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    Dude,

    Up until last year Rafer was a borderline starter in the NBA. And wow, one season of T-Mac not having back issues is supposed to prove to me that he no longer has back issues? Get outta here. And while you're on the subject of a 45 yr old MJ guarding Rafer, why don't Rafer try to guard MJ? Cause he'll get his little ass posted up on so much, it would be like shooting over a chair. Please make it out of the first round before putting your guys on Jordan's level.
    I am not putting any of our guys against jordan, my comments were light hearted and you're being a little taking everything so seriously.

    BTW, the rox are going to own your boys and everyone else if health permits.

    Tmac has not had back issues while under the care of the Waco-Witch doc for at least 2 full seasons now and counting so stfu.

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    Some of you are dense as .

    I don't like Michael Jordan. That's not why I'm laughing at the video.

    If it was Dr. J doing that, I'd laugh at him. If it were Dominique doing it, I'd laugh at him. If it were Oscar Robertson, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, Clyde Drexler, Bernard King, Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond, or any other former NBA star, I'd laugh at them playing one-on-one with kids at a camp.

    If it's 10 years from now, and it's Kobe Bryant doing that, I'm laughing at him. 10 years from now, if it's Tim Duncan, I'm calling it lame.

    It's lame. Not because it's Michael Jordan. Because it's a former NBA player trying to show up a bunch of kids with no NBA talent, and then upon urging, dunking on kids (notice the two kids he dunked on were not the big, tall kids). And, then after one drive, smirking and talking to the crowd, "You didn't know I could do that still."

    What????? It's not about hating Michael Jordan. I hate Michael Jordan, but I give him his props as the best player to ever play in the history of the NBA. I'm laughing at his lame ass beating up kids one-on-one like he needs to prove anything to anyone.
    I guess you don't see the whole point of the basketball camp and you need to stop overanalyzing the video. If you think it was a mere attempt for Jordan to stroke his ego you are wrong beyond a reasonable doubt. It was nothing more than an exhibtion show to give the kids their money's worth. Put down the modem for taking a Michael Jordan camp so seriously.

    And yes, you're hating pretty bad.

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    You keep your opinion, and I'll keep mine.

    Money's worth would have him give 10 minute one-on-one lessons on shooting form, technique, and positioning to a select few of the camp kids. Money's worth would have been Michael inviting another former NBA player or maybe one of his Charlotte Bobcat players and play one-on-one with him, where it would be at least semi-compe ive. , make it two-on-two with two camp kids so at least two camp kids get to play and each has an NBA caliber player to play with.

    That in the video was lame and laughable.

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    Definately the game of basketball is better then it was.

    And the defense was not that great in 90s. The pace of the game in late 90s was slow.

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    You keep your opinion, and I'll keep mine.

    Money's worth would have him give 10 minute one-on-one lessons on shooting form, technique, and positioning to a select few of the camp kids. Money's worth would have been Michael inviting another former NBA player or maybe one of his Charlotte Bobcat players and play one-on-one with him, where it would be at least semi-compe ive. , make it two-on-two with two camp kids so at least two camp kids get to play and each has an NBA caliber player to play with.

    That in the video was lame and laughable.
    Every post you are saying the same thing

    I think everybody got your point

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    I keep repeating because they are not getting it.

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    I don't like Michael Jordan. That's not why I'm laughing at the video.
    you are such a lying little ing weasel

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    I am not putting any of our guys against jordan, my comments were light hearted and you're being a little taking everything so seriously.

    BTW, the rox are going to own your boys and everyone else if health permits.

    Tmac has not had back issues while under the care of the Waco-Witch doc for at least 2 full seasons now and counting so stfu.

    You're sounding like a Redskin fan before every football season the last 10 years.

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    Jordan: "Lets just say, he would have a much tougher time stopping me than I would have stopping him"... and this was Jordan in his prime.

    If you notice, those were the same fakes that JAMSTONE is saying Jordan used on those little kids. Not mention... a 19 year old Kobe dropped 33 on Jordan and his bulls... when Jordan was in his prime. Saying that Kobe would be no contest is absurd. Kobe could get any shot he wanted against Jordan when he was only 19. But as far as the comparisons to who is better...


    The funny thing about this vid is Phil never explained why he thought Kobe had better skills than Jordan. He actually made a good case for Jordan being the better player. I agree with his overall comparison though. Also, Pippen thought Kobe was better.

    In my opinion, both players have the same style and flare for the game. Both are fierce compe ors, and both are clutch. But Kobe really dont do anything BETTER than Jordan. Kobe may be just a tad bit of a better outside shooter than MJ. This next vid makes a case for Kobe.


    The video above clearly shows that teams focus soley on Kobe. Of course this was different when he had Shaq, Horry, Fox, Harper, Rice, Shaw and all those guys, but Jordan was surrounded with really good talent throughout the entire 1990's... he had great shooters, great defensive players and rebounders. Jordan was able to roam and go one on one for the majority of his career. However, Kobe turns 30 this month and I think the we have yet to see his best. Most great athletes play their best ball between 30-34. Kobe is fortunate enough that the Lakers have surrounded him with players that can help him win at a high level. The rest is up to Kobe. I dont see Kobe surpassing Jordans achievments, but I do see Kobe doing well enough to keep people debating who was the best between them for decades to come. The best thing is someone will eventually come along and eclipse both of them... and it wont be Lebron

    Well this post is an automatic "Fail." First off the first video is from the 2003 all star game when Jordan was 40 and second, the game you're referring to when Kobe scored 33 pts at age 19 is the game where the Bulls dominated and won by 21 pts in December of 97 and Kobe scored 16 of those 33 in the 4th quarter when the game was already decided and Jordan was sitting at the end of the bench laughing at guys like Randy Brown and Scott Burrell and Jud Buechler playing.

    I don't think Phil wanted to give his true opinion on who was better because he's currently employed by the Lakers and didn't want to anger his best player. Also I have never heard Pippen say Kobe was better. If you can find a direct quote on where he has, then it's more lies by Laker/Kobe fans.

    I thought the Kobe vs. MJ comparisons died this past summer when Kobe allowed his team to blow a 24 pt lead at home in an NBA Finals game. Shoot, I thought the comparisons should've ended in 2004 when Kobe Bryant shot 38% vs. Tayshaun Prince's stifling defense and only averaged 22 ppg, and this was with Shaq in the middle along with 2 other hall of famers on his squad. These comparisons should've died, but for some reason Laker/Kobe fans just won't let it.

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    I keep repeating because they are not getting it.
    We got your point just fine, we all just think it's stupid.

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    Well this post is an automatic "Fail." First off the first video is from the 2003 all star game when Jordan was 40 and second, the game you're referring to when Kobe scored 33 pts at age 19 is the game where the Bulls dominated and won by 21 pts in December of 97 and Kobe scored 16 of those 33 in the 4th quarter when the game was already decided and Jordan was sitting at the end of the bench laughing at guys like Randy Brown and Scott Burrell and Jud Buechler playing.

    I don't think Phil wanted to give his true opinion on who was better because he's currently employed by the Lakers and didn't want to anger his best player. Also I have never heard Pippen say Kobe was better. If you can find a direct quote on where he has, then it's more lies by Laker/Kobe fans.

    I thought the Kobe vs. MJ comparisons died this past summer when Kobe allowed his team to blow a 24 pt lead at home in an NBA Finals game. Shoot, I thought the comparisons should've ended in 2004 when Kobe Bryant shot 38% vs. Tayshaun Prince's stifling defense and only averaged 22 ppg, and this was with Shaq in the middle along with 2 other hall of famers on his squad. These comparisons should've died, but for some reason Laker/Kobe fans just won't let it.

    Win.

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    Well this post is an automatic "Fail." First off the first video is from the 2003 all star game when Jordan was 40 and second, the game you're referring to when Kobe scored 33 pts at age 19 is the game where the Bulls dominated and won by 21 pts in December of 97 and Kobe scored 16 of those 33 in the 4th quarter when the game was already decided and Jordan was sitting at the end of the bench laughing at guys like Randy Brown and Scott Burrell and Jud Buechler playing.

    I don't think Phil wanted to give his true opinion on who was better because he's currently employed by the Lakers and didn't want to anger his best player. Also I have never heard Pippen say Kobe was better. If you can find a direct quote on where he has, then it's more lies by Laker/Kobe fans.

    I thought the Kobe vs. MJ comparisons died this past summer when Kobe allowed his team to blow a 24 pt lead at home in an NBA Finals game. Shoot, I thought the comparisons should've ended in 2004 when Kobe Bryant shot 38% vs. Tayshaun Prince's stifling defense and only averaged 22 ppg, and this was with Shaq in the middle along with 2 other hall of famers on his squad. These comparisons should've died, but for some reason Laker/Kobe fans just won't let it.
    your my boy blue

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    Well this post is an automatic "Fail." First off the first video is from the 2003 all star game when Jordan was 40 and second, the game you're referring to when Kobe scored 33 pts at age 19 is the game where the Bulls dominated and won by 21 pts in December of 97 and Kobe scored 16 of those 33 in the 4th quarter when the game was already decided and Jordan was sitting at the end of the bench laughing at guys like Randy Brown and Scott Burrell and Jud Buechler playing.

    I don't think Phil wanted to give his true opinion on who was better because he's currently employed by the Lakers and didn't want to anger his best player. Also I have never heard Pippen say Kobe was better. If you can find a direct quote on where he has, then it's more lies by Laker/Kobe fans.

    I thought the Kobe vs. MJ comparisons died this past summer when Kobe allowed his team to blow a 24 pt lead at home in an NBA Finals game. Shoot, I thought the comparisons should've ended in 2004 when Kobe Bryant shot 38% vs. Tayshaun Prince's stifling defense and only averaged 22 ppg, and this was with Shaq in the middle along with 2 other hall of famers on his squad. These comparisons should've died, but for some reason Laker/Kobe fans just won't let it.
    complete ownage at its finest


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    jamstone comes across as being incredibly butthurt. why? i'm not sure.

    then again, unless 100% of the other posters agree with him on any subject whatsoever, he always comes across as a whiny butthurt bag.

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    What's the point in MJ playing them one-on-one at all? What do they learn be getting shot over and dunked on? What lesson is learned?

    If Brian Urlacher holds a linebacker camp for high school kids. Should he be spearing each of the kids?
    I agree with some of what you are saying in the sense that we all know how compe ive Jordan is and he did at times seem like he was getting off on hitting those jumpers and dunking on those kids. That is pretty sad indeed, if that was somehow a big deal to him, too show the kids up. That is like Nolan Ryan being thrilled with himself because he can still throw his fastball by a bunch of Little Leaguers.

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    Dude, stop sucking Jordans !!! Nothing about my post shows that I am bias towards Kobe. Bottom line is there is nothing about Jordans game that makes me think he could even brake Kobes stride. Do I have to dig out the old Joe Dumars, Mitch Richmond, and AI battles against Jordan??? There are plenty of highlights that showed Jordan get owned by those guys and Kobe also. Sure, any player can be slowed down if they are going up against a good defensive TEAM... ask Jordan himself about those tough nights that the bad boys put on his ass. I remember plenty of nights where Jordan wasnt so royal in those days. And Prince!!! Tayshawn Prince!!! Give me a break man. There are more lockdown defenders in the league today then there was back in the day, and Ive seen Kobe torch them all... Artest, Prince, Posey, Battier, Bowen, Bell, It dont matter, he owns them all.

    The game where Kobe was 19 years old showed that Kobe was willing to go toe to toe with Jordan. More than half of his points came from him scoring on Jordan or Pippen. Enough of the Kobe talk because Im no fan of his or Jordans. The point Im trying to make is Jordan is insane if he thinks that it would be "no contest" playing one on one against Kobe. And the quote by Pippen was when he was live on ESPN or TNT during the halftime game of the Lakers, and John Sally asked Pippen who was better. Pippen said I think Kobe was better during that phase of their careers. I think Kobe was like 25, and Pippen was just giving his opinion... not saying that it means much, but it was just his opinion.

    And as for the comparison dying... it seems like everyone, including Jordan wants to compare Kobe to Jordan except Kobe. I know this much... if he was a Spur or a Celtic, he would replace Jesus as the Supposed to be son of God.
    I know one thing, Jordan never shot 38% in a series vs the Bad Boy Pistons defense which was 3 times tougher to score on that the 2004 Piston team Kobe was "contained" by. Did you say Mitch Richmond? LMFAO! Mitch Richmond was like so much of a dropoff from Jordan it's not even funny, that's like comparing Michael Redd with Kobe, not even on the same level. Bottomline is Kobe stat-padded his numbers against a bunch of scrubs like Randy Brown and Jud Buechler in garbage minutes.

    I also think you're probably thinking of Mark Jackson who said Kobe was better than Jordan, and Pippen busted out laughing and wanted to kill him!

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    Dude, stop sucking Jordans !!! Nothing about my post shows that I am bias towards Kobe. Bottom line is there is nothing about Jordans game that makes me think he could even brake Kobes stride. Do I have to dig out the old Joe Dumars, Mitch Richmond, and AI battles against Jordan??? There are plenty of highlights that showed Jordan get owned by those guys and Kobe also. Sure, any player can be slowed down if they are going up against a good defensive TEAM... ask Jordan himself about those tough nights that the bad boys put on his ass. I remember plenty of nights where Jordan wasnt so royal in those days. And Prince!!! Tayshawn Prince!!! Give me a break man. There are more lockdown defenders in the league today then there was back in the day, and Ive seen Kobe torch them all... Artest, Prince, Posey, Battier, Bowen, Bell, It dont matter, he owns them all.

    The game where Kobe was 19 years old showed that Kobe was willing to go toe to toe with Jordan. More than half of his points came from him scoring on Jordan or Pippen. Enough of the Kobe talk because Im no fan of his or Jordans. The point Im trying to make is Jordan is insane if he thinks that it would be "no contest" playing one on one against Kobe. And the quote by Pippen was when he was live on ESPN or TNT during the halftime game of the Lakers, and John Sally asked Pippen who was better. Pippen said I think Kobe was better during that phase of their careers. I think Kobe was like 25, and Pippen was just giving his opinion... not saying that it means much, but it was just his opinion.

    And as for the comparison dying... it seems like everyone, including Jordan wants to compare Kobe to Jordan except Kobe. I know this much... if he was a Spur or a Celtic, he would replace Jesus as the Supposed to be son of God.
    o Stan.


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    Im sure there are some people on this board that heard Pippen say he thought Kobe was better than Jordan. I have no reason to make it up. And I wasnt comparing Mitch to Jordan, I was just saying that those players I mentioned busted Jordans ass plenty of nights... especially Mitch!!! Jordans comparison is absurd!!! I think Kobe is the best in the league today, but I could reel off a few players that could probably take him one on one... AI, TMAC. Jordan came off as if no one could ever beat him one on one in his prime... I disagree. Besides, even if Kobe could beat Jordan one on one, it doesnt means that he is better than him as a player. I remember Gary Payton coming out of college and they had a one on one contest of the top college players, and Bo Kimble won. I remember being impressed with Payton, but the guy who won never turned out to be anything in the pros. Jordan sounds about as bad as Shaq did in his club rap song. Dude, you had your day... now just go away quietly...
    Well Jordan's right, no one could beat him in his prime. I agree with him whole heartedly. There was so much of a dropoff between Jordan and the 2nd best player in the league. While I do agree that Kobe is the best in the NBA today, there's not much of a dropoff from say Kobe and LeBron from being #1 and #2 best players in the game today.

    And if someone has heard Pippen say Kobe was better, and they post it, well I'll take your word for it, until then, it's all lies, and of course like I said I've heard Mark Jackson say it, and we all know those former Knicks over at ESPN like Mark Jackson and Greg Anthony hold a personal vendetta over Jordan for denying them a ring, so they try hard to diminish Jordan's accomplishments.

    As for Jordan going away, you probably want him to go away so your boy Kobe can be looked at as the poster boy of the NBA for years and years after he's gone like Jordan, but.....not gonna happen. 20 years from now, Jordan will probably still be talked about as the GOAT.

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    Pippen also said LeBron would be better than Jordan.

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    MJ is going to be forever known as the best player of all time. I can't ever imagine anybody doing what he did for as long as he did it, in such dominant fashion. If Jordan's Bulls, any version of them, played Kobe's current Lakers in the finals, they'd probably sweep them and Kobe would be horribly outplayed by Jordan. Jordan would be so fired up to whip his ass, Kobe would be looking for a hole to crawl into by the time it was over.

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    Well this post is an automatic "Fail." First off the first video is from the 2003 all star game when Jordan was 40 and second, the game you're referring to when Kobe scored 33 pts at age 19 is the game where the Bulls dominated and won by 21 pts in December of 97 and Kobe scored 16 of those 33 in the 4th quarter when the game was already decided and Jordan was sitting at the end of the bench laughing at guys like Randy Brown and Scott Burrell and Jud Buechler playing.

    I don't think Phil wanted to give his true opinion on who was better because he's currently employed by the Lakers and didn't want to anger his best player. Also I have never heard Pippen say Kobe was better. If you can find a direct quote on where he has, then it's more lies by Laker/Kobe fans.

    I thought the Kobe vs. MJ comparisons died this past summer when Kobe allowed his team to blow a 24 pt lead at home in an NBA Finals game. Shoot, I thought the comparisons should've ended in 2004 when Kobe Bryant shot 38% vs. Tayshaun Prince's stifling defense and only averaged 22 ppg, and this was with Shaq in the middle along with 2 other hall of famers on his squad. These comparisons should've died, but for some reason Laker/Kobe fans just won't let it.

    That is big time stuff right there,

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    Get Jordans nuts off your chin son. This is Kobe hating at its best. I noticed you said this years current Laker squad, but Kobe's three-peat squad would destroy the bulls. Of course Jordan will be recognized as the greatest until someone tops what he did skills wise. Kobe has yet to do that, and he may never. But even the greatest will lose one on one matches... ask ALI, the man who coined the phrase "
    Im the greatest." According to Jordans pathetic quote, he would never lose a match one on on because he thought he was the best player ever while in his prime. Well, so was his team, but yet they lost plenty of games on any given night, and so would Jordan when playing against other superstars. If any of you nerds have ever played the sport you would realize this.

    Jamstone is right on point with Jordans arrogance and hunger for the spotlight, however, I dont think he was trying to go hard or embarass the kids. He did the same thing when judging the dunk contest one year. He was giving 7's and 8's for dunks that were worthy of 10.

    Now im going to play devils advocate since you girls hate Kobe so much. THOSE KIDS WERE TIRED OF JORDAN TRYING TO SHOW OFF BY SINKING JUMPERS AND DUNKING ON THEM, SO ONE OF THEM SPOKE UP AND SAID "CAN YOU DO THIS ON KOBE?" "CAN YOU BEAT KOBE?" Jordan was unsulted by the question, so he made an excuse by saying that he was 45 years old, but immediately inflated his ego once again by saying, "IF I was in my prime, there would be no contest." His statement is far from the truth, because no one knows who would win that match. If Jordan caught Kobe on one of those 81 point nights... GUESS WHAT? Jordans ass is toast!!! Like I said before, Jordan sounded about as stupid as Shaq did, but Kobe haters jump at every chance to discredit him.
    You seem to be under some sort of delusion that Kobe and Jordan are close or comparable, and Kobe hasn't quite passed him YET. Wake up, it's not even close and never will be. Anyone who's played compe ive basketball knows how hard it is to dominate both ends of the court. It's damn near impossible to be a defennsive stopper on one end and a top notch scorer at the other, it takes an insane amount of endurance and energy. Kobe is a capable defender but can't dominate BOTH ends at the same time, and isn't half the winner Jordan was. Jordan would have never gotten outplayed by Paul Pierce, and you know it so stop trying to sugar coat it.

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    Get Jordans nuts off your chin son. This is Kobe hating at its best. I noticed you said this years current Laker squad, but Kobe's three-peat squad would destroy the bulls.
    LOL, so the Blazers can take those squads to 7 games as can the Kings and the Lakers barely escape but Jordan's Bulls would get eaten up by those Laker teams, in your ing dreams. Jordan's 96 Bulls would hand those Laker teams their ass on a platter.

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    Jordan would have never gotten outplayed by Paul Pierce, and you know it so stop trying to sugar coat it.
    You got that straight, in Jordan's prime he badly outplayed the likes of Clyde Drexler and Charles Barkley in NBA finals appearances, Paul Pierce would have gotten his ass handed to him by Jordan.

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    You seem to be under some sort of delusion that Kobe and Jordan are close or comparable, and Kobe hasn't quite passed him YET. Wake up, it's not even close and never will be.
    Your are correct it is not close and that is not going to change. Jordan was the man on 6 le winning teams. dominated the out of the NBA almost every year of his career, Kobe is not Jordan and he never will be.

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