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    Hornets Passing on Pargo

    An internet report this morning suggested that the New Orleans Hornets are going to pass on free agent guard Jannero Pargo, and agent Mark Bartelstein confirmed this for HOOPSWORLD today.

    "We don't understand it," said Bartelstein. "Up until about a week ago we were confident that we would get something done with the Hornets, but something happened internally and their stance has changed. It would have been nice to know that earlier so we could have gotten something done earlier in free agency, but there's a lot of interest in Pargo and we'll get something wrapped up soon."

    Bartelstein intimated that Pargo was really looking forward to returning to New Orleans and loved playing with the guys there, but the Spurs have made it clear that he'd be a rotation guy backing up both the point and two-guard spots, so it appears they may win out in the bids for his services. There's certainly no question that Pargo will be a huge asset to his new team, whether it's San Antonio or one of the other potential suitors. Pargo really came into his own in Byron Scott's run-and-gun offense and was a huge factor in the Hornets' impressive postseason run. If the Spurs were able to add him they would finally have made a move that helps them get better for the first time this offseason.

    As for the Hornets, the word is that they'll look to Mike James to handle the back-up PG duties, but given the fact that James is not really a point guard, that's a scary prospect in a Western Conference that's filled with incredible point guards. We'll be catching up with Hornets GM Jeff Bower soon to get the rundown on his plan for the roster when he gets back from vacation.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9704




    I know it's Hoopsworld, but it has quotes, so it's gotta give it some credibility.

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    Spurs Talking To Jannero Pargo

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    It appears the San Antonio Spurs may be going away from re-signing guard Michael Finley. The New Orleans Hornets guard Jannero Pargo could be the choice now.

    Pargo's agent, Mark Bartlestein told News 4 Monday night, he is having on-going discussions with the Spurs about Pargo. Bartlestein says his client has the utmost respect for the Spurs and it would be a great place to play. But, Bartlestein says its too early to say Pargo has made a decision.

    Pargo is a 6-1 guard who averaged 10 points a game last year.

    http://www.woai.com/sports/story.asp...8-312165bf9578

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    Spurs Talking To Jannero Pargo

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    It appears the San Antonio Spurs may be going away from re-signing guard Michael Finley. The New Orleans Hornets guard Jannero Pargo could be the choice now.

    Pargo's agent, Mark Bartlestein told News 4 Monday night, he is having on-going discussions with the Spurs about Pargo. Bartlestein says his client has the utmost respect for the Spurs and it would be a great place to play. But, Bartlestein says its too early to say Pargo has made a decision.

    Pargo is a 6-1 guard who averaged 10 points a game last year.

    http://www.woai.com/sports/story.asp...8-312165bf9578
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    Spurs Talking To Jannero Pargo

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    It appears the San Antonio Spurs may be going away from re-signing guard Michael Finley. The New Orleans Hornets guard Jannero Pargo could be the choice now.

    Pargo's agent, Mark Bartlestein told News 4 Monday night, he is having on-going discussions with the Spurs about Pargo. Bartlestein says his client has the utmost respect for the Spurs and it would be a great place to play. But, Bartlestein says its too early to say Pargo has made a decision.

    Pargo is a 6-1 guard who averaged 10 points a game last year.

    http://www.woai.com/sports/story.asp...8-312165bf9578
    I don't understand that signing Pargo all but eliminates Finley re-signing, when they play different positions.

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    did it ever occur to some of you that maybe SPURSTALK could possibly be jinxing the spurs from landing big time FA's??


    (not speaking of Pargo)

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    I haven't read this entire thread, but many of us have noted how small Pargo will make the Spurs. I'm starting to wonder if the "smallness" of the Spurs is not by design. Over the past two seasons, Pop has played an inordinate amount of small ball set but with pretty good results. Udoka at the 4 was affective for spells; Pop liked to throw to points on the floor at various points last season, even when one of them (Vaughn or Stoudamire) had a snow ball's chance in of scoring. I'm probably wrong, but perhaps Pop wants to push the pace a little and run some quirky small ball line ups with Parker at the 2. Going with, say, Pargo, Parker, Ginobli/Mason, Udoka/Gist/Tolliver and Timmy for a few minutes here and there might appeal to Popovich.

    Personally, I think it's not so smart. But how many championships teams have I coached?

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    I don't understand that signing Pargo all but eliminates Finley re-signing, when they play different positions.
    Well, they've only got so many roster spots...

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    I dont see the link between signing Pargo and not signing Finley.

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    Pargo hates Billy Ocean albums.

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    Well, they've only got so many roster spots...
    I understand that part. I just assume the Spurs, if they sign Pargo, would have to make a trade to get rid of the logjam at point, which includes Jacque Vaughn getting shipped out along with someone like Bonner, Oberto, or Udoka.

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    I don't understand that signing Pargo all but eliminates Finley re-signing, when they play different positions.
    Agree, Pargo is a PG, Finley play the wing.

    But if we sign Pargo we'll have only one open spot. And we still have to sign Gist.

    Oberto/KT/Ian
    TD/Bonner/Tolliver
    Bruce/Ime
    Manu/Mason/
    TP/Pargo/JV/Hill

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    Agree, Pargo is a PG, Finley play the wing.

    But if we sign Pargo we'll have only one open spot. And we still have to sign Gist.

    Oberto/KT/Ian
    TD/Bonner/Tolliver
    Bruce/Ime
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    TP/Pargo/JV/Hill
    I just think a trade is coming opening up another roster spot or two.

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    Or a buy out. Buy out Vaughn, resign Fin. Sign Gist. Move Bonner later.

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    I can't see the Spurs having 4 pg's next year. I think a trade could be in the works. Bonner, Tolliver and Mahinmi all will be fighting for Horry's minutes. Also, if the Spurs sign Pargo they will have too many undersized combo guards (Pargo, Mason, Hill) and not enough long SF's.

    maybe the Spurs FO has a play we are not aware of. I could see Bonner, Udoka and/or Vaughn being traded.

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    Bartelstein intimated that Pargo was really looking forward to returning to New Orleans and loved playing with the guys there, but the Spurs have made it clear that he'd be a rotation guy backing up both the point and two-guard spots, so it appears they may win out in the bids for his services.
    I know it is HoopsWorld so it's probably BS but hopefully the Spurs aren't planning to play Pargo too much at shooting guard. Mason is already small enough. Going with a guy who is 6-foot-1 at shooting guard would be pretty ridiculous. It'd be okay if the matchups were perfect but Pargo as the backup point guard is where his value will lie.

    Hopefully the next domino falls so we can see where the Spurs are going with this. It's like the Spurs decided to take a detour after watching their summer league team in action.

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    I know it is HoopsWorld so it's probably BS but hopefully the Spurs aren't planning to play Pargo too much at shooting guard. Mason is already small enough. Going with a guy who is 6-foot-1 at shooting guard would be pretty ridiculous. It'd be okay if the matchups were perfect but Pargo as the backup point guard is where his value will lie.

    Hopefully the next domino falls so we can see where the Spurs are going with this. It's like the Spurs decided to take a detour after watching their summer league team in action.
    This offseason is curious thus far. I'm enjoying it the way some one would a long chess match--it's not immediately gratifying but promises an unexpected and potentially dramatic conclusion.

    No question, though, the Spurs front office insists on getting it done their way.

    At 27 they could have drafted Chalmers, CDR or Arthur, but they chose Hill.
    At 45 they passed up on Walker and Hendrix in favor of Hairston.
    At 57 they drafted Gist--who now looks like a steal--but may not sign him.
    They pass over bigger name players in free agency in favor of George Mason Jr, an undersized 2.
    They signed Matt Bonner redundant Anthony Tolliver.
    They resign Kurt Thomas at a nice price--a "typical" Spur move amidst several uncertains.
    From what we know, they didn't make a run at Renaldo Balkman when he was available.
    Their flirting with Pargo, who brings scoring and ball handling but also crowds the back court and contributes to a general lack of height.

    I'm not passing judgement one way or another here, but things have not gone as one would expect.

    The Spurs 2008 off season will be looked back on in a few years as time of calculated brillance or unexpected incompetency. Only time will tell. I look forward to following this story arc.
    Last edited by tav1; 08-06-2008 at 06:36 PM.

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    Strategy is long term. It is not a series of individual moves. It is chain of events that tie into each other. You can not be myopic.
    We have no idea the reasons behind the moves right now and we will not know until they tell us their ideas or reasoning. When that happens, then you can look at the strategy as a whole and evaluate it. Making a move for Pargo plays into a bigger picture of sorts and until that is completed or unveiled we will not know if the plan is wise.

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    Spurs could be getting as many good player they can and may look to make a trade for a wing. Pargo is a good enough defender to play the 2 he has long arms but his scoring off the bench and shooting would be a boost.

    Second team: pargo, manu, Udoka, Ian, Thomas or Oberto. That gives a bit of everything, good shootin, 2 guys who can light it up and get to the rim and drawl fouls in manu and pargo. All are good defenders with Oberto being the weekest.

    I can see pargo running the break with manu and Ian running the floor. I would have to say a much improved second team.

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    This offseason is curious thus far. I'm enjoying it the way some one would a long chess match
    Yeah, let's hope the Spurs don't get pwn3d.

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    Spurs could be getting as many good player they can and may look to make a trade for a wing. Pargo is a good enough defender to play the 2 he has long arms but his scoring off the bench and shooting would be a boost.

    Second team: pargo, manu, Udoka, Ian, Thomas or Oberto. That gives a bit of everything, good shootin, 2 guys who can light it up and get to the rim and drawl fouls in manu and pargo. All are good defenders with Oberto being the weekest.

    I can see pargo running the break with manu and Ian running the floor. I would have to say a much improved second team.
    Get out of here with that Pargo defending 2s nonsense. Pargo is an above average defender, but against points, not 2 guards. Pargo is not an offensive 2, he is not a defensive 2. He's a point guard. If Pop goes small, it'll be with Parker at the 2 long before Pargo.

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