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  1. #26
    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    Howard and Beno together? Good business for the Sac night life.

  2. #27
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    can we give them howard and stack for artest and garcia?

    Starters

    Kidd
    Wright
    Artest
    Nowitzki
    Damp

    Bench

    Terry
    Garcia
    Green
    Bass
    Diop

    Not a bad squad at all.
    If you want Artest, you have to take Kenny Thomas off their hands too. Package deal.

  3. #28
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    How is Artest that much of an upgrade over Josh Howard? Pretty lateral move if you ask me.
    Their games are similar, but Artest is basically a Rolls Royce, while Josh is a Honda Accord. The X Factor is that Ron-Ron is ing nuts, but Josh has maturity issues, so they cancel each other out.

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    I agree with the point about Artest's tendency to be an offense-killer. People talk appropriately about him being nuts, but the biggest on-court problem with him is that he thinks he's an elite scorer and will destroy a team rhythm just to prove it.

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    He's a blackhole so I would expect him to find some way of scoring more than 12 points while taking 20 shots. We got a new coach so I expect an inspired Josh Howard this year if we don't screw it up for this headcase.
    ..new coach which happens to be Carlisle, Artest's former coach and maybe one of the few who can control him, when he played for Indiana and having his best season in the league-defensively(2003-04 DPOY), while averaging 18.3ppg. Last yr, he missed the playoffs (again), but he averaged 20ppg vs LAL. He can be of help to any team in the WC.

    Screw your team? Your team is screwed already since the 2007 playoffs and then you let Diop and Kidd swapped locations. He's worth a peek, (but I hope he won't come to Dallas).

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    Seems about right. Get Artest and I can't wait for him to go postal and go into the stands and punch out a Mav's fan. Poetic justice! lol

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    He's a blackhole so I would expect him to find some way of scoring more than 12 points while taking 20 shots. We got a new coach so I expect an inspired Josh Howard this year if we don't screw it up for this headcase.

    Sorry mavsfan, but I prefer someone who shows up in the 3rd & 4th Qtr of games.

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    Like I said before, getting Artest is a move the Mavs don't need to make.

    They need to dump Dampier and find a real center with post scoring abilities. Pair him with Dirk and you have a deadly inside-outside combo with your PF/C.

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    Like I said before, getting Artest is a move the Mavs don't need to make.

    They need to dump Dampier and find a real center with post scoring abilities. Pair him with Dirk and you have a deadly inside-outside combo with your PF/C.

    where do we get one of those?

  10. #35
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    keep bass, he seems like a worker. trade howards ass.

  11. #36
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    Howard will come good.

  12. #37
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    They need to dump Dampier and find a real center with post scoring abilities. Pair him with Dirk and you have a deadly inside-outside combo with your PF/C.
    Easier said than done.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    the biggest on-court problem with him is that he thinks he's an elite scorer and will destroy a team rhythm just to prove it.
    That wound up being Josh Howard's biggest problem at the end of the season too.

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    Josh and stack for Artest,i dont wanna lose Bass.

    He and wright is our future

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    I hope the Mavs FO has been watching the FIBA pre-Olympic tournament. Dirk and Kamman are getting along like they have been playing for a decade together. Honestly, those two, Kidd, and a bunch of decent swingman and the Mavs have a team that can win the le next year.

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    I hope the Mavs FO has been watching the FIBA pre-Olympic tournament. Dirk and Kamman are getting along like they have been playing for a decade together. Honestly, those two, Kidd, and a bunch of decent swingman and the Mavs have a team that can win the le next year.
    hmm... and didnt the clippers just trade for a high caliber center in Marcus Camby? i have a hard time believing they are expecting one of them to come off the bench...

  17. #42
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    how about j-how and stack for artest and garcia?
    Somehow, I don't think any Kings Fans would be much happy with this proposal...

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    I hope the Mavs FO has been watching the FIBA pre-Olympic tournament. Dirk and Kamman are getting along like they have been playing for a decade together. Honestly, those two, Kidd, and a bunch of decent swingman and the Mavs have a team that can win the le next year.
    Yeah, Dirk scored like 35 in 31 min.

    Isn't today an elimination game for them?

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    Somehow, I don't think any Kings Fans would be much happy with this proposal...
    true. but fact is, when you are the team trying to get rid of a player (in this case, the kings getting rid of Artest), you will almost never get equal or greater value in return.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    hmm... and didnt the clippers just trade for a high caliber center in Marcus Camby? i have a hard time believing they are expecting one of them to come off the bench...
    it would be nice but it won't happen. we've got how much freakin money invested in our two POS centers? no way they get another, unless the clippers want to take Dampier off our hands. But I don't see that happening.

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    Yeah, Dirk scored like 35 in 31 min.

    Isn't today an elimination game for them?
    Yes, it's elemination game from this point on for them. But they have to win this one to get into the last four. Than they can still lose a game, but win the tiebreak game. only three teams will go into the olympics. From what i have seen only Greece is much better (not a surprise at all, since they are all healthy). I think Germany is the second best team, so if no slip ups happen they should qualify.

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    it would be nice but it won't happen. we've got how much freakin money invested in our two POS centers? no way they get another, unless the clippers want to take Dampier off our hands. But I don't see that happening.
    I am not as anti Damp as mono is, i still think he is key to our defense, but a Kamman for Damp trade would make me extatic!!!!

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    I kinda hope Germany doesn't qualify, if only to give Dirk more rest.

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    I kinda hope Germany doesn't qualify, if only to give Dirk more rest.
    Well it's his last summer playing for them, he's made that public. And given how much he cares, I would love for Dirk to win some kind of medal. With Kamman on the team he has that legit second scorer he has always needed.

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    it would be nice but it won't happen. we've got how much freakin money invested in our two POS centers? no way they get another, unless the clippers want to take Dampier off our hands. But I don't see that happening.
    i wouldnt mind trading diop and someone for kaman.

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