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    I think it will look like this:

    12 man roster -
    KT, Oberto
    Duncan, Ian, Bonner
    Bruce, Ime
    Manu, Mason, Finley
    Parker, Hill

    IR -
    Vaughn, Tolliver, (then this spot is up in the air for whomever can help the Toros.)

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    finally.

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    This has to be the weakest the bench has been in a decade. Hate to say it, truly hate to say it.
    it, we'll still win.

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    I think it will look like this:

    12 man roster -
    KT, Oberto
    Duncan, Ian, Bonner
    Bruce, Ime
    Manu, Mason, Finley
    Parker, Hill

    IR -
    Vaughn, Tolliver, (then this spot is up in the air for whomever can help the Toros.)
    So you're assuming Stoudamire won't make the team?

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    So you're assuming Stoudamire won't make the team?
    Until his contract status comes out, I am going to assume that it is unguaranteed. Which if that is the case, I think they will keep Vaughn. Either way, either Vaughn or Salim will be on the IR and if that is the case, then why not save money (by not having to buy someone out) and have a great locker room guy and player/coach?

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    This has to be the weakest the bench has been in a decade. Hate to say it, truly hate to say it.
    I think it may be the youngest/most inexperienced/most unpredictable bench we've had in quite a while, but I don't think any of us really know how these guys are going to do. Hill, Mason, Mahinmi, and even Bonner and Stoudamire are virtual unknowns when it comes to consistent playing time in this system.

    That's the downside to a youth movement. Veterans are fairly predictable; young players are not, both in good and bad ways. I don't think there's any way of knowing at this point whether these guys will be upgrades or downgrades to known quan ies like Vaughn, Barry, Finley, or Horry.

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    Maybe I am being a little presumptuous with Hill being on the active 12 man, but I just do not know what to think about the Hill situation.

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    Finally!!

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    Hill will most likely see minutes early in year while Vaughn stays on IR. I think Vaughn stays on IR for as long as the spurs need him. But i think the spurs try and see what they have with Hill and Stoudamire. And if either Hill or Stoudamire dont pan out Vaughn will switch spots with the unlucky one. I really hope POP justs allows Mason to play and start him right away!! Pop playing Finley early will hurt us.We know what he can do but we need to see how the rest adjust to the new system. I think most will be surprised about Stoudamire tho..He never got the right chance to show his stuff playing with Atlanta.

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    Awesome. Now, we have a problem at the PG spot, unless they decide to use Stoudamire in a Luther head type role, which is undersized SG.

    The Stoudamire signing looked good, but bad for Hill until this. Now, it's looking bad for Vaughn, unless the Spurs are thinking about trading Hill.

    Who knows. Hey, let's get rid of Bonner next. That would be great.

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    Hill is gonna be like any other Rookie. He's going to sit on the bench, play in garbage minutes and cheer his teammates on.

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    Bout Time!!!!!

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    Good for Hill. I'm sure there were many days attending the little known IUPUI that he wondered if he would ever make it to the NBA. He put up unbelievable numbers in college, worked hard on his game, and now he has a chance to be the rookie back up point guard on a championship caliber team. Plus, he's a millionaire. Not bad at all. A nice American success story.

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    Good for him. Hope he earns those $$$.

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    The more I think about the Spurs last two signings (Stoudamire and Hill), the more I think Jacque Vaughn will be out the door by the trade deadline, or even before the season starts.
    No, not dump truck.

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    I was just getting used to the drafting of Hill, until Pop went on his offseason backcourt signing flurry.

    Call me a killjoy, but I really wish Nicolas Batum would've been available to the Spurs @ #26. With all the flurry of low-end, backcourt player signings they've made this offseason, the drafting of a young swingman, of Batum's ilk, would've not only filled a void, but would've also balanced out the roster a bit better.
    Last edited by SenorSpur; 09-24-2008 at 11:25 AM.

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    The fact that they signed Stoudamire means that they will make Hill earn any PT he gets this season. Let's face it...if they were truly sold on giving Hill minutes they would've just let him compete with Jacque Vaughn.

    This training camp is HUGE for Hill and I hope he steps up.

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    Hill will be fun to watch guarenteed. If he fits in nicely, it will be interesting seeing him team up with manu.

    Doesn't anyone else also think that the spurs system seems to be going towards an interchangeable 1, 2 guard when tony is on bench?

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    Bruno and timvp. The writer only states what the high of the scale is (120%). He doesn't say what he signed for.

    Like I have been saying, the Spurs were probably holding off on signing him because they had gotten a willingness from Hill for the Spurs to play with the $335K of flex (80-120% of swing)
    Its always about the money. Is it me or Spurs just try to discount everybody on the roster except big 3? I'm studying accounting and kindda surprise why there is no case study about Spurs

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    This is worst Spurs roster in long time. We will not see championship this year.

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    34 more days until we get to see if he gets to be starting backup for Tony or not. I cant wait and it is driving me crazy!!!

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    This is worst Spurs roster in long time. We will not see championship this year.
    Yeah, they'd be much better off if they had signed a bunch of soft Eurotrash.

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    This is worst Spurs roster in long time. We will not see championship this year.
    We?

    you got a mouse in your pocket there fake euro?

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    The big question now is Stoudamire deal.

    If it's guaranteed we have 14 players under contract and 5 guys will be fighting for one spot in training camp.

    We have 4PGs but I think Pop may try to use Hill or Stoudamire at SG. I don't know if it'll work since bouth are very small
    I agree. I think pop and FO have come to the realization that Hill is a much better sg than pg and will be used as such. Saying that, I think they will still try to groom him as a backup pg but use him as a sg, hence the signing of Stoudamire. I just hope this Stoudamire is better than the last one.

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    This is worst Spurs roster in long time. We will not see championship this year.
    You can't tell, by looking at paper. You have to see them on wood, first.

    Not much has changed in the top 10. The unknown is how much better or worse the Spurs will be with Mason instead of Barry, if Finley will be supplanted by Mason or some combination of Mason/Udoka/Hill, and if Horry can be replaced by Mahinmi or some combination of Mahinmi/Tolliver/Bonner...and of course the Ginobili in the playoffs.

    Top players, ranked by minutes/game PLAYOFFS
    2007-08..............2008-09
    1. Duncan...............Duncan
    2. Parker.................Parker
    3. Ginobili................Ginobili
    4. Bowen................Bowen
    5. Finley.................Finley
    6. Oberto................Oberto
    7. Thomas..............Thomas
    8. Udoka.................Udoka
    9. Barry..................Mason
    10. Horry................Mahinmi/Bonner/Tolliver

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