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    Uh, I highly highly doubt that.



    If true he will never play in the NBA, especially with the Spurs.
    Javtokas is more impressive as dunker than Howard is. I have see this many time. You really not know what level his athletic ability be.

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    Are you sure you're not thinking of pre-motorcycle accident Javtokas? Even then, that's quite a stretch.
    Dwight Howard is not as athletic as Javtokas. No stretch. Howard is only most athletic big man in NBA not in world. Maybe he not as athletic after injury? Not sure and also he older now and also then Howard and maybe this make him less a little athletic.

    But I still believe he more athletic then Howard. He not play in Euroleague with PAO but he have play in ULEB Cup in recent years and do well. When he in Lithuania he give incredible dunks in game and this after accident.

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    Javtokas is not more athletic than Dwight Howard.

    I've seen video of Javtokas, he is not better, sorry.

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    As Tau's coach said, you never know how a player is going to adjust.
    I'm pretty confident that Tiago will do fine.

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    Sato looks no better now than he did in 2003 when he was drafted.




    The coach of the italian team looks like the prototypical rich italian

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    of a game here. Can't say that any of the players on the floor interest me that much, I don't see many "great" players.

    The only one that seems to play well that would translate well over to the NBA is one Alex Garcia. he looked good back in the day when the Spurs had him before though.

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    Javtokas is not more athletic than Dwight Howard.

    I've seen video of Javtokas, he is not better, sorry.
    Here is same lies come from some American fans here. Where I say he is "better then Howard"? I NEVER say such thing. Why is ALWAYS this way of manipulate what Euro fans says?

    Stromile Swift have higher jump than Howard is he also better player? Please stop with idiot posts as these.

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    Siena 64, Maccabi 61 at the end of the 3rd. Maccabi was down double digits earlier in the quarter.

    And yes, the Italian coach is fairly stereotypical

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    of a game here. Can't say that any of the players on the floor interest me that much, I don't see many "great" players.

    The only one that seems to play well that would translate well over to the NBA is one Alex Garcia. he looked good back in the day when the Spurs had him before though.
    You should know then Spanoulis is 4 or 5 levels of ability higher then Garcia.

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    Alex Garcia is a solid player.

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    Dwight Howard is not as athletic as Javtokas. No stretch. Howard is only most athletic big man in NBA not in world. Maybe he not as athletic after injury? Not sure and also he older now and also then Howard and maybe this make him less a little athletic.

    But I still believe he more athletic then Howard. He not play in Euroleague with PAO but he have play in ULEB Cup in recent years and do well. When he in Lithuania he give incredible dunks in game and this after accident.
    You need to look at Dwight more. "More Athletic" is a judgment call and while I think Javtokas is not the more athletic of the two, the truth is that Howard is a better big man under the basket than Javtokas is. So even if you're right, I would still take Howard over Javtokas any day.

    And just for the record, I've always liked Javtokas pre and post accident.

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    After the NBA has seen how well Scola has done this year, 3rd in RotY voting and 14 points w/ 9.5 rebounds in the playoffs, maybe Javtokas's rights will be worth something.

    Maybe not much, but enough to swap 1st round picks in order to move up a few spots to get a player they fear won't fall to them.

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    You need to look at Dwight more. "More Athletic" is a judgment call and while I think Javtokas is not the more athletic of the two, the truth is that Howard is a better big man under the basket than Javtokas is. So even if you're right, I would still take Howard over Javtokas any day.

    And just for the record, I've always liked Javtokas pre and post accident.
    I never compare Javtokas to Howard as how good of players I use word athletic. Since when athletic mean how good player is? Guess Spurs fans believe Amare better player then Duncan from posts here.

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    I somehow can't see Javtokas pulling off the "sticker dunk." That was a supreme display of athleticism/vertical leap.

    Also Kill-Bill, you don't need to go off insulting posters because they disagree with you and stereotyping Americans as ignorant when it's one guy pissing you off.

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    Duncan, Mahinmi, Bonner
    Thomas, Oberto, Splitter

    That's a solid frontline; a great combination of experience and youth. Bonner may not seem like a good fit, but he's the only big who can spread the floor (out of those six).

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    After the NBA has seen how well Scola has done this year, 3rd in RotY voting and 14 points w/ 9.5 rebounds in the playoffs, maybe Javtokas's rights will be worth something.

    Maybe not much, but enough to swap 1st round picks in order to move up a few spots to get a player they fear won't fall to them.
    Scola is same player as he were in Euroleague as he is in NBA. Announcer keep say thing like "must improve against higher level and must adjust against higher level" these idiot not watch Scola before.

    He is play about similar level in NBA as he do in Euroleague playoff level. So there is some player that can make good adjustment for start in NBA. But this Scola is smart and clever player. He is much more smart and clever player then Javtokas even though Javtokas has much more strong and big and athletic body.

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    I somehow can't see Javtokas pulling off the "sticker dunk." That was a supreme display of athleticism/vertical leap.

    Also Kill-Bill, you don't need to go off insulting posters because they disagree with you and stereotyping Americans as ignorant when it's one guy pissing you off.
    This is because you have never see some of his dunks and what he can do.

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    This is because you have never see some of his dunks and what he can do.
    If you can find the clips I'd love to see them. Don't mind being proven wrong at all.

    of a game, by the way - tied with two minutes to go.

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    If you can find the clips I'd love to see them. Don't mind being proven wrong at all.

    of a game, by the way - tied with two minutes to go.
    Player of Lithuania and Moscow it would be very few clips of this player. Very few of games highlights from such places. But maybe there is some I will look.

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    If one of those three works out, I'd be delighted.

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    I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but on the subject of former Spurs playing over seas, James White! played a little for Fenerbahce this year.

    I've seen Splitter play 5 or 6 times, generally to encouraging results. He moves well in general, though I've seen him struggle a little with the likes of Marc Jackson (who spent a season or two in the NBA), and I seem to recall him struggling with Daniel Santiago as well, though that was much earlier in the season and my memory isn't the best. Both of those guys play pretty physical for the Euroleauge, so I wonder how Splitter will translate to the NBA.

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    Here is clip with few of highlights but must remember this very small size of total play. As can see when he go up he always can get foot above rim. Also he is more agile and quicker then Howard. Also as see he is quicker with jump then Howard. This is 6-11 player I think he is. Howard is bigger and stronger and he have I say longer arms and he finish dunk with more force maybe.

    Athletic mean many thing and I believe over all side of athletic yes Javtokas is more better or at least he is more by compare age. Because must remember Howard is at age where athletic level will be best of whole career and also he is not yet have injury and this can happen like do with Amare. Javtokas already have age some and have injury so his level is already have some drop but Howard can still have this any time just like Amare. The dunk like these player do make very hard on knees.

    Javtokas as can see look somehow like Biedrins in how he move and make play on court.


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    Maccabi Elite take over in the final two minutes and get the victory over Siena, 92-85. Don't think I saw Omri Casspi play the entire second half.

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    I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but on the subject of former Spurs playing over seas, James White! played a little for Fenerbahce this year.

    I've seen Splitter play 5 or 6 times, generally to encouraging results. He moves well in general, though I've seen him struggle a little with the likes of Marc Jackson (who spent a season or two in the NBA), and I seem to recall him struggling with Daniel Santiago as well, though that was much earlier in the season and my memory isn't the best. Both of those guys play pretty physical for the Euroleauge, so I wonder how Splitter will translate to the NBA.
    Marc Jackson was worst defender in centre position Greek league. He was cut from team Olympiacos because his defense so bad team was not even win games in Greek league. After he is cut from team they sudden become much better team one of best in Euroleague. His defense so poor it was big joke in Greece.

    Splitter must improve much when have "struggle" with such defender.

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    If we can get a decent young PG out of the draft or summer leaguers, Bonner + Vaughn for Tim Thomas, doesn't sound all that bad, if it works under CBA, right ?

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