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they arent your lakers
Don't have a clue, but my Lakers will make none.
they arent your lakers
In your world!
your team is the rockets
uh, my team is the Lakers, deal with it!
Kobe knocked down a bunch of huge shots in the last 2 minutes in Lebron's face during the team USA intra scrimmage. Kobe then forced Lebronze into a bad shot on the other end.
While Lebron did get the best of Kobe down the stretch of the last game they played (not the first one) Kobe outplayed him for the previous 40 minutes before his teammates decided to completely disappear. This was right after Bynum got hurt so the team was struggling somewhat.
Oh yeah, 'regular season'. Kobe would destroy Lebron and his 41% shooting in the playoffs.
no it isnt
Okay, you're a ing idiot.
referencing a scrimmage
Yeah I forgot that Kobe was schooling Lebron so bad in the final 2 minutes of that game they took him off Kobe and put Prince on him for the last shot. It was funny.
referencing a regular season game
That team usa game was better basketball than 100% of the regular season that was played this year. Both teams were out there to win.
I guess it's something you had to witness where you had to be there, such a golden game that would go down in the annals of history. I deeply regret taking last summer for granted now.
Weren't the announcers saying that about the All-Star game this year as well?Both teams were out there to win.
"Both teams want to win now.. it's on now, " during the fourth quarter. "This is getting exciting! "
Yeah you're stupid. First off, a bunch of those guys were playing for a spot on the Team USA roster. If you actually watched the game you would know it was more compe ive than any All-Star game ever. Defintely trumped any meaningless regular season December/January game in terms of intesity.
Are you in re ed? LeBron is 23 years old and he's already carried his incredibly bad team to the Finals.
Do you even know how old Michael was when he got his first championship? 27. LeBron is 4 years away from that. And Kobe is what, 30, and he's just now on the brink of winning his first as the leader of the team?
If anything, LeBron's career path suggests that he's on pace to beat out both Jordan and Kobe. Not saying it will happen, but to say his career path doesn't put him at Kobe & MJ's level is straight up stupid.
I disagree. At 22 years old, he led his team single-handedly to the Finals and put up 25 straight points against the Pistons. At TWENTY-TWO. I don't like LeBron that much, but damn if he is not an amazing talent. If he had a shot like Kobe, LeBron would be averaging 40 points a game. He and Kobe are probably the toughest covers in the league. Kobe can shoot from anywhere but LeBron is so damn strong and explosive.
He's already averaging 30+ a game and he's 23 right now.
Think about that. Kid is nowhere close to his prime.
You missed the point. All games are compe ive. Put a bunch of compe ive players of all star talent, you're going to see "intensity" surface when the games are close, regardless.
I could use your logic to support the meaning OF a January regular season game citing their significance.
Let me add that since Jordan retired, Tim Duncan has probably been the best player, in terms of leading his team and winning les, MVPs, Finals MVPs, etc. Shaq was only really good in the Laker 3-peat. He slowed down noticeably afterwards.
However, Kobe Bryant has been the best offensive player and a great defensive player. He IS MJ v2.0. He has always been an amazing player and this year he has really stepped his game up. Like 1Parker1 said, he knows when to take over, when to get his teammates involved, and can take the game over whenever he wants. You think you got Kobe under control and then he puts up 27 points on you in a half like it's nothing.
Leading up to this, Tim Duncan has been the most complete and best player in terms of his team's success because he was the driving force and the main reason the Spurs have 4 les. But Kobe Bryant, in terms of individual talent, is far better than anyone else has been. Miles ahead.
Kobe and MJ always played for the same team and you knew it THAT team would be a champion sooner or later. The Cavaliers aren't going to win a championship, their roster moves have been very questionable. Without a wholesale change of that roster, they're not going anywhere.
Ben Wallace is signed at $14 Million in 09/2010
Their entire roster is basically locked up next year for another early Playoff exit.
LeBron has a screwed up career path. The Cavs aren't a big free agent market. Their "big trade" brought in Wally Sczerbiak and Joe Smith...what hope does LeBron have of winning a championship with the Cavaliers?
LeBron probably will not stay in Cleveland dude. He is destined for a large market.
I agree, but that's not going to happen until 2011. This is why LeBron is at a major disadvantage. He's going to need to get traded before he starts winning.
Then after he gets traded or walks, he's going to have to get to know his team. LeBron will have a max contract which means any contending team needs to gut in order to get him. Scrub teams wouldn't have the pieces. They'll have to build around him....his new team won't start being serious probably until 2014.
Lebron's a phenomenal player but his career path probably won't allow him to overtake Kobe or MJ for number of rings. He would have "wasted" (no disrespect to Cleveland fans) his last 4 years and the next 2 years with the Cavs and then another 3 years building with his new team.
Last edited by Allanon; 06-05-2008 at 01:51 PM.
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Yes
Any student of the game can clearly see Lebron isn't close to as talented or polished as Kobe. His skillset is limited in comparison, whereas Bryant is pretty much developed in all areas.
A lot of people are bringing up this season's stats as a comparison to why Lebron is better, but stats are misleading. For starters, Lebron James touches the ball on every single possession and has literally nobody around him to help out scoring wise. He carries the same burden that Kobe carried the last two seasons, so obviously his scoring is going to be better than Kobe. His assist numbers are also inflated since he is essentially the PG of the team, whereas Kobe plays in the triangle offense. Let's not forget he also plays in a weaker EC which further inflates his stats.
The bottom line is stats aren't really a useful comparator between these two players.
So then what is a useful "comparator" between these two players?
Are you telling us that we are just supposed to believe in your opinion, when you didn't really state anything that proves Kobe is so much better?
And is "comparator" even a word? If so, I've never heard it, so forgive me.
and still i think its funny how lakers fans are just obsessed with lebron, and finding ways to discredit the guy, yet claim "Kobe is light years ahead of him". if he is so much better, then why compare the two in the first place?
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