial_Messiah]

there are ~2 mlllion Israeli Arabs, I'm guessing you don't include them in your extermination fantasy

They're not Israelis, they're Palestinians