Splitter signs a four-year extension with Tau

[Buddy Holly]

Hes never coming to the NBA.

Wtf.

He has a out clause in 2010, who'd to say never?

Who knows, maybe he doesn't, trading his rights in a package with players, future picks, money isn't going to mean .

That was my point.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Oh, come on TPark, don't be obtuse.

Trade the pick. Set up a trade. Look other international players who might actually be available.

I'm not saying only draft Americans. I'm saying that they have GOT to STOP blowing the picks. YEARS of wasted picks now. There are other options besides wasting a first round pick (that apparently negatively affects then) on a player who may be unable to come over or contribute. This is not the first time the Spurs have been ed by this .

You've got to realize, we could trade Duncan to the Mavs for Dampier, Devean George, and a couple of sixers of Natty Light and TPark would still defend our front office.

[T Park]

He has a out clause in 2010, who'd to say never?

Who knows, maybe he doesn't, trading his rights in a package with players, future picks, money isn't going to mean .

That was my point.

Why would he take a pay cut to come to the NBA?

[T Park]

You've got to realize, we could trade Duncan to the Mavs for Dampier, Devean George, and a couple of sixers of Natty Light and TPark would still defend our front office.

Pop could win 5 rings in a row and you'd still that the 6th was never gotten.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Timvp and everyone else who has told you the stories about the Josh Howard draft and what not must be "as dense" as well.

So you don't think after the Josh Howard incident that Pop got more involved?

You honestly don't believe that the head coach of a team gives his GM any input on the types of players he wants on his team?

Tilt-a-whirl...

[tp2021]

Spurs will probably hold onto him. It'd be difficult to give him away at this point and he doesn't cost anything. If he doesn't make the jump in 2010, the Spurs will renounce his rights if they are going to follow through with the 2010 plan and try to open up caproom.

Basically, he'll have one more chance to come over in 2010 but no way he comes over that year. He'd have to take like pennies on the dollar to make the jump. Plus, RC and the Spurs are much more pissed than we are ... so I think that bridge is burned beyond repair.

Basically, the Spurs will either hold his worthless rights until comes the point they have to renounce his rights to open cap space.

well, . would there possibly be an increased interest in him once he nears the year of his buyout option or the end of his contract? it sucks that he wont be helping us, but what sucks even more is that he is actually hurting us by not coming over.

[easjer]

Spurs should have had at least two rookies to bring in, rather than, saying "eh, we're winning now, we can cut costs by waiting for them without having to develop them on our own bench, in the mean time cut more costs by signing cheap FA"

Well, yes and no. At this point last year, I was comfortable with the Spurs standing pat and bringing over Ian to develop.

It was a risk, and ultimately, it didn't pay off, but I don't think it was necessarily the wrong move. Has injuries not occurred when they did, they would have been playing tonight - I really believe that.

Had LA not gotten Gasol, the West would have been the same old story, with a twist of NO. At that point, there was no reason to change.

On the other hand, having some new blood to train up would have been nice. Marcus Williams or DWash panning out would have been desirable (or not wasting time or money on them otherwise).

[SequSpur]

Sorry but Splitter never "promised" he was coming to the NBA this summer. He might have said he planned on it, hoped to, wanted to, or whatever. But he didn't ever promise anything.

Things change all the time. He has family concerns. He's guaranteed playing time there. Lots more money. House/cars paid for. He's comfortable there. He knows what to expect for the coaches/organization/environment. There was a lot working against the Spurs. And I'm not sure they went there and tried to sell him either ... the Spurs don't beg people to play for them and maybe that's what it would take to convince him he was wanted/needed. If I was Splitter, I probably wouldn't come either.

So basically you're saying the Spurs organization is overrated, blowing smoke and full of .

Just as I thought.


They raise ticket prices, they over the gas guzzling, poor ass, broke taxpayers by raising taxes for an arena upgrade, and now they can't draw a foreign basketball player x 2. (Scola)

Nice.

[Buddy Holly]

Why would he take a pay cut to come to the NBA?

Again, if he's never coming over, nothing can come of trading his rights to a team that is gullible.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Always easy to play armchair quarterback

Hey, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. We have been a successful team so you can only blame them so much.
Read the tone, and you'll see I'm just trying to be an objective fan.

Has the Scola and NOW Splitter debacle NOT been a cause of International conflicts between expected salaries vs. salaries over there in Europe. Having a european agent and then an american one?? Getting two sides of the information. They're both serving their own interests.
TAU probably fed Splitter information about how "Pop will never let you play, your first year..." "You can make 8 times more here, U.S. has nothing to offer much" this and that. Come on man. I'm not calling into question not about the cause of our ups. I'm just pissed about the results. The international drafting is biting us in the ass now.


We all have minds, you don't have to be an expert to read from the information reported from the news. You can be corrected for sure, but it's pretty ing obvious Scola was a drafting failure, and now Splitter is our second one.

[Buddy Holly]

So basically you're saying the Spurs organization is overrated, blowing smoke and full of .

Just as I thought.


They raise ticket prices, they over the gas guzzling, poor ass, broke taxpayers by raising taxes for an arena upgrade, and now they can't draw a foreign basketball player x 2. (Scola)

Nice.

Aside from that description probably describing you to the T, except you forgot the "short as , ugly as " part, the Spurs didn't raise any taxes you re .

The citizens voted to extend the use of a tax already in play not raise it.

[T Park]

Hey, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. We have been a successful team so you can only blame them so much.
Read the tone, and you'll see I'm just trying to be an objective fan.

Has the Scola and NOW Splitter debacle NOT been a cause of International conflicts between expected salaries vs. salaries over there in Europe. Having a european agent and then an american one?? Getting two sides of the information. They're both serving their own interests.
TAU probably fed Splitter information about how "Pop will never let you play, your first year..." "You can make 8 times more here, U.S. has nothing to offer much" this and that. Come on man. I'm not calling into question not about the cause of our ups. I'm just pissed about the results. The international drafting is biting us in the ass now.


We all have minds, you don't have to be an expert to read from the information reported from the news. You can be corrected for sure, but it's pretty ing obvious Scola was a drafting failure, and now Splitter is our second one.

Scola was a luxury tax casualty.

The Spurs believed Splitter was coming over.


Nothing more you can say about it.

[Mr. Body]

So basically you're saying the Spurs organization is overrated, blowing smoke and full of .

Just as I thought.


They raise ticket prices, they over the gas guzzling, poor ass, broke taxpayers by raising taxes for an arena upgrade, and now they can't draw a foreign basketball player x 2. (Scola)

Nice.

Overreacting or not, they sold off part of this past year in preparation for a lineup they expected next year. That is, they gave up Scola for shekels because they fully expected Splitter to come in. It was a wreck from the start of it.

If we had Scola, we might have found scoring during the horrid droughts in the playoffs. Might have gotten Odom or Gasol in foul trouble...

We don't repeat because we keep making colossally boneheaded personnel decisions (or indecisions). It's not the players' fault; it's been Buford all this time. (Send him out fishing on the lake.)

[ducks]

So basically you're saying the Spurs organization is overrated, blowing smoke and full of .

Just as I thought.


They raise ticket prices, they over the gas guzzling, poor ass, broke taxpayers by raising taxes for an arena upgrade, and now they can't draw a foreign basketball player x 2. (Scola)

Nice.

spurs give players the honest answer
that is not overrated

[SequSpur]

I'm so tired of drafting foreigners that are either soft, ty or show up every 4th game.

Retool.

[Kori Ellis]

So basically you're saying the Spurs organization is overrated, blowing smoke and full of .

Just as I thought.


They raise ticket prices, they over the gas guzzling, poor ass, broke taxpayers by raising taxes for an arena upgrade, and now they can't draw a foreign basketball player x 2. (Scola)

Nice.

No, I'm saying that if someone offered you to stay where you are and flourish, or one-eighth the salary to go half way round the world and no commitment to you, that you'd probably stay where you are and have Lorie make you another pie.

[timvp]

Pop didn't have anything to do with Splitter

RC scouted him. RC talked to him before the draft. RC worked him out before the draft. RC basically told Pop this is our Plan B in the draft and Pop watched some tape and said okay. Pop doesn't have time to win a championship and then turn around and immerse himself in the draft with like a week to prepare. Seriously, WTF? Pop couldn't have known anything about Splitter if he wanted to with that short turnaround time.

Splitter was 100% RC and RC once again fvcked it up. At least with the Scola fvckup the Spurs were able to make Peter Holt some money. This time the Spurs don't get anything other than laughed at by the rest of the basketball world ... especially Tau.

[T Park]

So basically you're saying the Spurs organization is overrated, blowing smoke and full of .

Just as I thought.


They raise ticket prices, they over the gas guzzling, poor ass, broke taxpayers by raising taxes for an arena upgrade, and now they can't draw a foreign basketball player x 2. (Scola)

Nice.

The taxpayers of bexar county don't pay the tax for the arena upgrade, that won't even be done until 2011.

[ChumpDumper]

Cool -- more minutes for Rod Benson

[T Park]

Pop didn't have anything to do with Splitter

RC scouted him. RC talked to him before the draft. RC worked him out before the draft. RC basically told Pop this is our Plan B in the draft and Pop watched some tape and said okay. Pop doesn't have time to win a championship and then turn around and immerse himself in the draft with like a week to prepare. Seriously, WTF? Pop couldn't have known anything about Splitter if he wanted to with that short turnaround time.

Splitter was 100% RC and RC once again fvcked it up. At least with the Scola fvckup the Spurs were able to make Peter Holt some money. This time the Spurs don't get anything other than laughed at by the rest of the basketball world ... especially Tau.

Its either RC, or Dennis Lindsey.

Pick your poison

[SequSpur]

Aside from that description probably describing you to the T, except you forgot the "short as , ugly as " part, the Spurs didn't raise any taxes you re .

The citizens voted to extend the use of a tax already in play not raise it.

whatever fast and furious.

same different day.

[T Park]

I have no clue what I'm talking about.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Pop could win 5 rings in a row and you'd still that the 6th was never gotten.

I actually have given Pop his due after both rings 3 and 4.

You, on the other hand, still think his and the front office's doesn't stink.

Meanwhile, here's RC and Pop's handiwork since 1999:

Worked out:

Manu
Tony

Nothing to show for it/Spurs got boned over:

Carrawell (2000)
Bryan Bracey (2001)
Javtokas (2001)
Salmons (2002) - rotation player for Sacramento
Scola (2002) - stud given to Houston for
Randy Holcomb (2002) - where is he now
Barbosa (2003) - traded to Phoenix for jack and
Udrih (2004) - walked, rotation player for Sacto now
Romain Sato (2004)
Karaulov (2004)
2005 - Ian - TBD
2006 - Damir Markota
2007 - Tiago
2007 - Marcus Williams
2007 - Girgos Printezis

I'm even having a hard time coming up with a team that has done such a ty job the last 8 years with draft picks (Manu and Tony don't make up for all the other ups).

[2centsworth]

Scola wasn't a drafting failure. I blame our cheap owner more on that one.

[T Park]

I actually have given Pop his due after both rings 3 and 4.

You, on the other hand, still think his and the front office's doesn't stink.

Meanwhile, here's RC and Pop's handiwork since 1999:

Worked out:

Manu
Tony

Nothing to show for it/Spurs got boned over:

Carrawell (2000)
Bryan Bracey (2001)
Javtokas (2001)
Salmons (2002) - rotation player for Sacramento
Scola (2002) - stud given to Houston for
Randy Holcomb (2002) - where is he now
Barbosa (2003) - traded to Phoenix for jack and
Udrih (2004) - walked, rotation player for Sacto now
Romain Sato (2004)
Karaulov (2004)
2005 - Ian - TBD
2006 - Damir Markota
2007 - Tiago
2007 - Marcus Williams
2007 - Girgos Printezis

I'm even having a hard time coming up with a team that has done such a ty job the last 8 years with draft picks (Manu and Tony don't make up for all the other ups).

I wanted Presti to stay and RC to go.


Keep with the head in your ass though.