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no
if he messes around and gets hurt
jr smith is more valuable then manu
a 60% manu is useless compared to 110% jr smith
yeah that makes since so the spurs will do what they want and trade him to a deadbeat team and lets see how great he really is and how many rings he gets
no
if he messes around and gets hurt
jr smith is more valuable then manu
a 60% manu is useless compared to 110% jr smith
Unless Spurs get equal value for Manu. Both Manu and the Spurs aren't winning rings.
At best they'd keep coming up short like the early 2000's.
depends on what they do in fa's and draft
spurs will win rings without manu one day
just like the spurs would never get a player like david robinson
then they got duncan
Lebron
I know he does, but he was instrumental in only two of those championships.Manu has 3 rings.
No Manu = Spurs 2 rings.
Precisely what I'm saying
Isn't that what he did in the regular season, when Parker was injured and Duncan was sucking (tank games)?
Remeber those games were he carried the team? Basically no Manu and the Spurs barely make the play offs this year.
You ing .
You mean Duncan and Bowen?
The way i see it . This boils down to his health and pro-longing his career. If you're getting paid 9 mill to play the game you love and on the best stage then thats where your priorities should lie. Manu of all peolple would put compe iveness over contentment so the idea of feeling like he's done his bit for the Spurs with 3 rings is just crazy. Going through the disappoinment of not being able to give his best shot at repeating would be still freshh on his mind.
He's already won the gold medal for Argentina. Maybe you're in the wrong for assuming he owes it to Argentina to risk his career with the Spurs. Manu will not do what-ever he likes since he's certainly not stupid.
As long as there is a contract, they owe him money. If they feel Manu should not play for the Argie NT, and Manu plays, then they can trade him. It has not been the case in the past. Manu has played in a couple of summers, and has not played in others, such as the last summer when he felt his body needed a rest.
He will decide if he is fit or not to play this year in Beijing, depending if he is is healthy or not. He is a big boy and can decide for himself. He is also a pretty responsible athlete, and has proven this through the years.
Manu Ginobili's job, i.e. how he earns his income, is playing basketball for the San Antonio Spurs.
That is understood, but the NT is the NT team. Nobody has the right to stop a man from representing his country.
To play basketball, he makes more than 98% of the planet.
And?
His less than stellar condition was instrumental in the Spurs not winning a championship this year
His amazing regular season was the reason the Spurs ever made it to the playoffs.
NEXT
and should he play this summer, that condition will likely worsen.
And how do you know this? When did you get your medical degree?
Agreed.Sounds to me like the employer has every right to be concerned and vigilant here.
Opinions are like assholes.The minute Manu gets on the court in Beijing, Pop (or his brain fart of a partner, RC Buford) needs to make it a priority to move him while his stock is relatively high.
I remeber back in 2004, after Manu had a terrible game, you were of the same opinion, that Manu had to be traded. Boy were you wrong!
I'm with you. It is a business. Again, if Manu does something the Spurs are totally against, they should trade him. They can't force them not to do it.It's business Smeagol.
All I'm saying is that Manu is a responsible, grown up individual. He listens to what Pop says and he reacts accordingly. But he also loves his country and knows this will be the last time he can play in the Olympics.
At the end of the day, trust he will make the right choice.
The Spurs need a 2 guard that can play NBA minutes without breaking down when the 's on the line.
WTF? Everybody gets injured. When has Manu been injured in another key moment (ie, playoffs) that has cost us? Youn have no ing memory.
Manu, despite playing bench minutes is consistently nursing some type of wound and this time it cost us.
Manu is as productive playing bench minutes as any other AS playing 40 minutes. Who the cares he plays bench minutes. IIRC Duncan and Parker missed plenty of games during the regular season.
Manu had an ankle injury which was totally random. It had nothing to do with the way he plays the game. Your argument about him being a bench player or being constantly injured is bull .
Manu makes less money than so many scrubs, the list would occupy another three pages on this thread.
Manu is more productive in those 28 minutes, than your so called other players who play 35 and make as much as Manu.
yeah playing 2830 minutes a game
where most players that get paid what he does play 35-40
Are you a Spurs fan? Do you watch Manu day in and day out? Do you understand what he brings to the table?
, all you care about is bashing Manu.
How about, You, ing idiot.
If Manu values the Olympics over an NBA championship, then he's not the compe or some make him out to be.
Now that makes little sense, even for a moron such as yourself.
The NBA Championship is the REAL World Championship
Keep the moronic statements coming . . .
and as he's on our payroll,
So you own the man's soul?
the ONLY team he needs to worry about suiting up for the Spurs.
You need a doze of reality.
this thread gets lamer every day.
just a hypothetical, if manu doesnt play in the olympics and STILL never recovers from this injury and becomes "grant hill" as so many are implying will automatically happen by participating in the olympics, will you all blame pop for riding him for 17 playoff games despite being injured (and ineffective to boot)? will you blame the other spurs' frailty/suckiness (parker, brent, duncan, bonner, finley) for forcing pop to ride him?? or will it still be argentina's fault, for playing manu last summer? oh wait, that didnt happen. i'm sure there's another reason for it to be argentina or manu's fault though. there's no way playing him on the injured ankle for 17 games could have anything to do with his current condition
this team doesnt deserve the fans it has. the same part of manu that let pop play him in the playoffs is the one that wants to play in the olympics, but spurs fans only like that about him when it suits them.
And you got his name 1000% wrong
Transalation:
I hate Manu because Parker lives in his shadow.
You are beyond cure.
Painfully true.
Wow... it's amazing how athletes become public domain once they become valuable. We can all have our opinions and there will obviously be influencers in the final decision, but it's Manu's life and, when all is said and done, he's the one who has to live with the decisions he makes. I think it's being ignored that it's probably killing him that he even has to make this kind of decision. An athlete's worse nightmare is injury. I'm sure he's more concerned about this injury affecting him long-term than short-term.
Ducks been a supporter of Manu off the bench strategy, therefore the reduced minutes. So it doesn't make sense for him to be ing about Manu not keeping up with the services of his contract.
Manu actually asked Pop to increase his minutes to 35, or at least stated that's what he would prefer. You can't really argue with him and his irrational resentments. He's a little cuckoo.
smeagol...I'm your fan now
that hurts
100% agree
First of all Pop isn't trading Manu. He just isn't. Why? Because he's our best scorer and playmaker right now, whether he's coming off the bench or starting.
Secondly, he shouldn't play for Argentina this year if he values NBA Championships. He'll ruin his career and could have the Spurs rethinking signing him to an extension when his contract runs out in a couple of years.
I think Azabuke would be a better fit than JR Smith because he plays defense and wouldn't be a headcase for Pop to deal with. I think at this point in his career, Pop just doesn't have the patience to deal with guys like him (no defense/doesn't listen).
We can't forget that the Spurs are targeting the 2010 offseason to really reload.
So bottom line... let's all calm down and se what Manu does. Hopefully he uses his head and not his heart.
Let's not forget that if Manu wouldn’t have won the Olympic Gold and by doing so beating the out of TD/Pop's team, our beloved coach wouldn't have ever considered him a borderline superstar. Manu would've remained a very good role player at most in Poop's mind…And admit it, in some of yours too.
BTW they r already in contract extension convos.
HAHAHHA
So true
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