MYSA: Ginobili might miss Olympics with ankle injury

[Athenea]

this thread gets lamer every day.

just a hypothetical, if manu doesnt play in the olympics and STILL never recovers from this injury and becomes "grant hill" as so many are implying will automatically happen by participating in the olympics, will you all blame pop for riding him for 17 playoff games despite being injured (and ineffective to boot)? will you blame the other spurs' frailty/suckiness (parker, brent, duncan, bonner, finley) for forcing pop to ride him?? or will it still be argentina's fault, for playing manu last summer? oh wait, that didnt happen. i'm sure there's another reason for it to be argentina or manu's fault though. there's no way playing him on the injured ankle for 17 games could have anything to do with his current condition

this team doesnt deserve the fans it has. the same part of manu that let pop play him in the playoffs is the one that wants to play in the olympics, but spurs fans only like that about him when it suits them.

Flip-flop fans...same'ol same'ol

[brespursfan20]

I would like to know why there are so many people who are obviously not spurs fans on this message board??...Without Manu, Timmy, or Tony the Spurs would not be the Spurs!! I really hope he gets better and then we won't have to worry about him playing for Argentina or the Spurs...He can do both! With the Big 3 we can definately win another championship!! GO SPURS GO!!!!!

[T Park]

I'm glad to see the Argentinian contingent coming in to vilify anyone who thinks Ginobili should put the team who he makes his living off of ahead of silly offseason crap.

[T Park]

I would like to know why there are so many people who are obviously not spurs fans on this message board??...Without Manu, Timmy, or Tony the Spurs would not be the Spurs!! I really hope he gets better and then we won't have to worry about him playing for Argentina or the Spurs...He can do both! With the Big 3 we can definately win another championship!! GO SPURS GO!!!!!

So someone who believes he should rest this summer so hes 100% for the Spurs, is not a Spurs fan?


ooook.

[pawe]

He doesnt have a lot of basketball time left on his body that's why playing in the olympics is so appealing to him. I doubt the argie NT would invite him for the next olympics squad after 4 years more of NBA basketball. I think he should play if the doctors give him a go signal, If he aggravates the injury then he can heal before the playoffs anyway.

[smeagol]

I'm glad to see the Argentinian contingent coming in to vilify anyone who thinks Ginobili should put the team who he makes his living off of ahead of silly offseason crap.

I'm glad to see the simple-minded, USA-centric, miopic USA contigent vilifying the Argentines because, in their sad little one sided view of life, they think Manu's soul belongs to the Spurs.

[beirmeistr]

As long as there is a contract, they owe him money. If they feel Manu should not play for the Argie NT, and Manu plays, then they can trade him. It has not been the case in the past. Manu has played in a couple of summers, and has not played in others, such as the last summer when he felt his body needed a rest.

He will decide if he is fit or not to play this year in Beijing, depending if he is is healthy or not. He is a big boy and can decide for himself. He is also a pretty responsible athlete, and has proven this through the years.





That is understood, but the NT is the NT team. Nobody has the right to stop a man from representing his country.





And?





His amazing regular season was the reason the Spurs ever made it to the playoffs.

NEXT






And how do you know this? When did you get your medical degree?




Agreed.




Opinions are like assholes.

I remeber back in 2004, after Manu had a terrible game, you were of the same opinion, that Manu had to be traded. Boy were you wrong!



I'm with you. It is a business. Again, if Manu does something the Spurs are totally against, they should trade him. They can't force them not to do it.

All I'm saying is that Manu is a responsible, grown up individual. He listens to what Pop says and he reacts accordingly. But he also loves his country and knows this will be the last time he can play in the Olympics.

At the end of the day, trust he will make the right choice.





WTF? Everybody gets injured. When has Manu been injured in another key moment (ie, playoffs) that has cost us? Youn have no ing memory.





Manu is as productive playing bench minutes as any other AS playing 40 minutes. Who the cares he plays bench minutes. IIRC Duncan and Parker missed plenty of games during the regular season.

Manu had an ankle injury which was totally random. It had nothing to do with the way he plays the game. Your argument about him being a bench player or being constantly injured is bull .

Right on, Smeagol.

[ducks]

I know he does, but he was instrumental in only two of those championships.

No Manu = Spurs 2 rings.

yeah because spurs could not have gotten someone else liek jaren jackson to come up big in playoffs

[ducks]

HAHAHHA
So true

no

I already know unless tp gets traded the spurs will rebuild around him
not manu

I have been a spurs fan since david robinson.
How long have you been a fan


if tp signs his next contract with lakers I will be a spur fan and still hate the lakers

[phxspurfan]

no if he messes around and gets hurt

What if he messes around and gets a triple double

[smeagol]

yeah because spurs could not have gotten someone else liek jaren jackson to come up big in playoffs

jaren jackson = Manu ?????????????

Please make a poll about this one, oh imbecile one . . .

[ducks]

I am not saying manu is jaren jackson
I am just saying sometimes other players step up.


You act like noone ever could replace manu

[ducks]

What if he messes around and gets a triple double

beings he is hurt more then he gets those I would not think it would be very possible

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I am not saying manu is jaren jackson
I am just saying sometimes other players step up.


You act like noone ever could replace manu

People can make up for his production


Manu's kind of like Robert Horry though....it'll be rare to find a guy who does the little things he does that makes coaches envy Pop.

[spurschick]

There was life before Manu and there will be life after Manu. We should all be grateful for the time we have with our favorite athletes. His countrymen should be grateful for his many years with the national team and his contributions to its success. Spurs fans should be grateful for the 3 out of 4 championships the franchise wouldn't have won without him.

All of that being said....

you, basketball gods. Take more hair out of his head and leave the ankles alone. We're all not done with him yet.

[rj215]

There was life before Manu and there will be life after Manu. We should all be grateful for the time we have with our favorite athletes. His countrymen should be grateful for his many years with the national team and his contributions to its success. Spurs fans should be grateful for the 3 out of 4 championships the franchise wouldn't have won without him.

All of that being said....

you, basketball gods. Take more hair out of his head and leave the ankles alone. We're all not done with him yet.

I wonder what all the pro-Manu folks would say if he gets even more hurt playing for Argentina? What if it costs him the begining of next season or worse what if it causes him to never be healthy for '08-'09? I don't know about you guys but as a REAL SPURS FAN first, I'd say sit this one out Manu. Everyone already knows how much you love your country and I doubt they'd hate you for trying to get healthy. Afterall your injury has gotten WORSE since you've been resting....that's gotta tell you something.

[Marcus Bryant]

I don't really give a about the Olympics. It at least was somewhat interesting when pros weren't allowed to play.

The Big 3 could probably each use a break this summer. It looks like TP is making the most of his.

Tony's always been a top 5 favorite Spur for me anyways.

[taps]

Transalation:

I hate Manu because Parker lives in his shadow.

Are you talking about 2007 Playoffs MVP Tony Parker? Why are you taking this out on Tony? What has he done to you? Didn't he go basket-for-basket with CP3 in the WCSF? This team has always been about players filling needs when Pop & staff see a weakness they can exploit, not relying on MJ going nuts night in and out (that's Jackson's weakness.) TD was big in Rd 1, TP9 in WCSF, Brent in the WCF.

I already know unless tp gets traded the spurs will rebuild around him

My sentiments exactly.

"All right, listen. Next time something like this happens I want you to stop, take a deep breath, and pull your heads out of each other's asses."

[TMTTRIO]

^even if Manu gets healthy enough to play I'm also concerned about him staying healthy and not getting reinjured but I understand how much he loves his country and wants to play for them. If he can heal I would say go for it. I do think that we need to get a younger athletic swingman so we can not rely and play him so much next year and can save him for the playoffs.

[carina_gino20]

Wow... it's amazing how athletes become public domain once they become valuable. We can all have our opinions and there will obviously be influencers in the final decision, but it's Manu's life and, when all is said and done, he's the one who has to live with the decisions he makes. I think it's being ignored that it's probably killing him that he even has to make this kind of decision. An athlete's worse nightmare is injury. I'm sure he's more concerned about this injury affecting him long-term than short-term.

BINGO. We all give free reign to our opinions because it's a messageboard. But we're all just fans enjoying the show. Will some of you please cut down on the hate and just imagine how the guy has to be feeling right now? It's the same as when they lose games, or have another championship run end prematurely. We get disappointed, curse them, and blow off steam for a couple of days, maybe a week. But THEY carry the stigma, not us. And I don't care if they earn millions, they're still human beings.

[roycrikside]

I've read this whole thread and learned nothing that I already didn't know.

1) Ducks HATES Manu, openly wishes for him to be traded for some random African-American shooting guard and is openly jealous that he's the second best player on the Spurs, not Tony.

2) TPark is a xenophobic Republican nitwit who would totally want Manu to kick ass in the Olympics if he was born in Des Moines, Iowa instead of Bahia Blanca, Argentina

3) Argentinian Manu fans don't much care about Spurs fans' problems because in their minds Americans don't appreciate Manu as much as they should in the first place (the flopper labels, calling him soft for the injury, etc.)

4) Most Spurs fans don't care about Argentina fans' problems because they're too uneducated to find Argentina on a map.

5) Manu's not a dummy. If he's healthy enough to play, he'll play, if he's not, he won't, and no matter what decision he makes, the people who liked him before will defend it and the people who disliked him before will criticize it. He could regain his health, win another gold and the MVP of the tournament and the usual suspects here will be upset with him for not resting and "jeopardizing" the Spurs chances in '09. He could sit out the whole summer and get injured in the regular season anyway and they'll rip him for being injury prone and wish he could've been traded in the off season. I mean, at this point it's pretty obvious that Manu could save Ducks from a burning building and Ducks would still rip him the next day, so why bother commenting?

[smeagol]

I've read this whole thread and learned nothing that I already didn't know.

1) Ducks HATES Manu, openly wishes for him to be traded for some random African-American shooting guard and is openly jealous that he's the second best player on the Spurs, not Tony.

2) TPark is a xenophobic Republican nitwit who would totally want Manu to kick ass in the Olympics if he was born in Des Moines, Iowa instead of Bahia Blanca, Argentina

3) Argentinian Manu fans don't much care about Spurs fans' problems because in their minds Americans don't appreciate Manu as much as they should in the first place (the flopper labels, calling him soft for the injury, etc.)

4) Most Spurs fans don't care about Argentina fans' problems because they're too uneducated to find Argentina on a map.

5) Manu's not a dummy. If he's healthy enough to play, he'll play, if he's not, he won't, and no matter what decision he makes, the people who liked him before will defend it and the people who disliked him before will criticize it. He could regain his health, win another gold and the MVP of the tournament and the usual suspects here will be upset with him for not resting and "jeopardizing" the Spurs chances in '09. He could sit out the whole summer and get injured in the regular season anyway and they'll rip him for being injury prone and wish he could've been traded in the off season. I mean, at this point it's pretty obvious that Manu could save Ducks from a burning building and Ducks would still rip him the next day, so why bother commenting?

[spurschick]

I wonder what all the pro-Manu folks would say if he gets even more hurt playing for Argentina?

Live and let live. It's just like when family members make decisions that end up being bad ones. You shake off the dust and still love and support them. There's talk that the injury may have him sitting on the bench the beginning of the season anyway. The bright side is that he looks good in suit. As we've just seen, we need Manu healthy in the post-season more than the regular season. He spent a good chunk of time on the bench his rookie season and that end pretty well.

[rj215]

Live and let live. It's just like when family members make decisions that end up being bad ones. You shake off the dust and still love and support them. There's talk that the injury may have him sitting on the bench the beginning of the season anyway. The bright side is that he looks good in suit. As we've just seen, we need Manu healthy in the post-season more than the regular season. He spent a good chunk of time on the bench his rookie season and that end pretty well.

No one wants Manu to be healthy and happy than me. I've been following him back when he had more hair on his head than on his face. Hopefully he can get us a few more rings before Timmy and Pop decide to ride off into the sunset in 2012.

[greens]

I've read this whole thread and learned nothing that I already didn't know.

1) Ducks HATES Manu, openly wishes for him to be traded for some random African-American shooting guard and is openly jealous that he's the second best player on the Spurs, not Tony.

2) TPark is a xenophobic Republican nitwit who would totally want Manu to kick ass in the Olympics if he was born in Des Moines, Iowa instead of Bahia Blanca, Argentina

3) Argentinian Manu fans don't much care about Spurs fans' problems because in their minds Americans don't appreciate Manu as much as they should in the first place (the flopper labels, calling him soft for the injury, etc.)

4) Most Spurs fans don't care about Argentina fans' problems because they're too uneducated to find Argentina on a map.

5) Manu's not a dummy. If he's healthy enough to play, he'll play, if he's not, he won't, and no matter what decision he makes, the people who liked him before will defend it and the people who disliked him before will criticize it. He could regain his health, win another gold and the MVP of the tournament and the usual suspects here will be upset with him for not resting and "jeopardizing" the Spurs chances in '09. He could sit out the whole summer and get injured in the regular season anyway and they'll rip him for being injury prone and wish he could've been traded in the off season. I mean, at this point it's pretty obvious that Manu could save Ducks from a burning building and Ducks would still rip him the next day, so why bother commenting?

That about sums it up.

I especially agree on #1. It's getting to be too predictable.