this stuff is always relative to what your hype/expectation of a player is anyway, but IMO-
i understand why some people dont like iverson, but what he did with philly was incredible. I know they were lucky and it was still a good team, but it was an incredible performance through the entire playoffs, that coming from a dude as small as him was just amazing. much more impressive IMO than anything wade has done.
i dont pin the denver disaster on iverson, at worst he is still their 2nd best player and at 33 for a guard that is no small feat. the knock on him was always that he was all speed and athleticism and he's still doing his thing.
its not a matter of who the better player is, its more of a matter of if they meet the expectations they generate. I think iverson has done a much better job of that than yao or KG, or even kobe for that matter (remember when the gasol trade went down, 90% of laker fans and their media brethren were already annointing the lakers, because "now kobe has weapons, and a man as compe ive as him can't lose." yet, win or lose, kobe underperformed badly in the finals, and got outplayed by PP). wade is a special case, because he went from under to over with the 2006 finals and is now struggling with the weight of those expectations.
10 years from now, i'm going to remember more of AI's failed finals run than I am wade v dirk or kobe losing his first finals "on his own", or yao's constant injuries.
but thats just me...
that list sucked:
5. Iverson, couldn't do anything without a cast
4. Gasol, Soft, yet somehow everyone (by that I mean laker fans) think he's a beast
3. KG, Puts up stats, but disappears in the clutch
2. Battier, How in the world did this guy suddenly get considered a great defender?
1. Agent 0, His team is actually BETTER without him, and some people still think he should be the leader.
what, no TMAC or Wince Carter?
Iverson. When I watch him play defense, I'm amazed that he is allowed to get away with what he does: he floats around looking for steals, almost never covers his guy, and is always the first to cheat upcourt for cherrypicking when a shot is released, regardless of how good the shot looks. The frustrating thing is that with his quickness he could be a good defender. He acts like he's playing for the Globetrotters or And 1.
Overrated? Amare is overrated. This monkey is a one-trick-pony. He only does the pick n' roll,,,,,nothing else. Close the paint, and he will be in foul trouble.
5 Dork Novitski
4 Paul Pierce
3 Kevin Garnett
2 Amare Stoudimire
1 Gilbert Arenas
Thats a ALL STAR team and all 5 have a chance to be HOF.
Horry has never played up to the potential seen for him as a 11th pick overall in the 1992 draft.
He's averaged back-up minutes (24.) and only had 3 years with 30 or more minutes reserved for starters.
And during that span he's averaged only 69 games per season with only 4 seasons of 80 games or more.
Perhaps its lack of playing time that is the reason his stats aren't noteworthy. For a shooter, He's only had three seasons in double figures (10, 10.2 and 12) in his first four seasons. Then he learned he could earn big money without working hard because of his 'potential'.
His only honors came in his rookie year where he was on the All-Rookie 2nd team. Wow!
Most players who earn solid reps do it on demonstrated skills, season after season, rather than a few isolated last minute shots in a very few seasons. What about the seasons and playoff games where he didn't do ? We tend to forget those.
If he gets into the the HOF it will be as an oddity because of all the rings, sort of like Bob Lanier's shoes (size 16EEEEE)
1.Tim Duncan
2. Manu Ginobli
3.Tony Parker
4. Bruce Bowen
5. Matt Bonner
Serious list
1.Arenas
2.Iverson
3. KG
4. James Posey suddenly became vastly overrated, but i like him
5. Marion
Wade is definitely #1 overrated
also
Duncan is a s of his former self but not everybody realizes it yet, so in that respect he should be on the list
"A s "? I don't think so. Duncan may not be what he was at 25, but who is? He's got a lot left, he rose in the Playoffs as he always does (except when he got sick). I believe he's got more Championships in him. As long as he stays healthy he'll be a threat again this season.Duncan is a s of his former self but not everybody realizes it yet, so in that respect he should be on the list
You can't compile an overrated list without Jermaine O'neal. At least Amare shoots over 50% as a PF. JO has been shooting, what, 42% the last couple years?
I also don't think you can call someone who has a finals MVP overrated, so quit hating on Pierce and Wade.
1. Vince Carter
2. Pau Gasol
3. Gilbert Arenas
4. Peja Stojakovic
5. TJ Ford
The people who do these lists at fox sports drink tall glasses of semen.
Wade's the best player in the league when healthy. He's by far the best player on team USA right now. Anyone that considers putting him on an overrated list knows little to nothing about basketball. He's Manu with more athletic ability.Wade is definitely #1 overrated
also
Duncan is a s of his former self but not everybody realizes it yet, so in that respect he should be on the list
Damn thats nasty!
I don't see anything overrated about leading your team to a championship. And anyone that mentions Shaq probably thought that the Suns trade was gonna work out. (Wade)
Overrated is leading your team to the best record in the league, winning regular season MVP, and losing in the first round of the playoffs in a 7 game series. This is also after losing in the finals the previous year. (Dirk)
How is Pau Gasol overrated? Last time I checked he lived up to all his scouting reports in the playoffs last year, soft.
Also, I don't think Arenas has ever been overrated. Last time I checked everyone knew he was a shoot first gunslinger. Sure he got signed to a max contract after his team was better without him but that probably had more to do with the fact that the media and revenue he generates makes him worth it in the eyes of Washington.
If they're gonna overrate someone in Houston it should have been Rafer Alston. And if you guys are gonna overrate someone in Denver instead of overrating Iverson, it should have been Melo. , make that Camby. He won Defensive MVP and led the league in blocks but still noone can seem to figure out that the overall defensive impact he has isn't really that great.
Amare is possibly the most offensively efficient player in the league. How can a guy like that be overrated? No one overrates his defense. No one overrates his rebounding. Even on a list of the best PF's in the game, very few people would put him above Duncan or Garnett.
He's appropriately rated by most, but most certainly underrated by the general Spurs fanbase.
5. Chris Paul- because according to a recent ST survey, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103001 at almost a 3:1 ratio, people think he is better than Deron Williams. That is simply not the case. Deron Williams!
4. Wade- Can't stay healthy, only got a ring because Shaq, Zo and the Refs gave him everything they had. Has the most potential to come off the list, but he has to prove he can stay healthy and effective without Shaq there.
3. Arenas- duh
2. Carlos Boozer- because he might be the worst defensive PF in the league and offensively, he melts like butter against good opposition. He should be thought of the same way you'd think of Zach Randolph.
1. Baron Davis- Besides one good season with the Hornets, The Warriors late playoff push and subsequent second round loss, he's been fat, hurt and ineffective.
overrated player is Kobe Bryant.Like popole that don't know allot about nba they say kobe is the best just beacuse he scored 81 points ore 82 in one game but thats great but hes overrated!
Shane Battier?
I never heard anyone describe as more of a quality role player (which he is)
How can you be overrated if no one says your great?
100% agreed....only time horry was any good was when he was young and in houston.(he actually played great defense) after that horry was allowed by the league to choose the next upcoming championship contender every season after he left houston. horry is not only overrated he is also a cheap shot artist. there are plenty of videos to prove that. i for one was glad the spurs didnt bring him back. with that being said and the current bigs on our roster, i wouldnt be surprised if the spurs called him up during the season
oh so true
your just plain weird....3 words seek help please
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