For Rocket Fans Papaloukas Wants To Play In NBA

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You just make things up. Like say TRY LEARN about topic before assume. In his team TAU he is play off of Prigioni same exact way as off T-Mac. But no you assume he must be create everything in such "inferior league". Never occur to you there be players like Prigioni in his own team.

Didn't really understand half of that, but do you honestly think that a team with Luis Scola as their #1 option can be a le contender?

You just have this arrogant American at ude. I not blame you for why you have this because NBA hype machine never end and also ESPN with talks how NBA is like million times better than best leagues in Europe. But is NOT true.

No one said its a million times better. I just said its clearly superior, considering the BEST EURO PLAYERS play in the NBA. You have a very arrogant European at ude considering the stupid ass you say and ways that you keep saying that American players suck so bad and that these Euros are billions of times better than players that we have in the NBA.

Instead of argue these things try learn more about game all around world. European fans know ballers all over. American fans need stop be so ignorant and learn to. Just like Spurs and Rockets fans keep say "Scola only 6 rebounds in Europe he cannot play in NBA he will get only 2".

European fans dont know obviously if they think that some unknowns are instantly better than world known superstars.

I mention that is much HARDER get rebounds in Europe and is insult and ridicule here many same style posts as you make. But I am PROVEN right and they are proven WRONG.

Lame.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You should be in Rockets fan site with zero knowledge of game and arrogant at ude. If Dallas had player such as Papaloukas they can get out of first round of playoff actually.

If you ask Dirk if Papaloukas "suck" he will want to disown you as fan of his team.

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I really cannot wait till the Olympics, just to see Kobe, Dwight Howard, and Jason Kidd completely destroy all the "compe ion" and get the gold to shut idiots like this guy the up.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Didn't really understand half of that, but do you honestly think that a team with Luis Scola as their #1 option can be a le contender?



No one said its a million times better. I just said its clearly superior, considering the BEST EURO PLAYERS play in the NBA. You have a very arrogant European at ude considering the stupid ass you say and ways that you keep saying that American players suck so bad and that these Euros are billions of times better than players that we have in the NBA.



European fans dont know obviously if they think that some unknowns are instantly better than world known superstars.



Lame.

Team in Euroleague with Scola as #1 option CANNOT win championship either. What is stupid point you try make? He is not able lead any Europe team to tile either. Just keep act like you know all about these issues.

And NO stop with this "all best players of Europe is in NBA" it is NOT true. There are MANY players from Europe in NBA that are nothing but role player if even that in top level Euroleague teams. You just keep with these same BS lie statement because you are ignorant.

Only SOME SOME of best players from Europe come to NBA. This lie that you keep repeat that all best European players is in NBA is just typical of American fans that know nothing about game anywhere but US. Is so sad. Fans in Puerto Rico knows game of whole world. What is excuse for fans in US to be so ignorant of game and claims they know better than all other fans?

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You should be in Rockets fan site with zero knowledge of game and arrogant at ude. If Dallas had player such as Papaloukas they can get out of first round of playoff actually.

If you ask Dirk if Papaloukas "suck" he will want to disown you as fan of his team.

You should not be on a site like this period, with your complete lack of knowledge and debating ability. and take an english class for christs sake. if you are going to try to talk to me, and debate with me and insult me, then at least deliver it in an understandable manner.

Also, Dirk probably really couldn't care less what I think of this guy, considering that its fans like myself that pay to watch and support the team, which in turn leads to him getting paid so much. And I'm sure he would agree that there is no way in he is better than Jason Kidd.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I really cannot wait till the Olympics, just to see Kobe, Dwight Howard, and Jason Kidd completely destroy all the "compe ion" and get the gold to shut idiots like this guy the up.

We hear this before 2002 world championship. Big talk and how you will crush all other team. You get 6 place on home soil. We heard same before 2004 Olympic. US will destroy all others. You get bronze.

We hear how US "change everything" "make all adjustment and will this time have perfect team and cannot lose" before 2006 world championship. You get bronze again.

You brags about win gold in Americas championship. You brag about beat teams like Brazil, Puerto Rico and B team of Argentina not even A team of them. You brags about win tournament where same Argentina team of that tournament will not even finish above 10 place probable in Euro championship.

All this big talk not even scare mid level European clubs anymore. It certain not scare top Euro clubs or Argentina A team. You are 0 for last 3 in "we will crush everyone" last 3 major tournaments. I guess you are somehow go from be 3-5 best team to "crush everyone"

[stretch]

Team in Euroleague with Scola as #1 option CANNOT win championship either. What is stupid point you try make? He is not able lead any Europe team to tile either. Just keep act like you know all about these issues.

Because you are defending him so much like hes a great player. He is one of argentinas absolute best players, but he not capable of being much more than a #3 option. thus proving my point again that NBA compe ion is FAR greater (maybe not quite a million times greater, but quite close) than Euro compe ion.

And NO stop with this "all best players of Europe is in NBA" it is NOT true. There are MANY players from Europe in NBA that are nothing but role player if even that in top level Euroleague teams. You just keep with these same BS lie statement because you are ignorant.

Then what do you call Dirk? Gasol? Ginobili? Nash? are they not the best players from their countries? Kindly shut the up.

Only SOME SOME of best players from Europe come to NBA. This lie that you keep repeat that all best European players is in NBA is just typical of American fans that know nothing about game anywhere but US. Is so sad. Fans in Puerto Rico knows game of whole world. What is excuse for fans in US to be so ignorant of game and claims they know better than all other fans?

Whatever dude, I'm tired of arguing with you. I'll just say this... if these non NBA players are so ing great, then why the is it that the only teams that have won Gold other than the US, are led by stars in the NBA? (Gasol, Ginobili, Peja)

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You should not be on a site like this period, with your complete lack of knowledge and debating ability. and take an english class for christs sake. if you are going to try to talk to me, and debate with me and insult me, then at least deliver it in an understandable manner.

Also, Dirk probably really couldn't care less what I think of this guy, considering that its fans like myself that pay to watch and support the team, which in turn leads to him getting paid so much. And I'm sure he would agree that there is no way in he is better than Jason Kidd.

Papaloukas show Dirk in 2005 Euro championship what he can do. He would be beg Cuban to get such player if he think possible to get him. If you was really true Dirk or Dallas fan you would already know about Papaloukas. But no you is the arrogant US is only game in world "fan". You I guess do not even care about these other games Dirk plays.

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Papaloukas show Dirk in 2005 Euro championship what he can do. He would be beg Cuban to get such player if he think possible to get him. If you was really true Dirk or Dallas fan you would already know about Papaloukas. But no you is the arrogant US is only game in world "fan". You I guess do not even care about these other games Dirk plays.

Actually, he begged Cuban to get Jason Kidd. No mention of some no-name Euro though.

Fail.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Because you are defending him so much like hes a great player. He is one of argentinas absolute best players, but he not capable of being much more than a #3 option. thus proving my point again that NBA compe ion is FAR greater (maybe not quite a million times greater, but quite close) than Euro compe ion.



Then what do you call Dirk? Gasol? Ginobili? Nash? are they not the best players from their countries? Kindly shut the up.



Whatever dude, I'm tired of arguing with you. I'll just say this... if these non NBA players are so ing great, then why the is it that the only teams that have won Gold other than the US, are led by stars in the NBA? (Gasol, Ginobili)

Maybe you can talks with Sam Fisher or B-bob of Rockets fan site. You is about equal to them in Ugly American disease. So many good American fans here and ones like you ruin for all.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Actually, he begged Cuban to get Jason Kidd. No mention of some no-name Euro though.

Fail.

"no-name" you are pathetic. You are not even basketball fan. Even most casual of fan knows Papaloukas. You belong to clutchfan site this forum is wrong place for you.

[stretch]

We hear this before 2002 world championship. Big talk and how you will crush all other team. You get 6 place on home soil. We heard same before 2004 Olympic. US will destroy all others. You get bronze.

It was unfortunate, but many of our best players declined if you recall...

[stretch]

"no-name" you are pathetic. You are not even basketball fan. Even most casual of fan knows Papaloukas. You belong to clutchfan site this forum is wrong place for you.

then why isnt hardly anyone but you talking about this little er? you love europe a little too much... to the point where the world revolves around europe and you cannot accept the fact that american players are generally better. i got no problem admitting to great euros though. for instance, i think that Sabonis could have been one of the greatest players in NBA history had he come to the NBA sooner. I think Dirk will go down as a top 3 PF of all time. i think Ginobili is a of a player and the list goes on...

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

then why isnt hardly anyone but you talking about this little er? you love europe a little too much... to the point where the world revolves around europe and you cannot accept the fact that american players are generally better. i got no problem admitting to great euros though. for instance, i think that Sabonis could have been one of the greatest players in NBA history had he come to the NBA sooner. I think Dirk will go down as a top 3 PF of all time. i think Ginobili is a of a player and the list goes on...

You are JOKE. Why you keep insist make yourself look bad? He is one of most of famous players in WORLD. He is much more know player in WORLD then most NBA players. You really is person should be clutch fans site not here.

Let me help you since you are so stupid on issue

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_rdCa0A...leMode_on.html

Papaloukas will be receiving the FIBA Europe Player of the Year custom-designed trophy at a date to be announced.

Top 10 Results

Overall Rank Name Rank in panel vote Rank in fan vote Total Weighted Rank
1 Theo Papaloukas (GRE) 1 1 1.0
2 Pau Gasol (ESP) 2 2 2.0
3 Dirk Nowitzki (GER) 3 3 3.0
4 Jorge Garbajosa(ESP) 4 4 4.0
5 Juan Carlos Navarro (ESP) 5 6 5.3
6 Boris Diaw (FRA) 6 9 6.9
7 Vasileios Spanoulis (GRE) 7 7 7.0
8 Tony Parker (FRA) 8 8 8.0
9 JR Holden (RUS) 9 10 9.3
10 Jaka Lakovic (SLO) 9 11 9.6

http://eurobasket2005.fibaeurope.com...leMode_on.html

Germany's Dirk Nowitzki claimed the Most Valuable Player award at the 2005 EuroBasket and topped the compe ion's All-Tournament team.

Nowitzki won the honour - voted by international media representatives at Belgrade Arena - for leading Germany to Sunday's final against Greece. The Dallas Mavericks star went into the final as the tournament's leading scorer (26.7 ppg) and second-leading rebounder (10.8 rpg) and shot blocker (1.8 blpg).

Nowitzki carried his team, twice hitting shots in the final seconds to will Germany into the final and guaranteeing them their second EuroBasket medal following their gold medal at the 1993 championships in Munich.

Nowitzki was also voted by the media as the top power forward of the tournament.

He was joined on the All-Tournament team by Greek guards Theodoros Papaloukas (9.6 ppg and 2.4 rpg) and Dimitrios Diamantidis, who led the tournament in assists (5.0 per game) had 5.1 rebounds and 5.4 points a game. Diamantidis also hit a three-pointer in the waning seconds against France to move the Greeks into the final.

France's Boris Diaw was picked as the top small forward for his all around game (13.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.3 blpg) in leading the French to the bronze medal.

Spain's Juan Carlos Navarro was selected as the top shooting guard, averaging 25.2 points and 1.2 steals as well as hitting 69-79 (87.3 per cent) free throws for the fourth-placed Iberians.

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/06_...News_arti.html

FIBA - Gasol named MVP, headlines All-Tournament Team

SAITAMA (FIBA World Championship) - Despite not playing in Spain's historic victory over Greece in the final of the FIBA World Championship, Pau Gasol was selected as the tournament's Most Valuable Player.

Gasol missed the final after suffering a broken bone in his left foot during Spain's semi-final win over Argentina on Friday.

The power forward/center, who was cheering Spain from the sidelines in the final, averaged better than 21 points and nine rebounds as his team went undefeated in Japan.

"I'm very happy about the honor," Gasol said. "I tried to play as well as I could to help my team get this far. It was unfortunate that I couldn't play in the final because of my injury.

"But the job my team-mates did in this game was so amazing. And I'm so proud of them."

One journalist from each of the 16 eight-finalist nations selected the five-man squad.

Joining Gasol were his team-mate power forward Jorge Garbajosa, who had 20 points in the final, Team USA's small forward Carmelo Anthony, Argentina guard Manu Ginobili and Greece playmaker Theo Papaloukas.

Yes "all best European players is in NBA only" and yes "he is no-name no one ever hears of" even be name top European player, top 5 player of Europe, and top 5 player of world


And let me help you with this "US will crush these suck players"

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/06_...t_boxScor.html

8 point 5 rebound 12 assist for Papaloukas and Greece win US. Yes he is no way able compete with such "superior" players

[Indazone]

You should be in Rockets fan site with zero knowledge of game and arrogant at ude. If Dallas had player such as Papaloukas they can get out of first round of playoff actually.

If you ask Dirk if Papaloukas "suck" he will want to disown you as fan of his team.

Pleasssee we do not need Mavericks fans crossing over to the Rockets.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Pleasssee we do not need Mavericks fans crossing over to the Rockets.

Is Dallas-Houston same way as rivalry of Panathinaikos-Olympiakos?

[stretch]

You are JOKE. Why you keep insist make yourself look bad? He is one of most of famous players in WORLD. He is much more know player in WORLD then most NBA players. You really is person should be clutch fans site not here.

Let me help you since you are so stupid on issue

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_rdCa0A...leMode_on.html

Papaloukas will be receiving the FIBA Europe Player of the Year custom-designed trophy at a date to be announced.

Top 10 Results

Overall Rank Name Rank in panel vote Rank in fan vote Total Weighted Rank
1 Theo Papaloukas (GRE) 1 1 1.0
2 Pau Gasol (ESP) 2 2 2.0
3 Dirk Nowitzki (GER) 3 3 3.0
4 Jorge Garbajosa(ESP) 4 4 4.0
5 Juan Carlos Navarro (ESP) 5 6 5.3
6 Boris Diaw (FRA) 6 9 6.9
7 Vasileios Spanoulis (GRE) 7 7 7.0
8 Tony Parker (FRA) 8 8 8.0
9 JR Holden (RUS) 9 10 9.3
10 Jaka Lakovic (SLO) 9 11 9.6

http://eurobasket2005.fibaeurope.com...leMode_on.html

Germany's Dirk Nowitzki claimed the Most Valuable Player award at the 2005 EuroBasket and topped the compe ion's All-Tournament team.

Nowitzki won the honour - voted by international media representatives at Belgrade Arena - for leading Germany to Sunday's final against Greece. The Dallas Mavericks star went into the final as the tournament's leading scorer (26.7 ppg) and second-leading rebounder (10.8 rpg) and shot blocker (1.8 blpg).

Nowitzki carried his team, twice hitting shots in the final seconds to will Germany into the final and guaranteeing them their second EuroBasket medal following their gold medal at the 1993 championships in Munich.

Nowitzki was also voted by the media as the top power forward of the tournament.

He was joined on the All-Tournament team by Greek guards Theodoros Papaloukas (9.6 ppg and 2.4 rpg) and Dimitrios Diamantidis, who led the tournament in assists (5.0 per game) had 5.1 rebounds and 5.4 points a game. Diamantidis also hit a three-pointer in the waning seconds against France to move the Greeks into the final.

France's Boris Diaw was picked as the top small forward for his all around game (13.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.3 blpg) in leading the French to the bronze medal.

Spain's Juan Carlos Navarro was selected as the top shooting guard, averaging 25.2 points and 1.2 steals as well as hitting 69-79 (87.3 per cent) free throws for the fourth-placed Iberians.

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/06_...News_arti.html

FIBA - Gasol named MVP, headlines All-Tournament Team

SAITAMA (FIBA World Championship) - Despite not playing in Spain's historic victory over Greece in the final of the FIBA World Championship, Pau Gasol was selected as the tournament's Most Valuable Player.

Gasol missed the final after suffering a broken bone in his left foot during Spain's semi-final win over Argentina on Friday.

The power forward/center, who was cheering Spain from the sidelines in the final, averaged better than 21 points and nine rebounds as his team went undefeated in Japan.

"I'm very happy about the honor," Gasol said. "I tried to play as well as I could to help my team get this far. It was unfortunate that I couldn't play in the final because of my injury.

"But the job my team-mates did in this game was so amazing. And I'm so proud of them."

One journalist from each of the 16 eight-finalist nations selected the five-man squad.

Joining Gasol were his team-mate power forward Jorge Garbajosa, who had 20 points in the final, Team USA's small forward Carmelo Anthony, Argentina guard Manu Ginobili and Greece playmaker Theo Papaloukas.

Yes "all best European players is in NBA only" and yes "he is no-name no one ever hears of" even be name top European player, top 5 player of Europe, and top 5 player of world


And let me help you with this "US will crush these suck players"

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/06_...t_boxScor.html

8 point 5 rebound 12 assist for Papaloukas and Greece win US. Yes he is no way able compete with such "superior" players

Wrong.

Fail.

[endrity]

Is Dallas-Houston same way as rivalry of Panathinaikos-Olympiakos?

N O !!!!

European rivalries are much much much stronger than anything in the US. They are based on historical, cultural, political differences.

Pana-Olympikos, Real - Barca, Inter - Juventus (soccer), Roma - Lazio (soccer) are more than anything US fans can experience.

The only thing that comes close is Ohio State - Michigan in football, and Red Sox - Yankees in baseball.


p.s KillBill, enough already. First of all you fail to understand one main point that Stretch was making about Billy. When comparing only his Euroleague stats he had a worse season. Second, not everyone here watches FIBA ball. It's great that some do. And third, I live in Europe now and watch quite a bit of Euroleague. Stats, still matter!!! What happens, is that there are fewer minutes to play, and a slower pace of the game, that is why the numbers are always in smaller quan ies.
Actually once you adjust for pace and minutes played, and this is an opinion NBA Stats experts also confirm, Euroleageu stats tranlate pretty well to the NBA, even better than college stats.

[MajorMike]

because our door to championship is quickly closing.

Lawl, try your door to the second round.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Well Papaloukas today is let out of contract from CSKA Moscow and he sign with Olympiacos. This because no NBA team is willing offer as much as Olympiacos do. He will make what is equal $7 million US tax free per year.

Is sad that NBA cannot afford pay such player what he wants so he never get chance to play in NBA. Anyway we have him now back in Greece and once again we keep make Greek league stronger.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'm totally craving a gyro

[CubanMustGo]

Is sad that NBA cannot afford pay such player what he wants so he never get chance to play in NBA. Anyway we have him now back in Greece and once again we keep make Greek league stronger.

He had a chance and he ed it up. Nobody in the NBA is going to overpay a pussy who didn't deliver anything but excuses while he was here. And for the 750,000th time the Greek League <<<<<<<<< the NBA, if they want to overpay then God bless 'em. End of story.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

He had a chance and he ed it up. Nobody in the NBA is going to overpay a pussy who didn't deliver anything but excuses while he was here. And for the 750,000th time the Greek League <<<<<<<<< the NBA, if they want to overpay then God bless 'em. End of story.

What? Papaloukas never play in NBA. This summer he was offer MLE by Raptors and Pistons (when is able for them to offer him contract) but he get much more money from Olympiacos.

[Marcus Bryant]

Oh great, another ty Greek player for whom Billy will turn into a 10 page thread.

[CubanMustGo]

Oh great, another ty Greek player for whom Billy will turn into a 10 page thread.

Yeah, I screwed the pooch on this one, didn't know KBP would ever post about anyone else. -1 for me.