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    Congressional approval rating:

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    RCP Average 09/19 - 09/30 17.8 75.6 -57.8 
    CBS News 09/27 - 09/30 18 77 -59 
    GW/Battleground 09/21 - 09/25 17 77 -60 
    FOX News 09/22 - 09/23 17 73 -56 
    NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 09/19 - 09/22 15 73 -58 
    CNN/OpinionResearch 09/19 - 09/21 22 78 -56

    Those registrations by party ID don't mean near as much as you guys think they do.

    Sin,

    Whottt, a registered idiot.
    fixed it.

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    Congressional approval rating:

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    RCP Average 09/19 - 09/30 17.8 75.6 -57.8 
    CBS News 09/27 - 09/30 18 77 -59 
    GW/Battleground 09/21 - 09/25 17 77 -60 
    FOX News 09/22 - 09/23 17 73 -56 
    NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 09/19 - 09/22 15 73 -58 
    CNN/OpinionResearch 09/19 - 09/21 22 78 -56

    Those registrations by party ID don't mean near as much as you guys think they do.

    Sin,

    Whottt, a registered Democrat.

    Obama enjoys the support of like 91% of registered Democrats. You being in the nine percent group is reflected in the polls.

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    Hey Manny...where did you get that link to North Carolina trends, and do they have other states?

    That is a revelatory bit of info there....

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    Obama enjoys the support of like 91% of registered Democrats. You being in the nine percent group is reflected in the polls.


    I don't do polls...

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    I don't do polls...
    You did right after the RNC and at the height of Palin mania. You posted poll updates everyday. Why did you stop doing that?

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    You did right after the RNC and at the height of Palin mania. You posted poll updates everyday. Why did you stop doing that?
    Obviously because the Liberal Media took hold and started ing with the internals. God...why are you some dumb Findog lib?

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    Look at my sig...he says McCain will get more votes than Bush in 2004, and Obama will receive less than Kerry. If McCain wins, it's by the skin of his teeth.

    With a steady 5-7 point lead in the polls, at certain point the RNC will shift money to congressional races.

    The GOP should write off the presidential race and try to avoid a 60 seat Democratic Senate.
    I completely agree.

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    Those registrations by party ID don't mean near as much as you guys think they do.

    Sin,

    Whottt, a registered Democrat.
    And how much do I think they mean?

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    I completely agree.
    And I would be fine with that, we need some balance in government. I don't want the Democrats to have a veto-proof majority. It's not good for democracy.

    The thing that would make me happiest is on November 5th when President-Elect Obama tells Joe Lieberman to go himself and caucus with the GOP.

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    Hey Manny...where did you get that link to North Carolina trends, and do they have other states?

    That is a revelatory bit of info there....
    Sadly I got it off a forum. Its not an official bit of info, but I trust the source a great deal so I figured I would repost it here.

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    And I would be fine with that, we need some balance in government. I don't want the Democrats to have a veto-proof majority. It's not good for democracy.
    Yeah, I've said as much. I don't want the GOP to lose the fillibuster.

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    Oh and I believe that MN poll. MN is the only state where McCain has outspent Obama. However, now that MI is out of play, Obama can shift some more money there.

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    Oh and I believe that MN poll. MN is the only state where McCain has outspent Obama. However, now that MI is out of play, Obama can shift some more money there.
    The internals of that poll are bull . Minnesota is not going for McCain.

    Here's how we know it's pure crap:

    Age 65+:

    Obama: 52%
    McCain: 42%

    So you want to start by telling me that Obama is winning seniors, McCain's BEST cons uency across the entire country in every single state, by 10%? And yet Obama's still losing Minnesota?

    This isn't a "slight" outlier! It's flat bull- !

    Obama would be blowing McCain out of the water if he were leading seniors by 10%!

    Take a look at the Connecticut 9/24/- 9/25 SUSA poll:

    Obama support by age demographic:

    58% of 18-34
    55% of 35-49
    51% of 50-64
    49% of 65+

    Like everywhere, the older the voter, the more they favor McCain!

    McCain support Demographic:

    34% of 8-34
    38% of 35-49
    39% of 50-64
    42% of 65+

    McCain's support goes UP with age, just as it does in every other state!

    Here's Virginia:
    18-34: 38%
    35-49: 45%
    50-64: 48%
    65+: 49%

    Yet here we have the MN Poll:

    Obama Support:
    47% of 8-34 ( O: +4%)
    39% of 35-49 ( O: -16%)
    49% of 50-64 ( O: +5%)
    52% of 65+ ( O: +10%)

    Anybody who believes Obama is winning every demographic except 35-49 year olds and yet is losing the state, or that his support goes UP with age after 50+ is NUTS. That just flat goes against every other poll in every other state in the union.

    We KNOW McCain's support goes up in every poll with age! He's doing best with seniors everywhere. So, this has to be just a crappy poll. That's all.

    Since we have lots of other polls showing a bigger Obama lead, we know it's pure crap! They also said they didn't survey enough minorities because they couldn't get enough respondents. No doubt McCain is compe ive in Minnesota because of the convention and he's spent enough money there.

    If Obama wanted to win South Dakota, he probably could by spending enough money, but would it be a wise use of money? No, there are only 3 evs to be had.

    This outlier poll is probably a good thing, it will prompt Obama to spend a little more money to shore up his support there than neglect it or take it for granted.

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    Obama's been pretty close with seniors for awhile now. But anyway, the point is that you're viewing the poll too damn specifically. Everyone sees that to show that McCain is winning the state. What it actually shows is that McCain is in a statistical tie in MN with Barak. A lot of other polls have shown this exact same thing.

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    The internals of that poll are wacky. That poll is an outlier. Minnesota is not going red. They were the only state that resisted Reagan in 84. McCain has spent a lot of money to be compe ive in Minnesota. His money would've been better spent shoring up Florida.
    His VP pick would have been better spent on Tim Pawlenty. Picking an unvetted unknown from a 3 EC vote state was beyond stupid.

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    @ internals mattering now.

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    I couldn't find a link in the 538 thread, and this HAS to be an outlier, but HOLY ING :

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    McCain 46


    That must be my whole neighborhood. BTW just put up my Obama sign yesterday........

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    And how much do I think they mean?
    Enough to think Party ID weight is justified in recent polls.

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    @ internals mattering now.
    Internals always matter. I"ve asked you many times to point out the ones you think are flawed and you never do.

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    Enough to think Party ID weight is justified in recent polls.
    In which polls? You sure do make a lot of general statements full of bull . Thats your style, string one bland red herring up to another one. You are too lazy to pick apart the polls so you just make general statements and try to paint everything with a broad brush.

    Lazy ass whottt.

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    Well North Carolina I think is still going to go Red...that said, they do have a huge African American Population and I believe Wachovia or WaMu or something like that was based out of North Carolina...it's probably a legitimate problem area.

    That said...that is one of the most racist states in the Nation...it's going to be tough for Obama to pull out a win there.

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    State polls don't matter at all if Obama maintains a 5-7 point lead in the polls. If his lead dips below 4.5 points, then we can start worrying about state polls again. A good national tracking poll lifts state boats, so to speak.

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    That must be my whole neighborhood. BTW just put up my Obama sign yesterday........
    I work in far north SA, and drive through this neighborhood every day as a shortcut. This is North of Bitters. I've not seen one McCain yard sign on a mile or mile and a half drive, but probably 30-35 Obama signs.

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    His VP pick would have been better spent on Tim Pawlenty. Picking an unvetted unknown from a 3 EC vote state was beyond stupid.
    Yeah, if he needed a pro-life lady so bad, he should've taken Kay Bailey or Elizabeth Dole. They wouldn't have killed his experience argument against Obama either.

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    Internals always matter. I"ve asked you many times to point out the ones you think are flawed and you never do.
    Actually I've posted countless articles, including one that pointed out the flaws in the internals of Gallup, you then said that wasn't good enough.

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