the only thing i hate about that quote/kcf joke is the comedian it came from... dude sucks just like dane crook plus he's a fat little er who is making fun of the same fast food his ass eats on a daily basis.
So anyway...Josh Howard is a ing dumbass...
All the talk about not standing during the national anthem, etc to prove a point is ing dumb too...
Sure, you have a right to sit there...I dont give a really, your the one that looks like a disrespectful bag while doing it....go you, i guess.
If you think you are some how proving a point, your a lost cause. im sure you feel like a real "Che" Guevara sitting there, while the rest of the people in attendance wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.
so in short, get over yourself.
I don't care what people think, I'm not doing it to get a reaction. I just think enforced patriotism is weird and creepy
At a sporting event no less.
"Yes, great national anthem, God Bless Lady Liberty and all her loyal citizens, now it's time to watch the Spurs!................hey YOU JASON TERRY YOU TURTLE HEADED GOT! I HOPE YOU ING DIE!"
Exactly, it always feels superficial and fake to me.
"I'm a pussy that needs others to respond for me."
I agree too, Josh Howard's a friggin' idiot over this national anthem stunt.
I don't care what he believes but he's talking into a camera, what did he think would happen?
1) He's set back black people 100 years by making them look ignorant and un-patriotic.
2) WTF does being black have to do with not celebrating the Star Spangled Banner? I've seen quite a few soul groups get jiggity with the Star Spangled Banner, so why is he dragging them into the hole with him?
3) He's a sports star and for better or worse, there be kids looking up to him
4) If he had any chances for endorsement deals, they're now officially blown
If he's trying to protest the Star Spangled Banner cuz of Slavery, I'd love to see if he'd be making millions in Africa now. You can't be enjoying a millionaire easy life style and criticizing slavery of 200 years ago. If he wants to protest slavery, donate his Lexus and his house to an African charity and then I'd understand his "protest".
And with that video, he can be assured he's screwed himself of several million at his next contract extension. There just won't be that many teams competing for an ignorant, unpatriotic "black" man who smokes pot and drag races cars.
If he doesn't want to stand at attention during the star spangled banner, sure whatever. But saying so on camera is just stupid and 100x more stupid for saying "cuz I'm black".
Chris Rock said it best, "There's Black people, and then theres N..... I love Black people, but I hate N......"
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He thought it was a private moment, which is not a good assumption in the youtube/cellphone camera era.
So as a result of this, Jim Crow is back on? Really? Pump your brakes on the hyperbole...besides, while "the flag" might mean soldiers defending our freedom to some, is it so unacceptable to a black man from North Carolina that it might mean something else entirely?1) He's set back black people 100 years by making them look ignorant and un-patriotic.
Quite a bit.2) WTF does being black have to do with not celebrating the Star Spangled Banner?
Josh Howard isn't responsible for raising your kids, that's your job.3) He's a sports star and for better or worse, there be kids looking up to him
That ship sailed a long time ago in a cloud of smoke....he did have a commercial running here in DFW for Apple Orthodontics, but his teeth are straight now, so I guess that's over with now.4) If he had any chances for endorsement deals, they're now officially blown
Good for him that he signed his new deal last year and nobody will remember this the next time he's a FA.And with that video, he can be assured he's screwed himself of several million at his next contract extension.
He'll be well over 30 when he's a FA, so lack of interest in a big contract will probably be due to a decline in his skills.There just won't be that many teams competing for an ignorant, unpatriotic "black" man who smokes pot and drag races cars.
First of all, Josh Howard did not go on tv and make these comments. It was indeed stupid and naive to think this wouldn't come out, but does it surprise you that some African-Americans might feel hostility or a lack of reverence for the US of A?If he doesn't want to stand at attention during the star spangled banner, sure whatever. But saying so on camera is just stupid and 100x more stupid for saying "cuz I'm black".
Are you black? I think white people lost their n-word privileges a long time ago. No personal offense is intended here, you're one of the better Laker fans on the board and I usually like your takes, just disagree vehemently here. Peace.Chris Rock said it best, "There's Black people, and then theres N..... I love Black people, but I hate N......"
Exactly, its one thing to be a dumbass on the internet, or with your " 's" or whatever...its another thing to be a dumbass when unfortunate kids look up to you to learn how to be when they are your age.
Hence you have the dip s filming the whole thing, and people on internet message boards trying to act like it wasnt a compelely ignorant thing to say.
No offense to Findog and Monosylawhatever, i dont know you, and you guys are probably OK fellas...id imagine a good 60% of what your spouting here is for reaction factor only...regardless you cant ignore the fact that what he said, how he said it, and the reaction of the peers around him was all grade A dumbassery...you guys are smart enough to at least admit that eh?
Your smart enough to not be that ignorant id hope...I dont have to explain the reasoning here do i?Josh Howard isn't responsible for raising your kids, that's your job.
More i read what you guys are spouting, the more it looks like you guys are just trying to argue for the sake of the argument.
That does explain some.
If it's about slavery give back the millions to Africa and protest all you want and people will view you as a martyr instead of a dumbass.So as a result of this, Jim Crow is back on? Really? Pump your brakes on the hyperbole...besides, while "the flag" might mean soldiers defending our freedom to some, is it so unacceptable to a black man from North Carolina that it might mean something else entirely?
Before, I liked JHo, and if I had kids, I wouldn't care if they looked up to him. But now, if I had kids and they said they wanted to be like Josh Howard, I'd beat them until they say "Josh who?"Josh Howard isn't responsible for raising your kids, that's your job.
That ship sailed a long time ago in a cloud of smoke....he did have a commercial running here in DFW for Apple Orthodontics, but his teeth are straight now, so I guess that's over with now.I don't think any team will forget this as they do look into player history when signing a player. Nobody really cares if JHo gets paid or not except JHo and I think he's screwed himself out of millions. His next contract won't be over MLE if he makes it that long in the NBA.Good for him that he signed his new deal last year and nobody will remember this the next time he's a FA.
He's 28 now so he'll be 30 at his next contract talks. He's a dumbass, he has only hurt himself and his value with the last couple of dumb moves. He had a promising career only a couple of years ago and now he's the next Ron Artest.He'll be well over 30 when he's a FA, so lack of interest in a big contract will probably be due to a decline in his skills.
No not at all. But if you're making millions here in the US of A, wtf are you hostile about? The poor man on the street has plenty of reasons but here's a guy who $10 million a year. If he's angry about slavery, give the millions back to African charities and then I'd applaud his ass. Right now, he's being a hypocrite.First of all, Josh Howard did not go on tv and make these comments. It was indeed stupid and naive to think this wouldn't come out, but does it surprise you that some African-Americans might feel hostility or a lack of reverence for the US of A?
Half-breed, black mom, white dad. And of course, no offense to you and apologize if you are black. I like racial jokes, especially Chris Rock... all in good fun because I think everybody is different in a good way. I got black, asian and white relatives...no hispanic relatives though.Are you black? I think white people lost their n-word privileges a long time ago. No personal offense is intended here, you're one of the better Laker fans on the board and I usually like your takes, just disagree vehemently here. Peace.
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i dont know if anyone has posted the AP story link.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
I think its funny how:
1)His agent didn't return calls
2)Donnie Nelson directed questions to Cuban
3)Cuban declined to comment via e-mail
He is a dumb ass!! I bet he is just upset that he did not even get asked to play with the USA in the olympics?
l.o.l.
He did get asked to try out for the Olympic team but he turned it down.He is a dumb ass!! I bet he is just upset that he did not even get asked to play with the USA in the olympics?
They're probably having dinner with the fans of J R Smith.
Bottom Line: Josh Howard < Malcom X.
I've not used one word in this thread defending Josh Howard. I despise the guy and wish he wasn't on the Mavericks.
I've only spoken out against the Toby Keith "We'll put a boot in your ass if you don't stand for the national anthem" idiocy being spouted.
And honestly, Josh Howard could post a video on YouTube of himself jacking off onto an American flag, and I wouldn't give two s about it if he would attack the basket aggressively and play hard-nosed defense. His life outside the game of basketball is his own business.
Is he an idiot for what he said and did? Most people think so, and that's just fine with me. He deserves no defense. But my grievances against him are the fact that his actions represent how little he cares about his role on the team.
while sitting are you spewing obscenities and running down this country? i mean it is your right to do so if you do, but i would hope that you aren't. as far as you choosing not to stand during the anthem....i don't like it, i don't respect it, however, you have that right and so be it. I am not going to judge you, insult you, or even threaten you with violence. I agree with Tully on this stance. besides, people that are confined to wheelchairs don't stand either.
I not know why they play national anthems at sporting events, however, I am glad they do. I also stand tall and sing the anthem. I even get teary eyed, cause everytime I hear it, I think about all of the members of my family and other families who have fought for the freedoms that I possess. It hits me all the way to the bone, and I get misty.
We all have our little beliefs that others disagree with or get irked by.
I guess Josh Howard is a slave like Warren Sapp..........I wish Kunta was still alive, he would be walking around on two nubs after breaking a foot off in each of their pompous asses.
we didn't land on Jason Kidd Jason Kidd landed on us
Which puts your logic of being a jumper (off the Mavs bandwagon...which gives you a SMALLER penis) more logic SONIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC
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