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    Senator Moreno's sanctions bill against Canada for (*squints at notes*) wildfire smoke

    these sorts of provisions are more usual for countries waging wars of aggression, terrorists and egregious human rights violators -- you know, hostile foreign powers





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    over 1 billion hectares, mostly not accessible by automobiles



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    The argument has shifted from "It's all just occasional posts on Truth Social" to "Well it has political momentum, but it's just Trump" to a case where GOP legislators have, largely on their own, introduced a bill to treat Canadian government officials as terrorists. The escalation here is clear.
    https://bsky.app/profile/bordenstan..../3mqzjce7pzc2v

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    It does feel pretty rich that the President of the United States can spend months calling for us to be annexed, hammering us with tariffs etc. (to general indifference or reactions that treat it like a joke) but Canadians losing patience is treated as an unreasonable betrayal.

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    Statement by Prime Minister Carney on the United States administration’s intention to impose new tariffs on Canadian goods
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    Ottawa, Ontario

    “Today, the United States administration announced its intention to impose a new 50% tariff on a significant number of Canadian goods.

    This is the latest in a series of unilateral U.S. trade actions that began with the U.S. imposing a series of tariffs in direct violation of the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA), the free trade agreement between Canada, the United States, and Mexico.

    These include tariffs on the Canadian auto sector, in violation of CUSMA. Canada, as is its right, has merely matched those measures.

    More broadly, in response to these measures and threats to Canadian sovereignty, provinces, territories, and Canadians from coast to coast to coast have stood together, taking the necessary actions to support our economy and defend our workers, farmers, businesses, and families.

    Recognising that the U.S. has been transforming all of its trade relationships, including those covered under CUSMA, over the past 18 months, Canada has made a series of detailed and comprehensive proposals to resolve this dispute and to modernise CUSMA. We stand ready to intensify those discussions in the coming weeks.

    Canada believes in the benefits of free and fair trade, as evidenced by our new government signing more than 20 new economic and security partnerships. This trade dispute has raised costs for families, particularly in the U.S. Canada stands ready to engage intensively to address outstanding issues with the U.S. to the mutual benefit of our citizens.

    In all cir stances, Canada will work relentlessly and take any measures necessary to build our strength at home and to support Canadian workers, farmers, businesses, and families.”
    https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/stateme...ions-intention

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    Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he's "losing patience" following U.S. President Donald Trump's latest tariff hit and urged the federal government to "hit him back as hard as we can."

    "I'm tired of the bully trying to take our lunch money all the time. We always seem to be on our back heels. We need to be on the offence, not constantly on the defence with President Trump," said Ford as he arrived in Charlottetown for three days of meetings with his provincial and territorial counterparts.

    "I'm losing patience … we can't keep rolling over."

    Ford resurrected his suggestion Canada cut off energy supplies to its southern neighbour.

    "We are an energy powerhouse and we could dismantle the U.S. if we wanted to," said Ford, stressing he wasn't speaking for the other premiers.

    "The potash, the oil, we're their number-one customer in the world, they need to feel the pain rather than us constantly feeling the pain."
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cou...land-9.7270861

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    Canadians spent $3.3bn less on travel to US in 2025 after Trump’s return to office

    Canadians spent $3.3bn less on travel to the US in 2025 than in the previous year, as Donald Trump’s hostile policies towards his northern neighbour continue to incur an economic cost, new government data shows.

    The research also indicates that Canadians are not bucking travel overall and instead have replaced US vacations with other international destinations, in a rebuke to Trump’s tariff regime and the president’s continued musings on annexing Canada.

    “Following the change in the US administration in early 2025 and the implementation of America First policies, Canadian travel sentiment shifted abruptly,” said authors of the report published by Statistics Canada, the country’s national statistics agency.

    Total US travel spending in 2025 amounted to $18.8bn, down from $22.1bn in 2024.

    In contrast, Canadian spending on travel abroad, excluding the US, grew by $3.6bn in 2025, to a total of $22.8bn.

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    Looking at 2026 data so far, Statistics Canada said the drop in leisure travel to the US was continuing. Return trips to Canada from the US this year are at similar levels seen at the end of 2025, which saw a 27% decline between October and December, it reported.

    The data signals “a persistent shift away from the United States by Canadian residents in their travel preferences”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...vel-drop-trump

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    yeah, epochal self-wounding instigated by Trump

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    Canada adds 75,000 new jobs in July, unemployment rate lowest in 2 years

    Canada added 75,000 jobs in July, up 0.4 per cent, as the unemployment rate fell to 6.4 per cent, its lowest level in two years.

    Statistics Canada's labour force survey released on Friday said most of those gains were split between full- and part-time work, as wholesale and retail trade alone added 21,000 new jobs.

    The agency says employment rose for people aged 25 to 54, and mostly for women in that age group.

    The unemployment rate held steady at 5.8 per cent for men aged 25 to 54, Statistics Canada says, while falling 5.2 per cent for women in that cohort.

    Ontario added the most jobs of any province in July, with 52,000, or an increase of 0.6 per cent, mostly in the professional, scientific and technical services sector. British Columbia had a similar increase, with 18,000 new jobs.

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    Statistics Canada said the country is up 181,000 jobs since April, and 196,000 from a year ago.

    July's employment rate boost follows on good jobs news in May and June.

    "Three straight months moving in the right direction is exactly how turning points begin," Laura Ulrich, director of economic research at the recruitment firm Indeed, said in an statement.

    "And if the breadth we saw in July holds into the fall, stabilization could quietly become the momentum Canada has been waiting for."

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    The hike in job numbers was "well above" forecasts, says CIBC senior economist Andrew Grantham, adding it's thanks to "brisk hiring" in July.

    There was also good news for young people, he said, with the student summer job market stronger than it's been in the past two years and unemployment for young people, ages 15 to 24, the lowest since early 2024.

    The 6.4 per cent overall unemployment rate may be at its lowest level in two years, he said in a statement, but it's still about half a point higher than what it would be if Canada's workforce was at full employment.

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/can...2026-9.7299225

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    Statement by Prime Minister Carney on Canada-U.S. trade negotiations

    Over the past 18 months, Canada’s new government has focused on building our strength at home, diversifying our partnerships abroad, and striking a fair deal with the United States.

    Our objectives in our trade negotiations have been to:

    Preserve tariff-free access to the U.S. for the vast majority of Canadian business;
    Provide greater stability to our trade relationship;
    Significantly reduce U.S. tariffs on our key strategic industries, so that Canadian businesses in these sectors would have the best access of any in the world;
    Protect our small and medium-sized businesses – the lifeblood of our economy – including by removing the imminent threat of new tariffs; and
    Maintain our flexibility, independence, and sovereignty so we can keep building the Canada we want.

    We have recognised from the beginning that America has changed, and that we will not return to our old relationship. Our government understood, before many, that America is altering all its trade relationships. Putting tariffs on its closest allies and charging for access to its vast market.

    We have worked in that context. To strike a fair deal that would provide the best access to the U.S. market and greater certainty to Canadian businesses and workers. Throughout, our goal has been to secure the best deal for Canadians, never a deal at any price or on any deadline.

    In recent weeks, we made important progress toward improving Canada’s position as having the best deal in the world with the U.S.

    However, that progress has not been enough to meet our objectives for Canadians. As a result, this evening, I have decided to suspend trade negotiations with the U.S. and have directed Canada’s negotiators to return to Ottawa. They have worked hard, in good faith, to defend the interests of Canadians throughout these negotiations up until the very last minute. However, last-minute changes in the U.S. proposed terms were unfair, uneconomic, and called into question the reliability of any deal.

    At midnight tonight, the U.S. intends to impose a 50% tariff on roughly $28 billion of Canadian goods. Canada will match those tariffs dollar for dollar to protect our workers and businesses.

    In the coming days, the government will introduce additional measures to support Canadian workers and businesses, building on the nearly $25 billion in support provided over the past 18 months.

    These actions complement Canada’s core economic strategy. From day one, we have been focused on building our strength at home and diversifying our partnerships abroad.

    That strategy is working. We are advancing nearly $500 billion in major infrastructure projects. In parallel, we are unlocking new export markets for Canadian businesses. Our existing free trade deals already provide Canada with preferential access to 1.5 billion consumers, and we are on track to double that market access by the end of this year.

    Canadian economic growth is accelerating, and we are on course to have the second-fastest growth in the G7 over the next two years. Our economy is creating jobs at four times the rate of the United States. Our exports to non-U.S. markets are on track to double over the next decade. Foreign direct investment in Canada is at its highest level in two decades, running at twice the rate of our nearest G7 compe or. Canada now ranks as the most attractive country in the world for infrastructure investment.

    Canada has what the world wants. And we will not allow any nation to determine our future. We will set our own course to keep building Canada strong for all.
    https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/stateme...e-negotiations

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    the USA as presently cons uted is not agreement capable

    I think everybody sees that now
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    The U.S. is imposing 50% tariffs on $20 billion worth of Canadian products after last-ditch negotiations failed. Canada promises to match the tax.-AP

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    not hard to understand why Canada walked away

    In the final hours of negotiations, the U.S. tried to include restrictions on Canada's ability to strike trade deals with other countries, Carney said.
    "Unacceptable," the prime minister said flatly.


    Plus, the U.S. tried to restrict Canada's protections of its languages, its culture and its sovereignty, Carney added. He did not provide details of what those restrictions looked like.
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livest....7310605.15367

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    a deal signed in pencil by Trump, revocable at whim


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    The prime minister said that Canada will match US tariffs "dollar-for-dollar" from 8 September, including levies on steel, dairy, appliances and electronics. Donald Trump has yet to comment.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx272np7vgyo

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    Carney: " I don't think the US want us to stop exporting our electricity. Or Oil. Or want us to stop buying US Cars"

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    On paper a trade war between the US and Canada should be much harder on the northern country. But one country’s political economy can sustain the major costs of a trade war and the other’s cannot.

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    just like the war on Iran

    did you forget to build a shred of domestic support first and that any amount of pain will be intolerable, while at the same time your unprovoked aggression has given the other public an iron will?

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    Carney actually makes deals. Pure envy.

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    a trade war with our #2 trade partner is dumb, period

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    Canada didn't start it

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    insane ask


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