So I have a tough decision to make. It must be God week around here.

[BacktoBasics]

How does your brother in law act, does he have kids and how do they act?

To you and Stump. My brother in law thinks religion is a crutch. He's not an advocate for any of it. His wife however lives by the bible. Shockingly and I mean shockingly they've managed to have a good relationship for the last 6 or so years. She has no clue that he could careless about god or religion. He goes to church, plays guitar at their church functions and general plays by her rules. For him the sacrifice of living in a world he doesn't approve of is worth having her rather than losing her. He made that decision years back. When she's not around he drinks, smokes dope listens to rap/rock music and is a normal average dude. Pussy is a powerful drug.

I am planning on asking questions tonight when we get together for pool. I'll feel better after tonight I'm sure.

[BacktoBasics]

I go to a youth group thing on Wednesdays night for the sole fact they we play basketball after. Am I going to ?

No

basketball > potentially being brainwashed

He's 3 already? Holy sh*t, time flies.

At any rate, it already sounds like you've brainwashed your girl into thinking religion is poison. It'll take a lot more than one weekend with the Bible-thumpers to change that opinion.

He'll be three Dec. 14th.

[xtremesteven33]

I'm not trying to be offensive but that is one of the most idiotic things ever stated. Its our jobs as parents to teach our youth and educate them on as much as possible about whats really around us.

To assume that our kids will "seek info" is highly irresponsible especially in this day and age of en led slackers who flood the workforce with ty habits and even less brain work and common sense.

12 is way to old to just begin stuffing their minds with as much as possible. My son is 3 and we've already burned two bibles together.

I dont get you atheists. i seriously dont. If Christianity is false. Why do you hate it so much? If it is of no use and is fake, why do you guard your children from it as if they will suffer eternal damnation if they were to even hear the words spoken by Jesus?


Atheists are the most complicated people. Seriously. And by the way, You burning the Bible with your 3 year old son just shows how obsessive you are with a "false" religion that you claim is making people crazy.

U burned a Bible with your 3 year old son???? psycho

[dirk4mvp]

No

basketball > potentially being brainwashed

lol, brainwashed

I don't pay attention. I spend the entire hour talking to the females. What's he gonna do tell me to get out of god's house?

[JoeChalupa]

Brainwashing works both ways. You either brainwash them to think religion is ridiculous or that religion is helpful. We are brainwashed from birth into what our parents want us to be. Some kids are being brainwashed not to eat red meat, or to excercise, or to study, or to bathe...etc....

[BacktoBasics]

I dont get you atheists. i seriously dont. If Christianity is false. Why do you hate it so much? If it is of no use and is fake, why do you guard your children from it as if they will suffer eternal damnation if they were to even hear the words spoken by Jesus?


Atheists are the most complicated people. Seriously. And by the way, You burning the Bible with your 3 year old son just shows how obsessive you are with a "false" religion that you claim is making people crazy.

U burned a Bible with your 3 year old son???? psycho

I don't guard my children from it. She goes to church functions for christ sake. I just don't feel good about them isolating her for a weekend. I hate it because it distorts the truth and affects the ability to make good decisions by not just normal people but all people.

I don't believe in eternal damnation I just think Christianity isn't believable as a source of fact. Some of the very core beliefs and morals I have and instill in my kids aren't different or very different from Christian beliefs.

Don't kill
be good to others
don't steal

some fundamental is ok I just don't add the proverbial

or god will frown on you

or you're going to

or because god says so

I preach doing whats right because its right and you have the free will to be and act properly not becuase their is a fear of god behind it.

I'm even going to address your last line. What I burn with my son is my personal business.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It's only one weekend.

Let her watch R rated movies when she comes back.

Problem solved.

[JoeChalupa]

It's only one weekend.

Let her watch R rated movies when she comes back.

Problem solved.

Or a Bible burning.

[thispego]

dontlet her go, you dont want her buying in to that bull

[JoeChalupa]

Buyer beware!

[BacktoBasics]

Brainwashing works both ways. You either brainwash them to think religion is ridiculous or that religion is helpful. We are brainwashed from birth into what our parents want us to be. Some kids are being brainwashed not to eat red meat, or to excercise, or to study, or to bathe...etc....

I won't disagree.

I teach that in a moral capacity some aspects of religion are of great value but when the core belief in god is used as a weapon its fundamentally wrong and disasterous. Wanna read the bible no problem because I think the bible was written to tell stories, some based in truth and some based in fiction, but for the most part it was written to teach right from wrong on many many levels and there is good to be taken from it just like all fables and fairy tales.

I don't tell my kids to hate on god or hate all religion I do however tell them that for many people its the only thing they have that allows them to get up each day and function and without it they're lost because they've put all of themselves into it. The majority of people in this world are incapable of existing without purpose, they're incapable of being orderly and accountable unless there is something to actually hold them accountable. A higher power...a purpose a reason. They have to have a reason.

I tell my kids that they can be every bit as good a person and strong of a person by their own hand and mind without the help of anything or anyone else. Its already inside you and you don't need gods guidence to be a good, successful, responsible person.

[JoeChalupa]

I won't disagree.

I teach that in a moral capacity some aspects of religion are of great value but when the core belief in god is used as a weapon its fundamentally wrong and disasterous. Wanna read the bible no problem because I think the bible was written to tell stories, some based in truth and some based in fiction, but for the most part it was written to teach right from wrong on many many levels and there is good to be taken from it just like all fables and fairy tales.

I don't tell my kids to hate on god or hate all religion I do however tell them that for many people its the only thing they have that allows them to get up each day and function and without it they're lost because they've put all of themselves into it. The majority of people in this world are incapable of existing without purpose, they're incapable of being orderly and accountable unless there is something to actually hold them accountable. A higher power...a purpose a reason. They have to have a reason.

I tell my kids that they can be every bit as good a person and strong of a person by their own hand and mind without the help of anything or anyone else. Its already inside you and you don't need gods guidence to be a good, successful, responsible person.

I can understand that point of view I just happen to be one that does believe in the guidance of God's hand. I've had too many incidents in my life that for me anyway cannot just be described as just a "coincidental" event. But that is just me.

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

To assume that our kids will "seek info" is highly irresponsible especially in this day and age of en led slackers who flood the workforce with ty habits and even less brain work and common sense.

Hey! I was unschooled and I couldn't agree with it more. The entire foundation (and success) of unschooling is that children are innately curious. Children today have more information coming at them in a day than most of their parents did in a week. They are not slackers or lazy. Studies, in fact, indicate, they're just exhausted and over-stimulated.

Of course i have been playing on a web forum all day....

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

U burned a Bible with your 3 year old son???? psycho

I'd assume he was joking. B2B is too poor to afford two bibles.

[BacktoBasics]

Hey! I was unschooled and I couldn't agree with it more. The entire foundation (and success) of unschooling is that children are innately curious. Children today have more information coming at them in a day than most of their parents did in a week. They are not slackers or lazy. Studies, in fact, indicate, they're just exhausted and over-stimulated.

Of course i have been playing on a web forum all day....

Perhaps its more of a lack of ability to digest info not the actual quan y.

Not to mention the fact that everything is exhausting and over stimulating to a slacker.

[xtremesteven33]

I'd assume he was joking. B2B is too poor to afford two bibles.

No he said he did.....

so let me get this straight...

- U think the Bible has some truth to it
-U think alot of it is "made up" stories
-U burn the Bible
-U hate the Bible
-U hate Christianity
-U want your kids to be morally good apart from believeing all the words of the Bible
-U think all people who believe the words of the Bible are delusional
-U dont believe ALL the words of Jesus
-U admit the Bible carries good moral life standards
-Hence the Bible would make you a better person
- But you burn the Bible????



dude......

[IronMexican]

I'm like complete opposite of you're situation. I don't believe in none of that , but my family is all about god and that. I did my confirmation cause my dad paid me 5 bills though.

[BacktoBasics]

No he said he did.....

so let me get this straight...

- U think the Bible has some truth to it YES
-U think alot of it is "made up" stories YES
-U burn the Bible NO
-U hate the Bible NO
-U hate Christianity Tough answer I dislike organized religion and I don't believe in god
-U want your kids to be morally good apart from believeing all the words of the Bible Somewhat correct
-U think all people who believe the words of the Bible are delusional If you believe it to based in pure fact and that the bible should be taken word for word then yes
-U dont believe ALL the words of Jesus I don't know all the words but there is some stuff I completely disagree with
-U admit the Bible carries good moral life standards From what I know for the most part the basis is morally agreeable but not in its entirety
-Hence the Bible would make you a better person No not entirely depends on how the tool is used.
- But you burn the Bible???? lol



dude......

I HAVE NEVER BURNED A BIBLE I WASN'T SERIOUS.

[xtremesteven33]

I HAVE NEVER BURNED A BIBLE I WASN'T SERIOUS.

Well you got me all riled up there. I know someone who used to tear pages and write profanity all over his Bible so it wouldnt come off as a TOTAL suprise if you had done it. My apologies.

[BacktoBasics]

Well you got me all riled up there. I know someone who used to tear pages and write profanity all over his Bible so it wouldnt come off as a TOTAL suprise if you had done it. My apologies.

Apology accepted.

[baseline bum]

LOL@ an atheist giving a child an objective opinion on what “church and religion is all about”…

I guess you skipped the part about “salvation by grace through faith”….

Better than someone who tells a kid he's going to for not believing the fairy tales.

[xtremesteven33]

Better than someone who tells a kid he's going to for not believing the fairy tales.

[JoeChalupa]

Nothing like a good fairy tale to put my kid to sleep.

[CuckingFunt]

No he said he did.....

so let me get this straight...

- U think the Bible has some truth to it
-U think alot of it is "made up" stories
-U burn the Bible
-U hate the Bible
-U hate Christianity
-U want your kids to be morally good apart from believeing all the words of the Bible
-U think all people who believe the words of the Bible are delusional
-U dont believe ALL the words of Jesus
-U admit the Bible carries good moral life standards
-Hence the Bible would make you a better person
- But you burn the Bible????



dude......

I wonder if Jesus hate the unnecessary abbreviation of a 3-letter word as much as I do.

[xtremesteven33]

I wonder if Jesus hate the unnecessary abbreviation of a 3-letter word as much as I do.