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    I love Timmy and will always wish him well.

    But if the Spurs were to trade Manu, I could never root for them the same again.

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    By Manu playing in the ing olympics was a selfish stupid move. He knew he wasn't right but his stubborness got the better of him and now he's paying the consequences. Every decision you make there's a consequence. So it's time we trade that selfish .

    Last edited by AC#21_TD ERA; 08-22-2008 at 09:59 PM.

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    For Kori and timvp.

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    I just got home. Haven't watched the game. Is it THAT bad? Or did he just tweak his ankle again?
    It didn't even look like an injury. So he re-injured it on a cut that shouldn't have even bothered a healthy ankle. The fact that he never came back and the Agentina doctors said it was practically "impossible" to play in the bronze medal game, then yes it's bad.

    I'd say it's bad enough that I am worried about the rest of his career on bum wheels.

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    I see the point Buck is forcing here, but bad article, and unfair to Manu. Bad form.

    Funny, too. I immediately just scrolled this thread for timvp's response, and found it more enlightening than Buck's.

    I guess that's the difference between just a beat writer and a real fan.

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    I just got home. Haven't watched the game. Is it THAT bad? Or did he just tweak his ankle again?
    His landing didn't look so tragic. But it's the same ankle he hurt in the playoffs. He limped off the court, went to the locker room and didn't come out again, and now team doctors say that the ligament is very inflamed.

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    He's Manu Ginobili carina_gino20's Avatar
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    Oh God no...sounds like he's turning into Vinny Del Negro!
    It's the safest way for him now. We love him for his reckless play, but for the sake of longevity, he has to develop a reliable midrange if he doesn't want to be banged up by the time the playoffs roll around.

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    Thanks for the replies. I will be watching the game later on DVR.

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    By Manu playing in the ing olympics was a selfish stupid move. He knew he wasn't right but his stubborness got the better of him and now he's paying the consequences. Every decision you make there's a consequence. So it's time we trade that selfish .

    And the stupidity factor on ST jumps once again.

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    Trade Him While He Has Value

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    For Kori and timvp.
    Discussion from 2 and 1/2 years ago. Will Manu last past 2010 when his contract expires?

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34981

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    Thank You Manu for playing in the Olympics!! MAde us proud as !!

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    I'll add this. It really sucks he had to get hurt, and if it's serious, just rest him for a few months. It will give the Spurs bench a chance to see what they can do, and SA will still make the playoffs even if Manu only plays half the year.

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    I bet manu needs the knife

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    Manu could have just as easily done what he did to that ankle practicing in a gym somewhere, as playing in the Olympics.

    I actually do not think it is as drastic an injury as people think. I believe the Spurs got to him to keep him from playing on it.
    why did he not then oh wait he is above obeying pop
    something rasho does not like to do either

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    why did he not then oh wait he is above obeying pop
    something rasho does not like to do either
    got damn you're so ing stupid.

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    got damn you're so ing stupid.
    That's no secret. Ducks is overjoyed by Manu's injury.

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    What decision can the Spurs make? Manu's value has diminished considerably because of his increasing fragility. I don't think there would be a lot of interest if they were to put him on the trading block.

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    While Manu's dedication to his country is admirable, he owes something to the team that pays his salary. If he was healthy then the Spurs shouldn't have had any issues with him playing but since he was already trying to rehab a nagging injury that may have cost us a repeat chance this past season, he should have sat out. What's worse is Manu have also jeapordized next season in an already tough conference with this move.

    I hope the Spurs don't trade him and that they do sign him to an extension. But the new contract should stipulate restrictions on his offseason commitments to his national team.

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    The regular season doesn't matter -- as we saw last year.
    What? The regular season was HUGE last year. We really could have used HCA, don't you think?

    And HCA was absolutely vital for the Celts in their championship run. It will probably be the same for this year's champion.

    The regular season matters quite a bit IMO.

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    at the people already calling a career ending injury

    Manu will be back for spurs a few more seasons then go to Europe.

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    While Manu's dedication to his country is admirable, he owes something to the team that pays his salary. If he was healthy then the Spurs shouldn't have had any issues with him playing but since he was already trying to rehab a nagging injury that may have cost us a repeat chance this past season, he should have sat out. What's worse is Manu have also jeapordized next season in an already tough conference with this move.

    I hope the Spurs don't trade him and that they do sign him to an extension. But the new contract should stipulate restrictions on his offseason commitments to his national team.
    I'm going to say something here. Maybe Manu should have sat out the whole Lakers series. If Manu sat out the Lakers series he could have been even closer to 100% in the Olympics and not re-injured it. The result would have still been the same because the Spurs lost to the Lakers anyway with Manu playing injured.

    You can make an argument both ways. He shouldn't have played for the Spurs in the playoffs or Argentina in the Olympics.

    What would we have said as Spurs fans if Manu sat out the whole Lakers series? We probably would have wanted him to play even injured if he wasn't risking further injury to it. Argentina the same. Personally, I don't know how I would have reacted had Manu sat out that series. If his ankle was really bad I think I would have been OK with him sitting out the Lakers series, but we all know that we were going for the repeat and Manu wanted to play, no way he wanted to sit out. Same deal in the Olympics - Manu was going for the repeat and he wanted to play.

    btw this article by BUCK HARVEY is total bull . I am thinking of sending him and email for this .

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    They had to accept that the same Ginobili they love in tense moments is the same Ginobili who will sacrifice everything to play with his Argentine buddies.
    He wasn't playing with his buddies, its the ing Olympics.

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    at the people already calling a career ending injury

    Manu will be back for spurs a few more seasons then go to Europe.
    Knowing what happened to Grant Hill makes Manu's injury a huge worry, what do we know about Manu's Ankle?

    It's severely inflamed.
    His teammate Delfino said he was in a huge amount of pain even at half time about 20 minutes later.
    He has arthritis in that ankle which is aggravated by chronic inflammation, and will only get worse with continued stress.
    The Spurs had already talked with Manu about surgery.
    The injury to his left ankle is starting to pass the one time and done thing and is starting to appear to be a chronic problem, and could lead to long term structural damage to the ankle and the other parts that he uses to compensate with.
    He gets steroid injections in that ankle (at least more than a few in the past 6 months) to reduce swelling which over time degrades the elasticity of the tendons.

    Add all of that up and you get a 31 year old player who relies on his explosiveness to play the game, who may no longer have the ability to be explosive.

    I am worried about Manu's career. It's not too early to see that the end of his career isn't that many years away.

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    I'm going to say something here. Maybe Manu should have sat out the whole Lakers series. If Manu sat out the Lakers series he could have been even closer to 100% in the Olympics and not re-injured it. The result would have still been the same because the Spurs lost to the Lakers anyway with Manu playing injured.

    You can make an argument both ways. He shouldn't have played for the Spurs in the playoffs or Argentina in the Olympics.

    What would we have said as Spurs fans if Manu sat out the whole Lakers series? We probably would have wanted him to play even injured if he wasn't risking further injury to it. Argentina the same. Personally, I don't know how I would have reacted had Manu sat out that series. If his ankle was really bad I think I would have been OK with him sitting out the Lakers series, but we all know that we were going for the repeat and Manu wanted to play, no way he wanted to sit out. Same deal in the Olympics - Manu was going for the repeat and he wanted to play.

    btw this article by BUCK HARVEY is total bull . I am thinking of sending him and email for this .
    Um a lot of the spurs fans here actually were begging Manu to be forced to sit out at least the first two games of the WCF, I certainly didn't want him playing until he could at least recover from the injury, and get some of the inflammation down to the point that he wasn't risking re-injury.

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