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Agree with Manny!
its about time.
lol at some of the fools in here spewing the same ol' tired garbage about how evil guns are.
I'll take the armed teacher who is enthusiastic about guns, protection, etc...over the 300 lb rent-a-cop at school.
What's the over/under on how long it takes for a teacher to whip out his gun to scare the out of two students who are about to fight once this phenomenon happens?
More shootings than individual murders total by all Texas CHL holders. Try reading.
Do you wear a seat belt when you drive? It can save your life. So can carrying concealed.driving to school is a much bigger risk than the risk of getting shot in school.
So less twerp, try ing reading sometime.So, less twerp, arm ALL the teachers with handguns and personal armor. Nice ing country you want.
* It's not every teacher, just ones who go through a fairly rigorous screening process.
* Where does it say anything about body armor? Quit making up, you sound even dumber than you already are.
* I'd love for my country to live in peace, but seeings sick s decide they need to prey on defenseless folks because someone called them a nerd or their parents did a ty job raising them, people deserve the right to defend themselves and not be target practice.
* I really hope someone never breaks into your home, because guess what - the cops aren't going to get there in time. They don't get to school shootings in time either.
1. It's concealed carry. If someone is concealing properly, you're never going to know they are carrying until goes down.
2. Um, yeah. A struggle? The only time a gun should come out from a CHL holder is if there is imminent threat of death or bodily injury to an individual or individuals. In short, if someone's got a gun or knife out or you've got like a 300 pound man beating the out of a 100 pound woman or something like that.
3. Seeings you have no ing clue about the responsibilities of a CHL holder, Texas law pretty much says if you pull a gun it better be to shoot someone in defense of your life or someone else's. If you just pull it as an intimidation factor, your ass is getting slapped with a felony and sent to jail.
It's a felony to brandish your weapon in such a manner, so I'll take the over from whatever liberal anti-gun dumb wants to lay odds.
Felony or not, you know it's going to happen. It's a felony to whip you out in front of children who are on the toy aisle in Walmart but Boutons does it anyway. And just so we don't get into a flame war, I'm in support of this. It's a good idea, but some asshole is going to ruin it for everybody. It always happens.
No, it doesn't always happen actually. Instead of spouting anecdotal crap why not try providing some evidence - such as how many CHL holders have been charged with brandishing a weapon irresponsibly - to back up what you're saying.
Monkey, conjecture was the point of my post. But I'm sure the statement that CHL holders never brandish their weapon irresponsibly is infallible.
so, what is a teachers weapon of choice?
sig? glock? HK?
I didn't think of it that way. I was thinking more along the lines that a teacher gets into a divorce/separation/depression/alcohol/drug abuse at some point, and unloads on the kids. You know, like that happens all the time. How many times you heard neighbors of some dude that just went to work and massacred 20 co-workers before blowing his head off saying 'He was a really nice guy. I'm shocked he could do such a thing'.
LOL, I never said it was about winning anybody's respect. But hey, time will tell how well this works. I tell you though, I would be very surprised if something like this is implemented anywhere outside of Texas...
Well your point has merit if you can find where I said as much. Reading comprehension isn't too much to ask, is it? Good luck on that search.
However if you can find any proof that CHL holders are more likely to use weapons irresponsibly I'd love to see it. Once again, good luck on that search.
Whats to stop a non CHL holder from doing that? Better yet, how many CHL holders have done this?
Here's what I found in a quick search. Out of 1.3 Million permits issued in 20 years for Florida, all of 165 have been revoked for using the weapon improperly. I guarantee the general populations rate of crimes involving a firearm are MUCH higher than that microscopic percentage.
http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/stats/cw_monthly.html
Metal detectors? They've been installed in almost every school here... along with a security guard. Then again, this is New Jersey... so it's kind of expected.
Oh I'm sorry I wasn't aware that guns weren't usable outside of schools.
The OP article is about security inside the school:
"We have a lock-down situation, we have cameras, but the question we had to answer is, 'What if somebody gets in? What are we going to do?" he said.
There some trained dudes outside the school called Police officers that handle matters outside campus.
Do you want your kid to be the one that is on the losing end of those odds? I know most parents don't and I know that all it will take is one bad incident to happen and the district will be out millions of dollars...Out of 1.3 Million permits issued in 20 years for Florida, all of 165 have been revoked for using the weapon improperly.
Actually I think it is about security on school campuses which are made up of both outside and inside areas. The point is that a person without a CHL that wants to kill children at a school is able to do so even if the school has metal detectors because they can simply use the gun at the school OUTSIDE of the area protected by metal detectors.
There is simlpy no way you can argue that a CHL makes something like this more likely to occur. The stats point to the opposite.
Liability for the district will obviously be higher in this situation, but so will the safety. Being at the end of that situation is obviously not a pleasant feeling but knowing that those situations are LESS likely to occur in this type of environment IS.
As long as the teacher is
- 1) trained and competent in the use of the weapon he packs
- 2) passes a thorough background check
- 3) obtains a concealed handgun permit from the state
- 4) keeps the weapon on his body at all times (so some jerkoff student can't go rip it off easily)
Then, I fully support him being allowed to protect himself and his students. Of course, this is assuming each state gives us our Second Amendment right, which sadly isn't the case.
This logic about the teacher going nuts is pretty stupid too. By that argument, we shouldn't have any police in a school neither. What's to stop a cop from committing mass murder at the school if he's going through a nasty divorce or gambled his money away and wants to end it all?
Weighing the chances that a school shooting will occur on campus versus some sort of mishap from someone carrying a concealed weapon in class, I think most parents would rather take their chances that nothing will happen on their child's campus...I mean, the odds aren't even close.....
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