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    funny, I voted for McCain/Palin because I think Obama is the Anti-Christ. He has this strong power over people even though nothing that he says makes any sense. Another red flag for me is the fact that his name is Muslim, but he says he's a Christian. He made Oprah cry after his rally like she just saw Jesus and did it with with nothing but his words.(now that's power!) Any red flags going off for anyone else here?
    Yep. Big red flag. Starts with the letters d-a-v.

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    Obama's speech at the Dem convention looked like a Nazi rally. People were crying hoping for a glimpse at the new Messiah. People were mesmerized. Obama could've told them to do anything he wanted and they would follow. Just like Jim Jones.....drink the Kool-Aid. I am your master.

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    Maybe they are trying to catch up to Joe the Senator...


    Biden routes campaign cash to family, their firms
    Discloses $2 million in business arrangements
    Jim McElhatton (Contact)
    Wednesday, October 15, 2008


    Democratic vice-presidential candidate Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. has paid more than $2 million in campaign cash to his family members, their businesses and employers over the years, a practice that watchdogs criticize as rife with potential conflicts of interest.

    Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.'s son, Hunter Biden, was at a campaign stop with his father in December. The candidate's sister, Valerie Biden Owens, is his longtime campaign manager.

    The money largely flowed from the coffers of Mr. Biden's failed presidential campaign during the past two years to a company that employs his sister and longtime campaign manager, Valerie Biden Owens, according to campaign disclosure filings.

    The senator from Delaware also directed campaign legal work to a Washington lobbying and law firm founded by his son R. Hunter Biden, the disclosures show.

    Putting family members and their companies on the political payroll is legal if the work is legitimate and charged at market rates, according to the Federal Election Commission. Still, public watchdog groups have long criticized such arrangements.

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    Yep. Big red flag. Starts with the letters d-a-v.
    Disabled American Veterans?

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    You gotta admit though.....she looks good.

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    Maybe they are trying to catch up to Joe the Senator...
    Biden was making payroll and writing expense checks for people that work for a living that just happen to be related to him; Palin was getting designer labels while claiming to be an average gal.

    [insert Latin term for illogical fallacy here]

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    Just want to point out, that Miss Hockey mom just spent 3 years of Joe the Plumbers wages on clothes.

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    You people's obsession with this woman is laughable.

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    You people's obsession with this woman is laughable.

    Yeah, she is only running for VP of the United States, who really cares, right?

    I mean her running mate is only a 72 year old 3 time cancer survivor.....what is the point?

    Oh yeah, it IS important to this country...that is the point.

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    Yeah, she is only running for VP of the United States, who really cares, right?

    I mean her running mate is only a 72 year old 3 time cancer survivor.....what is the point?

    Oh yeah, it IS important to this country...that is the point.

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    What she spends on clothes is important to this country, but Obama's association with a former terrorist or his association with ACORN is not?

    C'mon...it wasn't taxpayer money, and the only people who have a right to be pissed are those who donated, which I'm gonna guess you're not part of.

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    What she spends on clothes is important to this country, but Obama's association with a former terrorist or his association with ACORN is not?

    C'mon...it wasn't taxpayer money, and the only people who have a right to be pissed are those who donated, which I'm gonna guess you're not part of.
    Here we go... You are one of the few that still buy the Bill Ayers crap.

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    Here we go... You are one of the few that still buy the Bill Ayers crap.
    It's not about whether I buy it or not. If these associations (troublesome or not) do not warrant discussion, then why does Sarah Palin's wardrobe?

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    It's not about whether I buy it or not. If these associations (troublesome or not) do not warrant discussion, then why does Sarah Palin's wardrobe?
    Are you serious? Obama was on a school baord with Ayers.......A SCHOOL BOARD !!!!!

    I find the lack of education about this matter appalling...people swallow things hook line and sinker without actually doing the research.

    As soon as I heard about Ayers, of course I was concerned, until I ACTUALLY LOOKED IT UP....instead of spouting an ignorant party line.

    Do yourself a favor, RESEARCH before you post.

    As for Palin's clothing......it tells the public that Ms. Hockey mom who shops at Walmart is a lying sack of crap....that they are proping her up and that she is not what she claims to be.

    Unless she is claiming she is a tax cheat, who charges her kids travel and expenses back to the Alaskan people....

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    Are you serious? Obama was on a school baord with Ayers.......A SCHOOL BOARD !!!!!

    I find the lack of education about this matter appalling...people swallow things hook line and sinker without actually doing the research.

    As soon as I heard about Ayers, of course I was concerned, until I ACTUALLY LOOKED IT UP....instead of spouting an ignorant party line.

    Do yourself a favor, RESEARCH before you post.

    DD
    Do you self a favor, and read before you respond. I'm not here trying to argue any issues relating to Ayers and Obama. This is a thread about Sarah Palin's wardrobe. Seriously...Palin's wardrobe. I mentioned Ayers because as easily as you dismissed and moved on from that, is as easily as you should dismiss and move on from things like Sarah Palin's wardrobe.

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    You people's obsession with this woman is laughable.
    STFU!!,
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    Do you self a favor, and read before you respond. I'm not here trying to argue any issues relating to Ayers and Obama. This is a thread about Sarah Palin's wardrobe. Seriously...Palin's wardrobe. I mentioned Ayers because as easily as you dismissed and moved on from that, is as easily as you should dismiss and move on from things like Sarah Palin's wardrobe.
    Yeah, whatever, you tried to equate it to Ayers pal.........now that your straw man has been blown through the back of your noggin you are trying to say...but..but..but.....I didn't really mean it.....I was...uh..uh......the VP's job is to preside over the Senate......



    Ok, here is why Palin's wardrobe is an issue, because she PRETENDS to be a woman of the people....meanwhile the RNC spends 150k on her wardrobe ....to prop her up as Caribou Barbie.....

    This is an issue because people think she relates to them, when in reality, not very many of THEM are going to spend 150k on a wardrobe.....

    It shows the hypocrisy of Palin.....she was picked to cater to the Evangelical crowd...it worked.

    Thank GOD the rest of the country can see through that charade and that she is about the worst thing that could happen to this country if she were to come in power.

    We are done with the "Drink a beer with them" Presidents.....we need intelligent thoughtful people in that spot to make the right decisions.

    Otherwise...Joe SixPack will continue to run this country into the ground, because well....frankly....Joe Six pack is stupid.

    DD

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    Yeah, whatever, you tried to equate it to Ayers pal.........now that your straw man has been blown through the back of your noggin you are trying to say...but..but..but.....I didn't really mean it.....I was...uh..uh......the VP's job is to preside over the Senate......

    If that's what you comprehended from what you read, then I guess I there's not much else I can say to you about it.

    Ok, here is why Palin's wardrobe is an issue, because she PRETENDS to be a woman of the people....meanwhile the RNC spends 150k on her wardrobe ....to prop her up as Caribou Barbie.....

    This is an issue because people think she relates to them, when in reality, not very many of THEM are going to spend 150k on a wardrobe.....

    It shows the hypocrisy of Palin.....she was picked to cater to the Evangelical crowd...it worked.

    Thank GOD the rest of the country can see through that charade and that she is about the worst thing that could happen to this country if she were to come in power.

    We are done with the "Drink a beer with them" Presidents.....we need intelligent thoughtful people in that spot to make the right decisions.

    Otherwise...Joe SixPack will continue to run this country into the ground, because well....frankly....Joe Six pack is stupid.

    DD
    So, really it's only Palin who lives extravagantly (even though it wasn't her money that was spent) while pretending to be one of us? C'mon...let's talk about what EVERY candidate makes/has in the bank/spends and see if they relate to real people with real issues also. They don't. I know the McCains and Palins are loaded...but so is Biden, so is Obama. But...since this is PALIN, you're gonna jump all over it and ride it to the ground.

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    Palin brought this upon herself with her "hockey mom" and "joe six-pack" comparisons. She'll learn though...she'll learn.

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    So, really it's only Palin who lives extravagantly (even though it wasn't her money that was spent) while pretending to be one of us? C'mon...let's talk about what EVERY candidate makes/has in the bank/spends and see if they relate to real people with real issues also. They don't. I know the McCains and Palins are loaded...but so is Biden, so is Obama. But...since this is PALIN, you're gonna jump all over it and ride it to the ground.
    None of the other candidates are saying they are just like the majority of Americans....with the exception of Biden, who actually IS more like the majority of Americans than the Palins...ie...makes less money.

    Palin is a farce....and she is being exposed as a farce......she wanted to be at the $1000 table, well....you can't whine when you sit down and get your money taken......

    She is a joke as a candidate and America knows it......

    She is possibly the worst VP candidate in the history of this country......way worse than even Quayle......

    It is not that she is stupid.....she isn't, but she is ignorant of the issues, and at a time when this country needs someone that can actually help...she is vastly underqualified, and her unwillingness to blink is flat out scary....

    We need someone that is willing to BLINK and THINK......

    DD

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    If that's what you comprehended from what you read, then I guess I there's not much else I can say to you about it.



    So, really it's only Palin who lives extravagantly (even though it wasn't her money that was spent) while pretending to be one of us? C'mon...let's talk about what EVERY candidate makes/has in the bank/spends and see if they relate to real people with real issues also. They don't. I know the McCains and Palins are loaded...but so is Biden, so is Obama. But...since this is PALIN, you're gonna jump all over it and ride it to the ground.
    If you can't comprehend the hypocrisy of the RNC and their two candidates then you really shouldn't post in this thread.

    If Palin and McCain and even the RNC didn't run around saying they are anti-elitist and anti-intellectual regular joe 6-pack folk nobody would care.

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    None of the other candidates are saying they are just like the majority of Americans....with the exception of Biden, who actually IS more like the majority of Americans than the Palins...ie...makes less money.

    Palin is a farce....and she is being exposed as a farce......she wanted to be at the $1000 table, well....you can't whine when you sit down and get your money taken......

    She is a joke as a candidate and America knows it......

    She is possibly the worst VP candidate in the history of this country......way worse than even Quayle......

    It is not that she is stupid.....she isn't, but she is ignorant of the issues, and at a time when this country needs someone that can actually help...she is vastly underqualified, and her unwillingness to blink is flat out scary....

    We need someone that is willing to BLINK and THINK......

    DD
    Biden is more like me, considering he gives about $370 to charity each year.

    As far as income is concerned, the Bidens reported about $320000 last year, while the Palins reported $170000.

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    I'm actually more like joe the plumber.

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    I'm actually more like joe the plumber.
    Or Joe the Chalupa.

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    Well...ya know...when most of your wardrobe is all bloodied from gutting you killed, you need a few bucks for new clothes so you can look pretty babbling about mindless crap on TV for the lower 48.

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    I wish I had a clothing allowance like that. All I have is a $500 limit at Old Navy.

    She's ridiculous.

    Carry on....

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