Guys like Starbury would only come to the Spurs for 1 reason, to win a ring. Spurs, I believe, still have the $5.5M mid-level exception (MLE) to offer him (same one they offered to Maggette). I don't know if he's matured enough to consider a ring the most important thing left in his career.
Exactly true about the very talented Marbury. Marbury's best years were with the Minnesota Timberwolves early on. He and KG made the Wolves extremely promising and then all of a sudden KG gets a massive contract and Marbury starts crying. It was a long time ago but he said something like "I can't live with the fact that KG makes that much more money than me". The Wolves could have been contenders for the last decade if Marbury hadn't said the town wasn't big enough for the two of them.
At this point, I don't think Marbury will be available for at least a month. Spurs will give Mason some heavy tryout time to sink or swim. If Mason can't provide that scoring punch I think the Spurs will be heavily in pursuit of Marbury.
Even with all his crying, conditioning issues and primadonna junk, Starbury is still a top 10 point guard. Well worth the MLE on a veteran team but I don't know if he's ready to take a back seat at age 31.
Last edited by Allanon; 09-24-2008 at 07:22 AM.
I aint rooting for Starberry. And his skills are nowhere near where they use to be. But noway can he be compared to damon/exel. Those 2 were way beyond their days. Starberry still has a season or 2 left. The other 2 were plain has beens. Put it this way. When damon/exel were on the floor, we stunk. I dont think that would happen with Starberry.
After last season's blip can he mentally take it in the House of Pop?
OK. As much as I detest the notion, the Spurs could actually be player for Marbury's services, assuming he is released.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar..._or_clippers/#
Not only will Stephon Marbury be at training camp next Tuesday in Saratoga, but so will Allan Houston. Again.
Houston has accepted the club's offer to attend training camp, two sources close to the former All-Star guard told The Post yesterday morning.
Meanwhile, Knicks president Donnie Walsh last night denied a report Marbury will be waived by week's end. Walsh said through a spokesman, "He is coming to training camp. We have not approached Stephon about a buyout."
However, there's a strong possibility Marbury could be released during camp, which would give Houston a better chance of making it. The Knicks will have 17 players, two over the maximum. Houston, who hasn't played a regular-season game since the 2004-2005 season when microfracture knee surgery cut short his career, would need to beat out Marbury and, ironically, his former teammate's son, Patrick Ewing Jr.
Last preseason, Houston, 37, lasted just one week and one game. He arrived a week late as he awaited his daughter's birth and didn't give himself a fair shot. In March, Houston told The Post he planned on a second comeback for 2008-2009, saying he felt his knees were stronger.
To change their culture, the Knicks have seriously considered a Marbury divorce since July after signing Chris Duhon and Anthony Roberson. The team prefers to work out a buyout settlement to avoid paying the Knicks guard the entire $21.9 million haul.
A team source said Marbury's departure thus could become complicated because ownership doesn't want to give Marbury $21.9 million to play for conference rival Miami. The Knicks could hold Marbury hostage through camp if he doesn't agree to a settlement.
Reached yesterday by The Post, Marbury said he hasn't been approached by the club and attended its voluntary workouts Monday. Marbury, down to less than 200 pounds, said he's in the best shape of his career and claimed the only thing Walsh said to him Monday was, "You look great."
Marbury, who could wind up in Miami, Boston, San Antonio or the Clippers, said he has no desire to work out a settlement.
"There wouldn't be no negotiation," Marbury said. "They're going to give me all my money. ... If they want to waive me and give me all my money, fine. If not, I'll try to help this organization win the championship. They told me to come to camp in the best shape of my life and I did that. But I don't want to be in a place I'm not wanted."
The Spurs do not have the MLE. They gave a significant portion to Roger Mason when the Maggette deal fell through. So they have what is left over of the MLE (~1.9 M) and the LLE (~1.9 M).
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8...0813162&ATT=73
Knicks bring in Houston, keep Marbury for nowby MARC BERMAN, New York Post
Updated: September 24, 2008, 8:52 AM EST 10 comments add this RSS blog email Print Not only will Stephon Marbury be at New York Knicks training camp next Tuesday in Saratoga, but so will Allan Houston. Again.
Meanwhile, Knicks president Donnie Walsh denied a report Marbury will be waived by week's end. Walsh said through a spokesman, "He is coming to training camp. We have not approached Stephon about a buyout."
However, there's a strong possibility Marbury could be released during camp, which would give Houston a better chance of making it. The Knicks will have 17 players, two over the maximum. Houston, who hasn't played a regular-season game since the 2004-2005 season when microfracture knee surgery cut short his career, would need to beat out Marbury and, ironically, his former teammate's son, Patrick Ewing Jr.
Last preseason, Houston, 37, lasted just one week and one game. He arrived a week late as he awaited his daughter's birth and didn't give himself a fair shot. In March, Houston told The Post he planned on a second comeback for 2008-2009, saying he felt his knees were stronger.
To change their culture, the Knicks have seriously considered a Marbury divorce since July after signing Chris Duhon and Anthony Roberson. The team prefers to work out a buyout settlement to avoid paying the Knicks guard the entire $21.9 million haul.
A team source said Marbury's departure thus could become complicated because ownership doesn't want to give Marbury $21.9 million to play for conference rival Miami. The Knicks could hold Marbury hostage through camp if he doesn't agree to a settlement.
Reached yesterday by The Post, Marbury said he hasn't been approached by the club and attended its voluntary workouts Monday. Marbury, down to less than 200 pounds, said he's in the best shape of his career and claimed the only thing Walsh said to him Monday was, "You look great."
Marbury, who could wind up in Miami, Boston, San Antonio or the Clippers, said he has no desire to work out a settlement.
"There wouldn't be no negotiation," Marbury said. "They're going to give me all my money. ... If they want to waive me and give me all my money, fine. If not, I'll try to help this organization win the championship. They told me to come to camp in the best shape of my life and I did that. But I don't want to be in a place I'm not wanted."
With the new regime of Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni, Houston zeroed in on the Knicks, with the potential of becoming a special adviser if his tryout fails.
He's better than any backup PG we have now, at least offensively...Not sure about his at ude/defense though.
One of the wort characters in world's professional sport
Waiving Marbury is one of the best moves the Knicks ever made.
One of the worst characters in the world's professional sport business.
Waiving Marbury is one of the best moves the Knicks ever made.
character guys are overrated IMO..if Marbury messes up, we release him..he isn't going to be getting a big contract..I don't think he would mess up though..the guy is trying to prove himself, he's trying to show that he's matured..he has to show the whole league that he can still play, and he has to make the Knicks regret releasing him..
I'm not a fan of his at all, but I live in NY, and the guy is a fan favorite when his game is on..he's good for the community when he's happy..and best of all, he STILL has talent..he's still an upgrade for our team..I'd take the chance..
having Marbury and Ginobili off the bench would be disgusting..that's instant offense, and that's obviously something we need..
Marbury is the ultimate looser.
Walsh is really cleaning up the mess.
Knicks in the ECF in 3 years.
Maybe 2 with a Lebron James-For-Nothing "trade" a-la-Gasol.
But seriously, you guys do realize that there's no way he'd sign with the Spurs for cheap? Right?
My question exactly.
His offense was so impressive with the Knicks that they're considering paying him to go away.
even if he's for free, no way.
Marbury is a nutcase, truly insane. Haven't you heard the crazy he's been spewing over the last 18 months?
No way our FO would sign him if they wouldn't go for Artest, because... *gulp* ...Artest is SANER than Marbury, no .
NO.
Looks like the Knicks are gonna give Marbury another chance but this whole thing isn't looking pretty:
- Marbury worked out like crazy during the offseaon and he's back in superb shape.
- Knicks might be waiting for other teams to settle in before they cut Marbury...like him or not, he's extremely talented and tons of teams will be looking for him if he's cut
- Marbury's kind of angry but at the same time, I think he know's he has to ball this year or the gravy train (in the next contract) will be gone. I don't doubt that he loves s om in New York...he's not willing to give that up now that it can become a reality
- Oh, and no way in will he come off the bench in New Yor
MARBURY TO KNICKS: MAKE UP YOUR MIND
by Marc Berman
Stephon Marbury Stephon Marbury told The Post yesterday if the club already has decided to waive him before the season opener, team president Donnie Walsh should do it now and not prolong the saga.
Marbury wants to stay with the Knicks New York Knicks , but doesn't want to be a lame duck when the Knicks kick off training camp in Saratoga Springs. Sources said yesterday, however, Walsh is giving Marbury a legitimate chance to stick with the team. Owner James Dolan may be unwilling to eat $21.9 million until he sees him in action.
The Knicks point guard took his physical yesterday at the Westchester practice facility and was told to be ready for Tuesday's training camp at Skidmore College. Nobody from the organization has told him he will not be part of the season. But they also haven't told him to ignore the media reports, stating he's toast and hopes he's not being kept on as a negotiating tactic.
"If I'm a distraction and I'm all these different things, why would you want to keep somebody like that?" Marbury asked. "It can't be about the money. If you feel you're better without me, just let me go. If not, let's get down to the business of playing basketball. We shouldn't be talking about me getting waived or not. We should be talking about bringing playoff life back to the Garden like when I got here (in 2004)."
Marbury said he is concerned about becoming a distraction during training camp.
"We need to concentrate on how we're going to win, not whether I'm getting waived or if I'm getting all my money," Marbury said.
One conspiracy theory is Walsh and Mike D'Antoni are waiting so Marbury would have less of a chance to adjust to a new team, which could turn out to be conference rival Miami. The Knicks' season opener is against the Heat Oct. 29 at the Garden.
The other possibility is because Marbury reported under 200 pounds (197) and is in terrific shape, the Knicks feel his trade value could increase during the preseason. For that matter, they may have decided to keep him for that reason. Marbury, who hasn't been this light since his playing days at Lincoln High, has one year and $21.9 million left on his pact.
Walsh and D'Antoni will hold a press conference at the Garden today and likely will give Marbury a vote of confidence. But Marbury said he doesn't want to be kept around for the wrong reasons.
"It shouldn't matter if I go to a team in the same conference or a rival team," Marbury said. "They are concentrating on the direction best for them. There's nothing wrong with that - nothing wrong with change. If D'Antoni feels he needs to go in another direction with a starting point guard (Chris Duhon), that's fine. I know I'm going to play someplace else.
"I know what I can do on the basketball court. They know as well. There are newspaper writers and other people saying I can't play anymore. I want to prove to my fans . . . what I can do."
Would he be willing to be a backup?
"I'm not coming off the bench here in New York," Marbury said.
Nor is he willing to take less than the $21.9 million if approached about a buyout. Nevertheless, Marbury said he would donate any new contract money to charity.
"Why is (a buyout) even an issue," Marbury said. "It's my contract. I earned it. I wouldn't take a penny less."
Marbury said he would like more feedback from his bosses, considering the media swirl regarding his future.
"If D'Antoni feels a certain way, he should speak his peace now," Marbury said. "If he feels he's going in a different direction with Duhon, that's fine with me. It's OK. No problem at all. But it shouldn't be about the money. It should be about building the franchise and nobody should be worried where I go."
Hmmn. He won't play backup in New York. Would he for the Spurs?
I don't like his every penny crap, but i do like his donation to charity on new contract.
Mixed messages. Is Marbury interested in a Championship or not?
What are the Knicks gonna do?
If the guy wants to play ball he could help, I just think his love for the game is gone. But he could help someone for sure.
I would not be shocked to see Denver and the Lakers give him a look. GS would also be a good fit because it would allow Ellis to play the 2 which he is better at.
Boston might take a look. But most likely he signs with Miami or Philly.
If the Knicks buyout his contract he'll get $21.9M this year. Finley signed with San Antonio for next to nothing under similar cir stances because he wanted a ring....and he got one (hopefully two).
Starbury isn't Finley. He's more like Maggettie. Show him the $$$ or a starting position and he'll jump on it. If he actually wanted to win and come here he'd be lobbying for the starting job about 3 weeks into the season. He's Michael Vick w/o the pit bulls. He's said he wants to play in Italy. Jeez!!! This uncultural freak playing in Italy so he experience the culture? He should play in Sicily so that he can disappear silently.
Pop's gonna yell at him for sure ,can he stand that ?
i can't remember how many times he droped out games during the seasons.
if he can handle himself , that's a good idea to give him a chance to try out.
that doesn't have anything to do with his game or skill though..it's his at ude..I can't put that completely on him though, I'm seeing first-hand how dysfunctional the entire Knicks organization is..
the Knicks aren't good enough to ignore Marbury's off-court antics and at ude problems, just because he has talent..they aren't going anywhere, so it's just a headache..but if you put him on a contender, that team CAN ignore his antics, because he'd be a key contributor in important games..
That's funny stuff right there, and if he's going to donate his next contract to charity, what teams have in monetary reserve is irrelavant. I'm sure teams do not want to pay even half of his current salary, that could be why things have stalled. I'm simply guessing.
He is a strong, quick and an offensively potent guard, I have no objection because his minutes would be limited anyways. Aside from that, we are missing a top player who scores quite a bit. I'm not convinced this locker room can't mold people, and aside from that, players already know what they are getting themselves into when considering the Spurs. The concepts of this team are widely known. With all of this in mind, I wouldn't mind him if this came to be at some point this season.
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