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    Yes another s bag Obama supporter...

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    Yes another s bag Obama supporter...
    LOL, well said you partisan hack!

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    How do we know that the effigy is not of Tina Fey?

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    One of the FOX and Friends re s actually thought this could be a hate crime.

    It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.
    Last edited by Buddy Holly; 10-28-2008 at 07:47 AM.

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    One of the FOX and Friends re actually thought this could be a hate crime.

    It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.
    Colbert had a great joke about them last week. He was going off on how we couldn't let cartoon characters vote because they'd surely be democrats. His solution was to drop anvils on people's heads. If a bump began to protrude from their head, they were a cartoon character and we shouldn't let them vote. If their skull was crushed then they can vote, or host FOX and Friends. It was a segment of The Word so the punchline was typed and put on screen. It was hilarious...and accurate.

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    What would the news be if it was Obama being hung?
    Just as much news as it would be someone guessing you weren't going to make this post.

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    One of the FOX and Friends re s actually thought this could be a hate crime.

    It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.
    If it would be a hate crime to depict a black man hung in effigy (and there's reason to think it might), I'm not sure why it wouldn't be a hate crime to depict a white woman hung in effigy. I'd generally agree that it's not a hate crime in either situation, but it can't be a hate crime in one scenario and not a hate crime in the other.

    It's ridiculous in either situation and should be tolerable in no situation.

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    If it would be a hate crime to depict a black man hung in effigy (and there's reason to think it might), I'm not sure why it wouldn't be a hate crime to depict a white woman hung in effigy. I'd generally agree that it's not a hate crime in either situation, but it can't be a hate crime in one scenario and not a hate crime in the other.

    It's ridiculous in either situation and should be tolerable in no situation.
    Honest legal question...

    If hanging something in effigy (whether black, white, woman, man, jew, christian, etc) is a hate crime, why arent the public rallies of Nazis and KKK?

    I mean, an effigy just sits there while these people have bullhorns and an at ude, actively preaching death and destruction to other humans in plain sight, down Main streets (hating that phrase lately).

    What is the difference? Why is a silent effigy a hate crime, but actively and vocally spreading hate not a hate crime?

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    If it would be a hate crime to depict a black man hung in effigy (and there's reason to think it might), I'm not sure why it wouldn't be a hate crime to depict a white woman hung in effigy. I'd generally agree that it's not a hate crime in either situation, but it can't be a hate crime in one scenario and not a hate crime in the other.

    It's ridiculous in either situation and should be tolerable in no situation.
    Which is exactly why hate crime legislation is ridiculous. Its a legislature's dream invention. Make something illegal that already was illegal and run as being tough on crime.

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    Those F&F anchors are ing dumb. Especially the blonde dude . . .

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    Those F&F anchors are ing dumb. Especially the blonde dude . . .
    Steve Doocy aka The Deuce!!! He wrote a book about being a Father. I wonder how many times he himself has stuck things into the electrical outlet.

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    How do we know that the effigy is not of Tina Fey?
    Brilliant!

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    A few things:

    (1) this is not a hate crime; whether or not you agree with enhacing punishment for violent crimes that are inspired by racial hatred, it's clear that this is not in that category

    (2) this is tasteless and cruel, but it begs the issue of double standards; if this were Obama hanging in effigy, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be agitating and CNN would be doing a ten-part series on racism in America

    (3) the hatred for Palin--on the left and the right--is puzzling to me; I don't like her, but I'm honest enough to admit that I'm embarrassed to have a VP who sounds like she's from Fargo--in other words, I want my president and my VP to look and sound a certain way, and I know it's a stupid thing to care about; but the hatred for her, and the doubt as to her qualifications, is like nothing I've ever seen (BTW, Obama ain't much more qualified, and Biden says absurdly idiotic things every day)

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    (2) this is tasteless and cruel, but it begs the issue of double standards; if this were Obama hanging in effigy, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be agitating and CNN would be doing a ten-part series on racism in America
    Do people not read the threads they post in?

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    The guy who hung an Obama ghost effigy from his tree is being tried for a hate crime? link?

    Didn't watch the Boob-tube link, but I doubt anything will happen. Now if a noose was used instead of fishing line just to string the figure, then yes. There would be a 'hate crime' trial.

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    Do people not read the threads they post in?
    I did read it, and no, I don't see CNN doing a ten part series anytime soon in response to this.

    What's your point?

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    Does your brain ever get gross and stinky with all the that comes out of it?
    damn there are some real re s on this forum

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    I did read it, and no, I don't see CNN doing a ten part series anytime soon in response to this.

    What's your point?
    By "this" I take it you mean the Sarah Palin effigy hanging.

    There have been a couple posts in this thread about effigies of Obama hanging by nooses...I have yet to see any national news media go off the deep end calling for those responsible to be prosecuted for anything.

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    I don't think this is a hate crime, it's just an act of hate. So long as it's on private property I agree that it's protected by free speech (and I would continue to uphold that same belief if it were Obama-related).
    Should there be a difference?

    Let's see. Jena six. Nooses hung that were actually lasso's.... Hate crime.

    Anywhere... Noose hung with nothing inside... Hate crime...

    Noose with a depiction of a white person... Free speech...

    Noose with a depiction of a black person... Hate crime...

    ing hypocrites! Losers. Anti-first amendment. You can all go yourselves.

    Either treat this situation of a Palin hanging with very bit of intensity you would if it were a black person, or go yourself.

    Want equal rights, then demand equal justice.

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    Didn't watch the Boob-tube link, but I doubt anything will happen. Now if a noose was used instead of fishing line just to string the figure, then yes. There would be a 'hate crime' trial.
    How do you know it's fishing line if you didn't watch it?

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    One of the FOX and Friends re s actually thought this could be a hate crime.

    It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.
    So, you're a racist?

    You think blacks deserve protection from hate speech that whites don't?

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    Let's see. Jena six. Nooses hung that were actually lasso's.... Hate crime.
    What? When? How? What are you smoking?

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    Who hangs lassos from trees?

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    How do you know it's fishing line if you didn't watch it?
    I missed "ghost" and assumed it was the George Fox incident, that's why I said fishing line. Looks like I may be wrong on this one.

    Clarification. I am speaking of the incident at Geroge Fox College in Newberg Oregon.

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    Who hangs lassos from trees?
    Remember the Jena Six incident? They hung lasso's after game victories. The time before the supposible one that sparked the beating, the Rodeo team hung a dipiction of a rivals mascot in one, after they won. A Mavrick if I remember right. It was simply a normal thing, but when the media got hold of the story, the lasso's became nooses.

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