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I know this is a hypothetical situation.
But, it's funny to me how someone would want to trade one of the big three win this team has a chance to win another championship.
Especially, someone as clutch and compe ive as Manu. Outside of Kobe Bryant...Manu is one of the most compe ive people in the league.
He's untouchable....far as I'm concerned.
You don't touch the core of something (whether it's Basketball, Football, or Business) that is successful until the window has closed. You can get always get role players or secondary people...but if you have a core that works you keep it as long as possible!!!
Yes, Manu has been injured but trying to get rid of him....is premature!
I've always thought the Bulls plugged the plug on the Jordan/Pippen era too soon. They had a chance to win another championship and the organization decided to go in a different direction.
So...no trade for Manu!!!
if i were a spurs fan, i definitely wouldnt trade him unless we are blowing the team up. but again, i am not really a spurs fan, so
ginobili to the suns!
I'm a huge fan of Manu, but I would gamble his time is done and get the most that I could.I know this is a hypothetical situation.
But, it's funny to me how someone would want to trade one of the big three win this team has a chance to win another championship.
Especially, someone as clutch and compe ive as Manu. Outside of Kobe Bryant...Manu is one of the most compe ive people in the league.
He's untouchable....far as I'm concerned.
You don't touch the core of something (whether it's Basketball, Football, or Business) that is successful until the window has closed. You can get always get role players or secondary people...but if you have a core that works you keep it as long as possible!!!
Yes, Manu has been injured but trying to get rid of him....is premature!
I've always thought the Bulls plugged the plug on the Jordan/Pippen era too soon. They had a chance to win another championship and the organization decided to go in a different direction.
So...no trade for Manu!!!
Jamal Crawford may be the most selfish player I have ever seen (in person last January in SA). He is lockeroom poison and loser through and through. This proposed trade would sink the Spurs into second tier status.
If the most you can get is Jamal Crawford and David Lee, that isn't a whole lot you're getting in return.
You can say Ginobili's health is iffy and that the Spurs can't win a le with him anymore, but I can guarantee you that the Spurs wouldn't have been in last season's conference finals without him -- injuries and all. I would disagree that you just jettison a player who can make that much of a difference for whatever you can get on the market. If you trade him, you'd better find a difference maker; there aren't many guys in the NBA who truly fit that category -- at least not in the same way that Manu Ginobili does.
In today's dollars, Manu's a bargain for what he still brings to the table.
You might want to come up with better players than Crawford/Lee if you're gonna trade Manu.
If you're trading Manu, you'd better get an expiring contract, a future All-Star calibur player in his early 20's and a Lottery pick.
I'm guessing that it's not just a coincidence that Crawford's teams have uniformly stunk during his NBA career. Dude shoots 40% from the field for his career with a points-per-shot hovering around 1.1. He's a chucker, through and through. A guy like that would never get enough shots on a team like the Spurs to average in the mid-teens, and he'd never play enough defense to make up for his atrocious offense.
Ginobili is a 46+% shooter from the floor for over the last 4 seasons while having a PPS that is above 1.4. He averages in the mid-teens with limited shots and then adds substantial value on the defensive end as well.
Short of some of getting an elite 2 guard -- which won't happen because of Manu's favorable contract -- I don't think the Spurs could ever get reasonable value for Ginobili in a trade.
I'd think the bidding would start in the neighborhood of Kevin Martin.
That's more like it. If you trade a quality player, you should get quality back. SAC would't do this due to the age difference, but Martin is really, really good.
You really are worth 2 cents...
Of course they wouldn't, but that's kind of the point.
It's absurd, in my mind, to think that the Spurs could ever get anything approaching true value for Manu. And given that Manu is quite clearly a difference-making player who is truly among the best 25-30 players in the association at the moment, I don't think you jettison that guy just because you're fearful that he might get hurt. The upside of a healthy Manu is substantially greater than the upside of the spare parts that you might get in return by trading Manu on the hypothesis that he might get hurt.
The best option is to keep Manu.
Manu's age and durability issues would very unlikely net the Spurs something of that value, especially for lottery teams. Teams that might be a piece away from having a legitimate shot at winning a le might be willing to trade more, but from a business standpoint, Manu isn't worth nearly as much as his production to a lottery team because Manu doesn't project having longterm value for a team that is trying to rebuild.
As such, the Spurs would be hard pressed to find equal value for Manu, and so it would be hard for the Spurs to make such a move and not get equal value.
not if winning another championship is the goal. Manu is done.
They said the same thing last offseason.
thanks Nostradamus
Except, of course, when he plays well enough to finish 10th in the MVP voting and be voted 3rd Team All-NBA while being a substantial reason that his team reached the Conference Finals and being largely responsible for their lone win in that round.
It's really too bad that none of those things have happened in the last 6 months.
I'll bet anyone $100 that manu gets hurt in next years playoffs.
It's funny that you think the Spurs should bet millions of dollars on that proposition when you're only willing to risk $100.
I'm not rich like you. Maybe I'll go slip and fall so I can have more.
j/k
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