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Nah, I'm gonna have to go with religion straight up. Even if you take the believe in God out of if, people will find something else to turn into a religion, with the same deleterious results.
Religion is a great way to make money without being taxed.
Nah, I'm gonna have to go with religion straight up. Even if you take the believe in God out of if, people will find something else to turn into a religion, with the same deleterious results.
You're the one that said "women" in the first place. Who were you referring to?
Anyway, obviously I was talking about our present time with Palin.
Religion can be a positive thing...I mean, when your in your death bed you gotta believe that there is more to death than just 'the end'...whether it's true or not it kinda gives you peace and comfort...
That's not what I said at all. There's no way to define faith; but I believe in the almighty, all knowing God and I'm not trying to dupe God. I know what I believe and why and I know I'm going to heaven when I die or I'll be raptured before then if Jesus comes back first.
I was merely stating that even if I was wrong about everything I believe, I would've lost nothing in this life. On the other hand, if baseline bum is wrong in what he believes - he has so much more to lose.
But let's not take this thread into a whole other direction - so let's leave it at that.
Palin's favorability rating amongst Democrats is declining, which is a good thing because Barack needs all the Democratic votes he can get. I'm willing to bet McCain wins the Independent vote in most swing states.
Fixed, to correct the very common conflation of religion and spirituality.
Palin is going to Washington to fix things while she refuses to cooperate with a serious investigation. Yeah, right.
'It's not religious cult BS - it's the major belief of the christian churches."
Yes, it's religious cult/fringe made-up bull , as bull t-y and con-job-ly stupid as dressing in new sports clothes, comitting suicide to hitch a ride on a comet tail, or getting conned into South American jungles and drinking the kook-aid.
Christianity goes back 2000 years. This end-times, fear-mongering bull has been dreamed up as a revenue scheme (books, hing, etc) in the past few decades.
That millions IN THE USA believe the bull con-job doesn't make it non-bull . iow. spiritual Truth is not democratically elected.
Not one of these end-times, bull ting, self-annointed "pastors" has a continuous-revelation hot-line to God, so all their end-times conned victims are sheeple. The "pastors" all "false prophets". You might want to look that in your well-thumped Bible.
I'm not going to turn this into a discussion about religion. You're free to believe or not believe, just as I am. So you can think what you like about the christians and we can think what we like about people like you - and I guess only time will tell which one of us was right. But I'll say this one last time - if I'm right, I wouldn't want to be you!
If you're right, then God's a judgmental prick who'll probably screw you over too.
Christian churches have an agenda for America - filling top positions - God country - White Christian God Country. Where else can you find the perfect setting to raise up leaders of your persuasion? Church meets twice a week where passionate involved members cry out (pray) for God to raise up christian leaders? This beats prime time ads on TV and the internet. I have seen in my church invited politicians come and speak. Did you watch Palin's speak in her church? "Pray for__________ (a sure vote) Members listen and trust their church leaders and follow their advise. Winning over the christian (chruch leaders) is the reason we see only one faith elevated in this country (when running for election.) Separate church from state? Are you kidding? The snowball has gained momentum and the only thing that will stop it is arrogance. Arrogance is when a person or group gets their way so often (living above others) that their words and deeds no longer need to be hidden. Example, when Alaskan voters VOTED TWICE TO BAN AERIAL HUNTING > Palin not only gets aerial hunting on the books she pays (with government funding) in/out of state aerial hunters! Almost half a million dollars!
Many people think Palin is a crazy, dumb, hockey mom with no experience. They are mistaken. She is not! She is an experienced politician who can gets what she wants. Our votes count? hahahaha BOOOOOOOOya take that one to the ballot box and see where it gets ya. Click link below for more info.
"This is the third time there's been a statewide vote on this issue. The other votes were in 1996 and 2000, both against aerial shooting.
The first vote was overwhelmingly against the issue and the second vote was a very strong majority.
However, the state Legislature overturned both of those decisions." Lori Tipton
In conclusion Palin is one smart cookie with the backing of church leaders. "Touch not my anointed." Bets were taken long before about Palin stopping the investigation days before the election. NOW HERE WE SEE IT HAPPENING o? After the election who cares ... she'll be just be another abuse of power giving God a black eye.
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Why do you believe in thousand year old fairy tales?
Jesus was not the son of God. He may have existed historically, but people were ing stupid thousands of years ago. They believed a lot o ridiculous like the earth is flat and that we are in the center of our solar system. Furthermore, why would God reveal himself thousands of years ago to people and then not come back ever again to show his face? What was so special about a thousand years ago that he had to come to Earth?
The more you ask yourself these questions the more you'll realize Christianity is one giant fairy tale. It's sad that ordinary people can be hoodwinked like you.
@ MadHatter Hoodwinked? Are you speaking to me? If so that is interesting that's all you took from my post. Maybe it is the bitterness that blinds you for whatever reasons (triggers>experiences) you have from your past. Who knows?
Wake UP call: You DO NOT know what my beliefs are so your Gaawd like judgments are similar to the religious right who turn you off and blind you from other peoples input/ideas. How ironic.
Kind of like they did with Obama, who doesn't seem nearly as popular as he was a few months ago.
"if I'm right, I wouldn't want to be you"
Even if you and the pitbull are right (she said she believes End Times be coming in her lifetime), I have no fear about my soul, nor do I fear for the souls of billions of people's souls not in your perverted group.
I'm extremely contented being OUTSIDE of your tent reeking of brain-washing, money-scamming bull .
Muslims, esp the extremists identical in belief as End Times "Christians", have the same in-group/out-group, us-vs-them position: "infidels" (non-believers) must be killed, and they draw such a position from literal interpretation of their "Bible", just as "people like you" do.
Question about UFOs...
You dont? Experienced pilot testimonies? French Government declassifying? Etc?
Oh, there was a huge bang.........and a creature crawled up onto land and developed into an intelligent human being 1 billion years later is just as believable?
If Im wrong about Christianity, oh well at least Ive tried to live a bit better........If Im right and you are wrong..........you are in trouble.
I have nothing to lose.
So God created the earth and heavens in 7 days, then?
And yes, there was a Huge Bang. Read a book sometime. Our universe is ever expanding and thru triangulation from our galaxy to the two nearest galaxies, we are all receding from one another at a nice, brisk pace from a common center.
Way to go.
LMAO when people use the hedging their bets argument to justify belief.
Seriously, BB....about the UFO thing. Just a quick opinion, or a long one....your choice.
Im just a'wonderin'.
Nope, I don't believe in UFOs since I have seen no decent evidence.
Fair enough. But if others had/have observed them, like the numerous private/military pilots, would you lump them into the "dumbass" pile?
Im not necessarily saying Alien-piloted Flying Saucers, but there has been phenomena recorded that isnt explainable. Guys that have flown for over 30 years, military test pilots familiar with the latest and greatest the government has to offer, that can not explain away what they saw.
Obviously, I dont know from Shinola on the subject because a) Im not a pilot and b) I dont find myself looking to the sky too often waiting for something to run across it that I cant explain.
The French Government recently declassified all their do ents that referenced UFOs and basically have a policy of "the world should know" as of now. The Russians are next in line to do the same thing (so its said, Ill believe it when I see it).
So, my question to you is....what would it take for you to believe? A personal sighting? A government sanctioned report admitting their existence? A video of excellent quality from a reputable source?
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I'll unhijack the thread now.
Too late.
my own personal sighting would make me 99% a believer. A govt report would make me about 50% a believer and a video of high quality from a reputable source would make me about a 10% believer because I rarely ever believe what I see on TV.So, my question to you is....what would it take for you to believe? A personal sighting? A government sanctioned report admitting their existence? A video of excellent quality from a reputable source?
My personal belief is that all of these UFOs are military experiments. You may or may not be surprised at the flight technology we are capable of incorporating in today's times.
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