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    Who put Joe Horn in the immediate position to have a guy threaten him with a crowbar?
    The robber.

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    Had he stayed in his house, nobody would have come at him with a crowbar.
    Had he stayed in his house, worse things could've happened.

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    Oh, Horn called 911 in front of the robber?

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    Who put Joe Horn in the immediate position to have a guy threaten him with a crowbar?
    Um, that would be Joe Horn, I believe, since he could have simply remained in his home.

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    Had he stayed in his house, worse things could've happened.
    Or nothing else could have happened.

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    Had he stayed in his house, worse things could've happened.
    And had worse things happened to his home, Horn would have been completely justified in defending himself and his home with a firearm. But it's absurd, in my opinion, to think that he could interject himself into a crime scene and then find justification for shooting at the suspects.

    What you're essentially saying, TPark, is that if I observe something that I believe to be criminal behavior going on around me, I'm completely justified in pulling a gun and shooting the person who I believe is engaging in criminal conduct. As I've noted elsewhere, you're deputizing me. But note that you're also deputizing any number of people who might not act with good intentions or who might perceive criminal activity to be ongoing where there is no criminal act -- and you're shrouding them with legal justification for pulling guns and shooting those they suspect of crimes.

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    So when can I expect Best Buy's blue shirts to begin popping a cap in shoplifters' asses?

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    Is he still a hero if he had shot and killed a 14 year old white kid?
    If the kid had been robbing a home, yea.

    Why are you trying to make this a race issue?

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    Had he stayed in his house, nobody would have come at him with a crowbar.
    Had they stayed at home, they wouldn't be dead right now.

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    I'm with ya peewee.

    I'm not up for negotiating or "talking" with the criminals, like some would wnat to do.

    UNDERSTAND where the poor criminal is coming from.
    Who is that exactly?

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    Who is that exactly?
    You know, Some. The liberalhippie that permeates all of society.

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    If the kid had been robbing a home, yea.

    Why are you trying to make this a race issue?
    Because I don't think most people would feel as inclined to pull the trigger.

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    I'm not up for negotiating or "talking" with the criminals, like some would wnat to do.

    UNDERSTAND where the poor criminal is coming from.
    Who is that exactly?

    You know, Some. The liberalhippie that permeates all of society.
    I have never met anyone who holds that point of view. Many of my friends are liberals.

    I have never read any statement from anybody regarded as liberal that says we shouldn't defend ourselves, or talk to them instead of arresting them.

    Such people live only in people like TPark's mind for the purpose of what is known as "strawman" arguments, i.e. distort someones views until it seems ridiculous and treat the distortion as reality.

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    I have never met anyone who holds that point of view. Many of my friends are liberals.

    I have never read any statement from anybody regarded as liberal that says we shouldn't defend ourselves, or talk to them instead of arresting them.

    Such people live only in people like TPark's mind for the purpose of what is known as "strawman" arguments, i.e. distort someones views until it seems ridiculous and treat the distortion as reality.
    You must be talking about the "Chewbacca defense."

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    You must be talking about the "Chewbacca defense."
    "Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case?

    If Chewbacca lives on Endor, liberals want to talk to criminals!!"

    I can see it now.

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    Because I don't think most people would feel as inclined to pull the trigger.
    So, you're saying only black theifs get shot?

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    "Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case?

    If Chewbacca lives on Endor, liberals want to talk to criminals!!"

    I can see it now.
    I'm a moderate and I would kill anyone in or on my property without any hesitation.

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    So, you're saying only black theifs get shot?
    Corollary to Godwin's Law: Anybody who butchers the spelling of "thieves" that badly automatically loses the thread.

    You have now twice automatically lost this thread. Grand jurors reading this thread are now reconsidering their decision not to indict Horn.

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    Corollary to Godwin's Law: Anybody who butchers the spelling of "thieves" that badly automatically loses the thread.

    You have now twice automatically lost this thread. Grand jurors reading this thread are now reconsidering their decision not to indict Horn.


    I just got back from a buffet.

    I can't think clearly.

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    So, you're saying only black theifs get shot?
    I really don't know what I meant by it...I just THINK (I don't know) that maybe for a lot of white people (I'm not saying all), they'd be more hesitant to shoot white person than a black person. Maybe it's for the simple fact that I've been aquainted with a lot of racist white and mexican people in my life.

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    I really don't know what I meant by it...I just THINK (I don't know) that maybe for a lot of white people (I'm not saying all), they'd be more hesitant to shoot white person than a black person. Maybe it's for the simple fact that I've been aquainted with a lot of racist white and mexican people in my life.
    That's a pretty racist statement.

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    Trenton Houghton (15) was shot and killed after breaking into a house with friends
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    Date: Jun 19, 2006
    Cause of Death: Shot
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    Advertise on this site A reported burglary in East Texas, early Monday, leaves one teen dead, another injured and a third behind bars. Three teenagers are accused of breaking into the home. This happened overnight, around 3:30 AM at a house featured in Longview''s Parade of Homes. The home is on the 1100 block of Camille Drive in Longview.

    "I heard a lot of banging on the door and ringing the door bell," says Nathan Lanicek, who lives near crime scene.

    Nathan Lanicek answered his door to find 14 year old Josh Cominsky covered with blood. Josh and another friend were shot during an alleged home break in.

    "According to the homeowner, he was asleep and he heard some noise and heard some glass breaking. Prior to going into the living room the homeowner had armed himself with a firearm. He went into the living room and confronted several subjects one of which he thought was holding some type of weapon," says Sergeant Shaun Pendleton, Public Information Officer with Longview.

    That''s when the homeowner fired his shotgun... hitting 15 year old, Trenton Joseph Houghton of Hallsville. Houghton ran into the woods. He later died at Longview Regional Hospital.

    One teen, 17 year old Gregory Lynn Allison, was taken into custody, facing burglary charges.

    14 year old Josh Cominsky was also wounded. He had more than 100 pellets in his back. Cominsky ran to a house but no one answered. His blood still left on that door. He ended up at Nathan''s house.

    "He started complaining about having trouble breathing and someone had shot at him so I had him take his shirt off and check for wounds. When he turned around I saw he had been shot in the back with a shot gun. He had close to 100 pellets in his back. I was just trying to get him to calm down and keep the bleeding down until the ambulance got here. I never saw any remorse so but I never did get an admission either," says Nathan Lanicek.

    Cominsky is at Good Shepherd Medical Center where he is listed in fair condition.

    However his grandmother says the story police are giving and the one her grandson told her don''t match.

    "Why didn''t he shot up in the air. How do you shot one time, say you shot one time, and one boy is shot point black in the front and another in the back, that was going over the fence. What is the point, what is the point... He is going to have to live with that. We have two teenagers one they say is in the hospital and the other one is dead. I''m not excusing anything, I''m not excusing anything but I understand they weren''t in the house," says, Louretta Sok, Grandmother of Josh Cominsky.

    We spoke with police. They say according to the homeowner''s statement, the teens were in his living room. Longview Police say as far as charges against the homeowner. That will be up to the District Attorney''s office. Texas law does says you have the right to protect your property. But, police say if you use deadly force, you better be ready to explain why.
    Related Article(s): Home Break In Leaves One Teen Dead, One Injured And Another Behind Bars

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    "Why didn''t he shot up in the air.



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