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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    it's easy. simply reply "get off the race crap!!!"
    I predicted this replay in an email to Jekka the moment I made my post.

    But here's a question for you, Viva.

    Do you believe the African American male is viewed as a net positive or net negative figure in our society?

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    This not the United Christian States...but THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!! We are ALL Americans be us white, black, brown, yellow, red, republican, democrat, independent, green, Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Jewish, non-denomination, male or female. THAT is what America is all about and if we pull together we can accomplish great things and the time is now. YES WE CAN!!!!!

    now what you hear is not a test--i'm rappin to the beat
    and me, the groove, and my friends are gonna try to move your feet
    see i am wonder mike and i like to say o
    to the black, to the white, the red, and the brown, the purple and yellow

    but first i gotta bang bang the boogie to the boogie
    say up jump the boogie to the bang bang boogie
    let's rock, you dont stop
    rock the riddle that will make your body rock

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    She completely fails to realize that eliminating religion would likely eliminate a large portion of war, death and destruction this world sees.

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    I predicted this replay in an email to Jekka the moment I made my post.
    True story.

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    Obama realistically addressing the religious make-up of our diverse country bothers you?

    Well... to be honest, it bothers me a bit, too. He forgot Hindu.
    Don't forget the native american religions, b'nai b'rith, vodoo, various african religions, confucianism, daoism, a shinto or two, polynesian polytheism, wicca, sufi, gnosticism, mormons, and whatever else Christian sects that aren't considered real "Christians"...

    Just off the top of my head.

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    I'm not sure why you guys are trying to argue with her about the separation of church and state.
    Do lulz count?

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    Don't forget the native american religions, b'nai b'rith, vodoo, various african religions, confucianism, daoism, a shinto or two, polynesian polytheism, wicca, sufi, gnosticism, mormons, and whatever else Christian sects that aren't considered real "Christians"...

    Just off the top of my head.

    Don't forget Obamaism.

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    Don't forget Obamaism.
    You only wish you were the anti-christ. I've got your number.

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    Don't forget Obamaism.
    And CP3ism! :

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    Don't forget Obamaism.
    as it turns out, your avatar is all the proof angel needs.

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    One has to tip one's hat to Angel Luv for sticking with the thread.

    I don't agree with her, but she has been pretty gracious in the face of a lot of criticism.

    In that, she is probably a better person than I am.

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    http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...0.html?start=2

    "I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals."

    I'm not sure how much clearer that could be.


    Thank you for posting.

    A sincere question:
    Have you read anything in which Senator Obama states that he believes Jesus is the only way?
    I would personally like to know whether or not he and I have that belief in common.

    Also, the above comments were made to a Christian magazine... so how much of a testimony is that really. How does that alone suffice in attempting to makethe rest of the country aware of his faith in Christ, as many of our citizens do not read Christian literature or those who do ( like myself) still may have missed that particular article?

    Again, I have the same complaint about McCain. The only reason McCain is getting my vote is because he is pro-life.

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    The problem is that crazy people have been allowed to define what it means to be "Christian".

    Most good Christians don't know this, but kinda go along, because it is emotionally appealing groupthink..
    It seems that all believers in any system of religion, philosophy, or lifestyle tend to mold and contort the system to their minds in ways that put the unstoppable stamp of personality on it. One example: Rush Limbaugh, Al Sharpton, Mother Teresa, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kennedy, Leo Tolstoy, and Charles Darwin are all members of the same religion-- Christianity.

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    I'm not sure why you guys are trying to argue with her about the separation of church and state. She already said she'd vote for a religious person without hesitation. No matter what kind of leader they were or what policies they had, she'd vote for him/her. She wants a Theocracy.
    I'll put it this way. I feel far more comfortable that Angel Luv - whom you believe to be crazy - would be more open minded and civil in a discussion than you. What does that tell you?

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    I'm pro-life too.

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    She completely fails to realize that eliminating religion would likely eliminate a large portion of war, death and destruction this world sees.
    People would simply find another pretext for murder and mayhem.

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    the Flying Spagetti Monster, the Church of the Subgenius, the Force, whatever it is that the Klingons believe in...

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    Again, I have the same complaint about McCain. The only reason McCain is getting my vote is because he is pro-life.
    Is this a conclusion you've come to recently because this is not what you've been saying?

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    I'm pro-life too.
    Of course you are. In the small chance that more than one antiChrist could exist, its better to be safe than sorry, no?

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    I'll put it this way. I feel far more comfortable that Angel Luv - whom you believe to be crazy - would be more open minded and civil in a discussion than you. What does that tell you?
    It tells me you're a biased person who thinks someone with an african-american parent is racist.

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    People would simply find another pretext for murder and mayhem.
    Well I dispute the notion that we'd ever be able to remove religion from our lives. That would basically amount to have the answer to every possible question which is simply incomprehensible.

    However, in that regard I do believe if we ever did have the answer to every possible question there would be no war or general strife.

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    Thank you for posting.

    A sincere question:
    Have you read anything in which Senator Obama states that he believes Jesus is the only way?
    I would personally like to know whether or not he and I have that belief in common.

    Also, the above comments were made to a Christian magazine... so how much of a testimony is that really. How does that alone suffice in attempting to makethe rest of the country aware of his faith in Christ, as many of our citizens do not read Christian literature or those who do ( like myself) still may have missed that particular article?

    Again, I have the same complaint about McCain. The only reason McCain is getting my vote is because he is pro-life.
    OK, Ive tried my best to rationally engage in a discussion here, but there's nothing coming back that doesnt appear to be a cons utionally prohibited religious test for the Presidency.

    My prediction: Obama by a significant majority but not a landslide (375+ ECV). Senate moves more democratic but (hopefully) not a fillibuster-proof majority.

    House is always a tossup.

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    It tells me you're a biased person who thinks someone with an african-american parent is racist.
    No one ever claimed reading comprehension was your strong point so what can I say?

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    I still can't figure out why she thinks that this election should be about religious beliefs over the well being of her country.

    This is the fundamental problem here.

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    Well I dispute the notion that we'd ever be able to remove religion from our lives. That would basically amount to have the answer to every possible question which is simply incomprehensible.

    However, in that regard I do believe if we ever did have the answer to every possible question there would be no war or general strife.
    People don't attack you because their questions aren't answered. They attack you because you have something they want and they mean to take it from you.

    Whenever somebody figures out how to end selfishness and greed, war might end.

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